Cajun Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Very quiet today, was ganged up on but given the amount of chances Jonas got to get free and make space (then fuck it up) I would have expected Ben Arfa to create a little more. Still really early days though and the promise is more certainly there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 When he did get into crossing positions he put decent balls in. But it's such a waste to just have him as a crossing machine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 When did get into crossing positions he put decent balls in. But it's such a waste to just have as a crossing machine. Yep. Should be in the centre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 If we're going to stick with the absurd 4-5-1, there's really no justification for not sticking Ben Arfa in the middle anymore. Fuck it, play Nolan on the wing if you can't drop him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Nolan really is our weak link at home. Not because he's particulary shit, but because he occupies a spot that if he was dropped would give Ben Arfa his favoured position and no longer force Jonas onto the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Nolan really is our weak link at home. Not because he's particulary shit, but because he occupies a spot that if he was dropped would give Ben Arfa his favoured position and no longer force Jonas onto the bench. Precisely. I thought HBA was brought here under the premise he would play behind Carroll. Routledge, HBA and Gutierrez is a strong attacking midfield imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Nolan really is our weak link at home. Not because he's particulary s***, but because he occupies a spot that if he was dropped would give Ben Arfa his favoured position and no longer force Jonas onto the bench. Precisely. I thought HBA was brought here under the premise he would play behind Carroll. Routledge, HBA and Gutierrez is a strong attacking midfield imo. Having to accommodate Nolan is the root cause of all our tactical disjoinedness really. Big test ahead for Hughton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Ben Arfa played some lovely through balls into dangerous areas in the first half. Unfortunately with no movement up front he was effectively passing it to their keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Ben Arfa played some lovely through balls into dangerous areas in the first half. Unfortunately with no movement up front he was effectively passing it to their keeper. Its why fkn 4-4-1-1 shit really fks me off.. even more so when we are relying on a slug getting forward and supporting Carroll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 If he keeps getting needlessly subbed which ultimately cost us games, I can't imagine him and his ego will want to stick around after the loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Nolan really is our weak link at home. Not because he's particulary s***, but because he occupies a spot that if he was dropped would give Ben Arfa his favoured position and no longer force Jonas onto the bench. Precisely. I thought HBA was brought here under the premise he would play behind Carroll. Routledge, HBA and Gutierrez is a strong attacking midfield imo. Having to accommodate Nolan is the root cause of all our tactical disjoinedness really. Big test ahead for Hughton. He'll drop him after another two awful performances against City and Wigan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Looked like he was holding something back for the most part today although he did some good things. Him and Jonas should be playing together not replacing each other though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Ben Arfa played some lovely through balls into dangerous areas in the first half. Unfortunately with no movement up front he was effectively passing it to their keeper. So, basically, he was giving the ball away repeatedly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Ben Arfa played some lovely through balls into dangerous areas in the first half. Unfortunately with no movement up front he was effectively passing it to their keeper. So, basically, he was giving the ball away repeatedly? That might be how the Newcastle coaching team will look at it. In much the same way as Milner and Duff were blamed for not producing the goods when we had Nicky Butt and Owen in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Ben Arfa played some lovely through balls into dangerous areas in the first half. Unfortunately with no movement up front he was effectively passing it to their keeper. So, basically, he was giving the ball away repeatedly? That's not true, he only lost the ball once. If anything he wasn't trying to make something happen enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Ben Arfa played some lovely through balls into dangerous areas in the first half. Unfortunately with no movement up front he was effectively passing it to their keeper. So, basically, he was giving the ball away repeatedly? That's not true, he only lost the ball once. If anything he wasn't trying to make something happen enough. Not sure that is particularly true either. He was trying to create something but there were just no movement upfront for him to do anything. A couple of times (at least in the 1st half) he dribbles past players to the center, paused for a while to look for runners and there was none (I was screaming my head off for someone to run into space). Without that he inevitably tried the only option he had which was to cross to the back post (still a few decent crosses) but there was no way Carroll was gonna get those when he was being marked out by both Huth and Shawcross. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I'll echo the "him and Jonas need to be in the same team, not replacing each other" sentiments. They both offer a directness and unpredictability that can hurt oponents, with Routlege a decent option from the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I'll echo the "him and Jonas need to be in the same team, not replacing each other" sentiments. They both offer a directness and unpredictability that can hurt oponents, with Routlege a decent option from the bench. I'd rather see all three in the same team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I'll echo the "him and Jonas need to be in the same team, not replacing each other" sentiments. They both offer a directness and unpredictability that can hurt oponents, with Routlege a decent option from the bench. I'd rather see all three in the same team This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Has he now played 3 of the 25 games or did his sub appearance not count? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I'll echo the "him and Jonas need to be in the same team, not replacing each other" sentiments. They both offer a directness and unpredictability that can hurt oponents, with Routlege a decent option from the bench. I'd rather see all three in the same team This. x2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 x3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 x4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 x5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 f*** it I might aswell go against my own post and x6 it x6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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