madras Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 The club should aiming to win every match and therefore the title. I don't care about financial position and all of that. The players should be going into matches with the idea that they are going to win and that winning is what is required of them. Going into the season aiming for less than the title is conceding that you will not win matches and no competitor should do this. There is a difference between what you aim for and what can be expected of you. it's ok to go out to win every game, but you know deep down it wont happen.....however i'd be very surprised if any of man utd, citeh, liverpool, everton, spurs,villa,chelsea or arsenal went down. after that mind, between the other 12 teams theres not a great deal in it and theres every chance one or two at least could finish above everton and villa. someone could finish 6th or 7th this season without being particularly great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elbee909 Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 "aiming for the title " in most league years that would be silly comment, but this league is mental. It feels more wide open this year, everyon is beating everyone else. IF we are 5th or higher by dec 1st, then we should go for it....given couple of quality additions in jan. Weren't you saying we shouldn't be going mental about Mr. Average Hughton until we beat a top 4 side? And now we have, that's it, is it? Nuts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 I can see Ben Arfa's future being not dissimilar to his past - a floating position within the team, put where he's needed when he's needed (replacing any one of Jonas (when more quality's needed), Ameobi (obvious enough), Barton (when more attacking directness is required) or Nolan (guy needs a rest, sometimes...)) and withdrawn when he sometimes isn't. Not sure how he'll like that... But if he's maturing, which is plausible, his overall qualities might improve and negate the others' advantages meaning he can play more (tracking back, consistency etc.), and/or he might buy into our musketeer routine and appreciate the team's success and what role he has in it, so it could work out. The club needed a striker and a winger and we got Ben Arfa. It was a smart move because Hughton didn't have the cash to bring in two players. In the little we saw of him, he loves to cut inside and I think he'd have more success there, playing off Carroll as a second striker. He can drift out wide and get crosses in or go through the middle, and has the pace to beat defenders to Carroll's flick ons and the shooting to stand back and win knock downs and have a shot. I think he'll be a good partner for Carroll and given the lack of talented forwards I think this was a big reason he was signed. It'll be a while before we find out though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 When is he expected to play again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 When is he expected to play again? Anyobdy know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Next week. Not like you to stoop low Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Sorry. Let's put it this way, I doubt things have changed much since the original estimates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Next week. He texted me earlier asking if i was up for a pro evo sesh on monday night, if that counts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 I miss him badly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 If he'd not done it against City, he'd have broken his leg tonight. Dirty fuckers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 He's the bit of flair you need to unlock teams like Blackburn who sit back and absorb pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Somebody mentioned needing a Plan B. Well, this is our Plan B. We just need to keep things ticking until he returns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkzter Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Sooner we get this lad back on the pitch the more chance we will have of breaking down anti football teams. We seem to be unable to produce anything other than long balls up to the strikers when teams like Blackburn etc visit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 The Satan De Jong not selected again for Netherland's match against Turkey, apparently because he has not shown remorse over his style of play. Bravo Van Marwijk Nigel de Jong has been left out of the Holland squad as punishment for not showing contrition for the challenge that left Newcastle's Hatem Ben Arfa with a double break to his leg. De Jong's refusal to accept he was to blame for Ben Arfa's injury, or that he needs to alter his style, has led to Bert van Marwijk, the Holland manager, announcing that the midfielder will play no part in their game against Turkey on 17 November. Van Marwijk dropped De Jong from the European Championship qualifiers against Sweden and Moldova last month because he felt the Manchester City player had committed a "wild and unnecessary offence" during the 2-1 defeat of Newcastle United. He spoke at the time of De Jong playing