Elliottman Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Im excited as anyone to see him, but we really have to be patient with him. Not saying anyone in particular, but really need to give him a good 10-15 full games to see him in full flow i'd imagine. Saying that, its going to be great seeing him come on today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Going to be an "exclusive interview" with Ben Arfa on a programme in France called Telefoot on Sunday night, so hopefully mimi will watch this for us! Telefoot is on sunday morning 10h45 (9h45 in England) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Brilliant, do you watch this? Would be good if someone could tell us what's said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Brilliant, do you watch this? Would be good if someone could tell us what's said. I think there'll be a video (for free) launched on TF1 site after the program, sunday or monday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEN BEN BEN ARFA Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Brilliant, do you watch this? Would be good if someone could tell us what's said. I think there'll be a video (for free) launched on TF1 site after the program, sunday or monday. the report will be on after Eurosport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Brilliant, do you watch this? Would be good if someone could tell us what's said. I think there'll be a video (for free) launched on TF1 site after the program, sunday or monday. the report will be on after Eurosport Ok Ben Ben Ben, thanks, you're the best element of the french clique here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I'm not just excited about Ben Arfa's return, but the prospect of him linking up with the likes of Marveaux and Cabaye. As the team this year appears to be more suited to Ben Arfa's game, as we've got rid of the likes of Nolan, who despite his important contributions is very once paced and not really blessed with the technical ability that Marveaux and Cabaye posses. Have said this about 45 times but we have some sexy as fuck players in this side, some still seem to think we are flirting with relegation but how many of the bottom 10 clubs would love just one of a number of our players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 On present form we're not relegation material, but if Colo gets a long term injury I think a lot of people will collectively shit themselves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyP Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Villa away has given me some confidence, moreso than any of our wins...we've been playing like a side missing a player they normally rely on, no spark in the middle. Cabaye seemed to hit some heights he hadnt hit in the other 4 games and now we have Ben Arfa coming back, aswell as Santon to come back and Ba and Marveaux getting fit, optomistic today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 On present form we're not relegation material, but if Colo gets a long term injury I think a lot of people will collectively s*** themselves If Taylor and Colo stay fit - especially the latter - we could be in for a really good season. If one of them breaks down, we're looking at Perch at CB and catastrophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I'm not just excited about Ben Arfa's return, but the prospect of him linking up with the likes of Marveaux and Cabaye. As the team this year appears to be more suited to Ben Arfa's game, as we've got rid of the likes of Nolan, who despite his important contributions is very once paced and not really blessed with the technical ability that Marveaux and Cabaye posses. Have said this about 45 times but we have some sexy as f*** players in this side, some still seem to think we are flirting with relegation but how many of the bottom 10 clubs would love just one of a number of our players? You have players, specially in the midfield, who can play very great football. The question is Pardew, his philosophy of the game. I don't know him enough. This year, the gamme at Villa was the only one with some good piece of football. Last season, spirit was high but the game was poor, surely because of lack of creative players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEN BEN BEN ARFA Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Brilliant, do you watch this? Would be good if someone could tell us what's said. I think there'll be a video (for free) launched on TF1 site after the program, sunday or monday. the report will be on after Eurosport Ok Ben Ben Ben, thanks, you're the best element of the french clique here put'1 de tradiction sa y es tu t'es mis a l'humour anglais Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Brilliant, do you watch this? Would be good if someone could tell us what's said. I think there'll be a video (for free) launched on TF1 site after the program, sunday or monday. the report will be on after Eurosport Ouais mais chut faut pas le dire Ok Ben Ben Ben, thanks, you're the best element of the french clique here put'1 de tradiction sa y es tu t'es mis a l'humour anglais Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyP Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 On present form we're not relegation material, but if Colo gets a long term injury I think a lot of people will collectively s*** themselves If Taylor and Colo stay fit - especially the latter - we could be in for a really good season. If one of them breaks down, we're looking at Perch at CB and catastrophy. http://www.nufcblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Mike-Williamson2.