johnnypd Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 i dare say liverpool can count themselves lucky to only lose him for 8 games based on that. scummy club trying to argue the toss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 In the course of the argument, Mr Suarez also pinched Mr Evra's skin (which was not in itself insulting behaviour nor did it refer to Mr Evra's colour) and put his hand on the back of his head, which were part of Mr Suarez's attempts to wind up Mr Evra (paragraphs 346 to 384 above). Petty cunt Liverpool, Dalglish etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Actually had Liverpool fans say there's no issue with calling Krul a Dutch cunt. How can one club be blessed with so many idiots? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Mr Evra and Mr Suarez spoke to each other in Spanish. Mr Evra asked Mr Suarez why he had kicked him, referring to the foul five minutes previously. Mr Suarez replied "Porque tu eres negro", meaning "Because you are black". Mr Evra then said to Mr Suarez “say it to me again, I’m going to punch you”. Mr Suarez replied "No hablo con los negros", meaning "I don't speak to blacks". Mr Evra continued by saying that he now thought he was going to punch Mr Suarez. Mr Suarez replied "Dale, negro, negro, negro", which meant "okay, blackie, blackie, blackie". As Mr Suarez said this, he reached out to touch Mr Evra's arm, gesturing at his skin. Mr Kuyt then intervened. When the referee blew his whistle and called the players over to him shortly after the exchanges in the goalmouth, Mr Evra said to the referee "ref, ref, he just called me a fucking black". He sounds like a racist to me, LFC fans. Sounds like a right cunt. Deserves more than 8 for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 "It is further alleged that your breach of Rule E3(1) included a reference to the ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race of Mr Patrice Evra within the meaning of Rule E3(2)." Someone should report their Welsh forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 They're still defending him like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Mr Dalglish said, "hasn't he done this before?". This was the evidence to us of Mr Dowd, which was also accepted by Mr Suarez. Mr Dowd remembered this as it caused him to consciously stop and think whether he was aware of any previous allegation involving Mr Evra. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphrodite Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Evra's version of events: The FA's case, in short, was as follows. In the goalmouth, Mr Evra and Mr Suarez spoke to each other in Spanish. Mr Evra asked Mr Suarez why he had kicked him, referring to the foul five minutes previously. Mr Suarez replied "Porque tu eres negro", meaning "Because you are black". Mr Evra then said to Mr Suarez “say it to me again, I’m going to punch you”. Mr Suarez replied "No hablo con los negros", meaning "I don't speak to blacks". Mr Evra continued by saying that he now thought he was going to punch Mr Suarez. Mr Suarez replied "Dale, negro, negro, negro", which meant "okay, blackie, blackie, blackie". As Mr Suarez said this, he reached out to touch Mr Evra's arm, gesturing at his skin. Mr Kuyt then intervened. When the referee blew his whistle and called the players over to him shortly after the exchanges in the goalmouth, Mr Evra said to the referee "ref, ref, he just called me a fucking black". Suarez's version: Mr Suarez denied the Charge. His case, in short, was as follows. He agreed with Mr Evra that they spoke to each other in Spanish in the goalmouth. When Mr Evra asked why he had kicked him, Mr Suarez replied that it was a normal foul and shrugged his shoulders. Mr Evra then said that he was going to kick Mr Suarez, to which Mr Suarez told him to shut up. As Mr Kuyt was approaching, Mr Suarez touched Mr Evra's left arm in a pinching style movement. According to Mr Suarez, at no point in the goalmouth did he use the word "negro". When the referee blew his whistle to stop play, Mr Evra spoke to Mr Suarez and said (in English) "Don't touch me, South American". Mr Suarez replied "Por que, negro?". He says that he used the word “negro” in a way with which he was familiar from his upbringing in Uruguay. Someone's lying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 How these cunts will have the gall to appeal I'll never know! (assuming they do). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Mr Dalglish said, "hasn't he done this before?". This was the evidence to us of Mr Dowd, which was also accepted by Mr Suarez. Mr Dowd remembered this as it caused him to consciously stop and think whether he was aware of any previous allegation involving Mr Evra. how does he get away with this shit? ku klux kenny deserves a ban of his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Number 9 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Mr Dalglish said, "hasn't he done this before?". This was the evidence to us of Mr Dowd, which was also accepted by Mr Suarez. Mr Dowd remembered this as it caused him to consciously stop and think whether he was aware of any previous allegation involving Mr Evra. The most important thing here is; how the hell did they actually manage to figure out what Daglish was saying? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Mr Evra stated that the goalmouth incident started when he addressed Mr Suarez, beginning with the phrase "Concha de tu hermana". According to the experts, the literal translation is "your sister's cunt" and it can be taken as a general swear word expressing anger, although the word "concha" is not as taboo as the English word "cunt". It is thus equivalent to "fucking hell" or "fuck me". If directed at someone in particular, it can also be understood as "[you] son of a bitch". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 "por que,negro?" sounds racist as fuck tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Despicable football club. I'm ashamed to even have our club associated with a cunt like Dalglish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I hated Suarez before all this, hate him more now. Hope this ban gets upheld even if Liverpool campaign for a New Years honour for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Mr Evra stated that the goalmouth incident started when he addressed Mr Suarez, beginning with the phrase "Concha de tu hermana". According to the experts, the literal translation is "your sister's cunt" and it can be taken as a general swear word expressing anger, although the word "concha" is not as taboo as the English word "cunt". It is thus equivalent to "fucking hell" or "fuck me". If directed at someone in particular, it can also be understood as "[you] son of a bitch". reminds me of HTT's "the phrase 'my n*gger', as popularised by denzel washington" hilarity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I am going to have so much fun on twitter (as soon as it's back up) with this juicy evidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 However, Mr Suarez was not as impressive a witness as Mr Evra. His answers were not always clear or directly addressed to the question. We give one example in paragraph 246 below. Whether this was due to language difficulties or evasiveness was not entirely clear and so, whenever we could, we gave Mr Suarez the benefit of the doubt. We were certainly more concerned by the substance of his evidence (as explained below) than by the manner in which he gave it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Liverpool have appealed it haven't they ? Surely it should be upheld and increased by half for a frivolous appeal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Mr Suarez's claim to be acting in a conciliatory and friendly way 253. Mr Suarez claimed that when he used the word "negro" in speaking to Mr Evra, he was doing so in a conciliatory and friendly way. Good luck with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Despicable football club. I'm ashamed to even have our club associated with a c*** like Dalglish. I've slagged Dalglish off before on here and had people moaning about it ffs the bloke's a knob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Roy Suarez Brown Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 However, Mr Suarez was not as impressive a witness as Mr Evra. His answers were not always clear or directly addressed to the question. We give one example in paragraph 246 below. Whether this was due to language difficulties or evasiveness was not entirely clear and so, whenever we could, we gave Mr Suarez the benefit of the doubt. We were certainly more concerned by the substance of his evidence (as explained below) than by the manner in which he gave it. Not clear answers is harsh on Suarez, must be hard to articulate anything with those teeth in the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphrodite Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Evra told us that he began the conversation by saying "Concha de tu hermana". Mr Evra's evidence was that this is a phrase used in Spanish like when you say "fucking hell" in 27 English, but the literal translation is "your sister's pussy" What?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Despicable football club. I'm ashamed to even have our club associated with a c*** like Dalglish. I've slagged Dalglish off before on here and had people moaning about it ffs the bloke's a knob i know he had difficulties with injuries and money but overall his reign saw us go from one of the 2 or 3 most exciting sides the premiership has ever seen to a dour mid-table team lacking any inspiration or verve staffed by has-beens and never-will-bes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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