with a combative style where he "needlessly looks to push the limit" and he had hoped that the player would express regret when they next talked and, specifically, agree that he needs to curb his combative instincts. Instead De Jong told Van Marwijk during a meeting in Manchester yesterday that he feels he has been unfairly treated and has considered whether he could play for the team again under the current management. His belief is that Van Marwijk has used him to help deflect the criticism that was directed at the Dutch management for the team's abrasive style of play in the World Cup. Newcastle registered an official complaint with the Football Association over De Jong's challenge on Ben Arfa, but the midfielder believes it was wrong for the Dutch to take action against something that happened while he was playing for his club in England. His club have vigorously supported him in the face of vehement criticism, which the City manager, Roberto Mancini, believes has affected the player's form. De Jong's critics have cited the fact he broke the leg of the Bolton Wanderers midfielder Stuart Holden during a friendly international this year against the USA and was culpable of the now-infamous challenge in the World Cup final that saw him plant his studs into the chest of the Spanish player Xabi Alonso. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Fair play. Good manager, sticks to his guns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcmichael Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 The Satan De Jong not selected again for Netherland's match against Turkey, apparently because he has not shown remorse over his style of play. Bravo Van Marwijk Nigel de Jong has been left out of the Holland squad as punishment for not showing contrition for the challenge that left Newcastle's Hatem Ben Arfa with a double break to his leg. De Jong's refusal to accept he was to blame for Ben Arfa's injury, or that he needs to alter his style, has led to Bert van Marwijk, the Holland manager, announcing that the midfielder will play no part in their game against Turkey on 17 November. Van Marwijk dropped De Jong from the European Championship qualifiers against Sweden and Moldova last month because he felt the Manchester City player had committed a "wild and unnecessary offence" during the 2-1 defeat of Newcastle United. He spoke at the time of De Jong playing with a combative style where he "needlessly looks to push the limit" and he had hoped that the player would express regret when they next talked and, specifically, agree that he needs to curb his combative instincts. Instead De Jong told Van Marwijk during a meeting in Manchester yesterday that he feels he has been unfairly treated and has considered whether he could play for the team again under the current management. His belief is that Van Marwijk has used him to help deflect the criticism that was directed at the Dutch management for the team's abrasive style of play in the World Cup. Newcastle registered an official complaint with the Football Association over De Jong's challenge on Ben Arfa, but the midfielder believes it was wrong for the Dutch to take action against something that happened while he was playing for his club in England. His club have vigorously supported him in the face of vehement criticism, which the City manager, Roberto Mancini, believes has affected the player's form. De Jong's critics have cited the fact he broke the leg of the Bolton Wanderers midfielder Stuart Holden during a friendly international this year against the USA and was culpable of the now-infamous challenge in the World Cup final that saw him plant his studs into the chest of the Spanish player Xabi Alonso. He said a few weeks ago that de Jong wouldn't be in the NT before 2011... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Pointless thing to do IMO. He'll eventually let De Jong back in. He knows it and De Jong knows it, and so it won't make him 'change' at all. Hell, it's not even really a punishment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 The Satan De Jong not selected again for Netherland's match against Turkey, apparently because he has not shown remorse over his style of play. Bravo Van Marwijk Nigel de Jong has been left out of the Holland squad as punishment for not showing contrition for the challenge that left Newcastle's Hatem Ben Arfa with a double break to his leg. De Jong's refusal to accept he was to blame for Ben Arfa's injury, or that he needs to alter his style, has led to Bert van Marwijk, the Holland manager, announcing that the midfielder will play no part in their game against Turkey on 17 November. Van Marwijk dropped De Jong from the European Championship qualifiers against Sweden and Moldova last month because he felt the Manchester City player had committed a "wild and unnecessary offence" during the 2-1 defeat of Newcastle United. He spoke at the time of De Jong playing with a combative style where he "needlessly looks to push the limit" and he had hoped that the player would express regret when they next talked and, specifically, agree that he needs to curb his combative instincts. Instead De Jong told Van Marwijk during a meeting