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Williamson first, if hes out then i would probably go Simpson in the middle, I'm sure he has played there before, not the best but better than Perch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 On present form we're not relegation material, but if Colo gets a long term injury I think a lot of people will collectively s*** themselves If Taylor and Colo stay fit - especially the latter - we could be in for a really good season. If one of them breaks down, we're looking at Perch at CB and catastrophy. http://www.nufcblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Mike-Williamson2.jpg Thought he was out for ages? Of course I'd be comfortable with him playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyP Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 On present form we're not relegation material, but if Colo gets a long term injury I think a lot of people will collectively s*** themselves If Taylor and Colo stay fit - especially the latter - we could be in for a really good season. If one of them breaks down, we're looking at Perch at CB and catastrophy. http://www.nufcblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Mike-Williamson2.jpg Thought he was out for ages? Of course I'd be comfortable with him playing. i fear he is becoming a bit of a penalty monkey...i may be overexaggerating but i swear he was getting clumsy last year til Tayls came back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 On present form we're not relegation material, but if Colo gets a long term injury I think a lot of people will collectively s*** themselves If Taylor and Colo stay fit - especially the latter - we could be in for a really good season. If one of them breaks down, we're looking at Perch at CB and catastrophy. http://www.nufcblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Mike-Williamson2.jpg Thought he was out for ages? Of course I'd be comfortable with him playing. He is out with a foot/ancle injury. Expected to return october 1st according to phyisoroom.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Taylor and Williamson had the Leeds fan in stitches a couple of months back. I'd hate to see them starting together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Aye, a CB partnership of Saylor and Willo wouldn't fill me with confidence like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Colo won't get injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I'm not sure I like the idea of a #10 in modern football. For a variety of reasons. Will wait and see though. I wish there were more "number 10s." I grew up in an era that had Roberto Baggio & Dennis Bergkamp. So it's an element that I really miss from the modern game. Same here. I still think it can be an invaluable position when you have the right player in there, although the traditional version is undoubtedly less effective now that so many teams field a specialist defensive midfielder to plug the gap in between the lines. If he's allowed just to drift into space wherever it may be and pull people all over he could completely change the way we play, he also has to be willing to get into the box and beyond the striker too though. Think they call it a "false 10" these days, don't they? Where Ozil played for Germany in the World Cup and VDV played for Spurs last season? Ozil plays in a 3 man midfield in the Lampard role. HBA will be playing off 1 striker like a traditional #10. IMO the modern #10 has to be capable of playing deeper in midfield with some steel (Modric) or out wide (Arshavin) or upfront (Totti). No way did Ozil play "the Lampard role" in the World Cup, he played off Klose, as Sneijder played off RVP and quite a bit off Milito for Inter if I remember rightly. They played as second-strikers as much as they did central midfielders, if not more. This approach led to Spurs using van der Vaart off Crouch for much of last season and it was very effective, although I do think your worry about becoming over-reliant on the number 10 is a very valid one. That I definitely agree with. There were even times last season where our players would just pass it to HBA and then stand still and watch him, but I'm hoping with the new lads it won't be like that this time around. To get the best out of him we need to be getting the ball to him and then ensuring he has options when he does have it. When defending Ozil plays much deeper than a traditional 10, so I wouldn't describe him as a real #10. You would never catch Baggio doing the job he done at the WC. Looking at the Germany formation he DEFINITELY played the Lampard role. Muller and Podolski (who are both pretty much strikers/ advanced wingers) primarily supported Klose as they where the furthest up the pitch. Bastian (Essien), Khedira (Makelele) and Ozil in the Lampard role. http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2010/6/25/1277493978561/Germany-v-England-001.jpg That's the classic Mourinho formation. The secondary goal/support threat came from the wingers as evidence with Muller being joint top scorer. Holland where similar with Robben very advanced and excellent. I don't think VDV introduction to the Spurs side has been a good thing overall. None of their strikers did well and they received less points than in the previous season. I'd think they would do better with VDV utilised for away games or rotated with Lennon on the right. In their current system, if VDV has a bad game Spurs won't win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Germany played a 4-2-3-1 with Ozil the centre of the 3, the Chelsea team you're comparing it to played a 4-3-3. I certainly wouldn't describe him as a centre midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mimifrench Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Marveaux, Cabaye and Abeid are all making rapid progress with their English skills and this week Hatem Ben Arfa told French TV crews he only wanted to talk to them in English in order to help him master the language. Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/09/24/marveaux-french-legion-have-more-to-offer-72703-29478602/#ixzz1YrpTr7Xx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Germany played a 4-2-3-1 with Ozil the centre of the 3, the Chelsea team you're comparing it to played a 4-3-3. I certainly wouldn't describe him as a centre midfielder. This. They played with Khedira Schweinsteiger Müller Özil Podolski Klose Özil played right behind Klose. Not as a CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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