in Manchester yesterday that he feels he has been unfairly treated and has considered whether he could play for the team again under the current management. His belief is that Van Marwijk has used him to help deflect the criticism that was directed at the Dutch management for the team's abrasive style of play in the World Cup. Newcastle registered an official complaint with the Football Association over De Jong's challenge on Ben Arfa, but the midfielder believes it was wrong for the Dutch to take action against something that happened while he was playing for his club in England. His club have vigorously supported him in the face of vehement criticism, which the City manager, Roberto Mancini, believes has affected the player's form. De Jong's critics have cited the fact he broke the leg of the Bolton Wanderers midfielder Stuart Holden during a friendly international this year against the USA and was culpable of the now-infamous challenge in the World Cup final that saw him plant his studs into the chest of the Spanish player Xabi Alonso. fair play to him for the name change tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Pointless thing to do IMO. He'll eventually let De Jong back in. He knows it and De Jong knows it, and so it won't make him 'change' at all. Hell, it's not even really a punishment. No point in red cards/suspensions either? Anything that highlights what a cunt De Jong is, is a good thing IMO. At the very least its embarrassing for him to be continually left out by his own manager for something that I'm sure he'd rather people forgot. At best it lets the player know that if he does it again next time he might not get back in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Van Marwijk wants the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 When is he expected to play again? Probs April. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Really missing him. He is exactly the kind of player we needed to score today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGSC Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Stop bumping this thread, it makes me depressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 The roller-coaster of title changes that is the Ben Arfa thread, started on the 28th July with… Re: Marseille sporting director claims NUFC interested in Ben Arfa Re: French media: First offer for Ben Arfa rejected Re: Various sources - Ben Arfa to sign for NUFC on loan? Re: The Hatem Ben Arfa Thread - no, nothing has happened. Re: Ben Arfa to sign in the next week - Marseille chairman on TV Re: Ben Arfa to sign next week? Marseille president on TV suggests so... Re: Reports: €800k loan fee agreed with Marseille for Ben Arfa, talks ongoing Re: Marseille: nothing yet agreed with regards to deal for Ben Arfa Re: Marseille: nothing yet agreed with regards to deal for Ben Arfa Re: Hughton: no contact made with Marseille regarding Ben Arfa Re: Journal: NUFC talks with representatives of Ben Arfa to take place today Re: French media: Ben Arfa walks out of l'OM training, wants to join NUFC... Re: OM President - Offer for Ben Arfa is too low, 'Player is staying at Marseille' Re: French media - Ben Arfa fails to attend training at Marseille. Re: Ben Arfa's advisor: "Hatem will go to Newcastle" Re: Ben Arfa's advisor: "Hatem will go to Newcastle" - First Page Updated Re: Ben Arfa allegedly photographed at Newcastle airport!!!!11 Re: Ben Arfa arrives in Newcastle but NUFC refuse to talk to him without permission! Re: The Curious Case of Benjamin Arfa Re: The Curious Case of Benjamin Arfa - interview in Sunday's L'Equipe... Re: The Curious Case of Benjamin Arfa - "I want to join Newcastle" Re: French media: Marseille set to accept €8m bid from Werder Bremen for Ben Arfa Re: The Ben Arfa Farce: Contains Lots of "Nobody Knows What's Happening" Shenanigans Re: Werder president denies Ben Arfa link - German TV Re: Werder Bremen 'refuse to comment' on Ben Arfa link Re: Marseille: 'Ongoing discussions with clubs' regarding Ben Arfa Re: Dassier: "Newcastle propose to buy Hatem should he play 25 games" Re: Reports: NUFC submit 'acceptable' offer for Ben Arfa, nothing yet confirmed Re: RMC: Ben Arfa due in Newcastle on Friday to finalise loan deal Re: SSN: Hughton "Ben Arfa talks close to conclusion". Re: NUFC.com: Man seen at training ground Re: Echo/Journal journos: Ben Arfa to NUFC 'done deal' Re: Ben Arfa signs! Official Re: Ben Arfa signs on a season long loan, with a view to permanent deal Re: Hatem Ben Arfa... has a broken leg Re: Hatem Ben Arfa..out for 6 months according to agent ..And culminating on 03rd October with Re: Hatem Ben Arfa suffers double leg break - out for six months according to agent Other brief thread title changes included.. Jonny Hall's a dick Hughton resigns from NUFC over lack of transfer funds Kinnear contacted to take over as caretaker – SSN Jose Enrique in talks with Arsenal Dave appointed as Aston Villa manager Ben Arfa signs for Sunderland...12 year deal... Mukesh Ambani officially gains control of NUFC for £340 Million Gazza sent in to seal Ben Arfa deal.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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