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Ben Arfa looks like he is on Question of Sport on mimifrench's avatar.

 

Nah, he's just looking absolutely hot !

 

He's no Cabaye, like.

 

Honestly, between you and me, Cabaye "could not hold a candle to HBA" (il n'arrive pas à la cheville de Ben arfa) in terms of... EVERYTHING !

 

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A Patrick Kluivert forum :spit:

 

This was well before your time, but it was ran by a Patrick Kluivert fan who joined the forum when Kluivert signed, worshipped him like a god, completely patronised anyone who preferred Shearer, bigged up goals against the likes of Crystal Palace and Palestinian Farmers XI. The poster then left the moment Kluivert left, but every now and then if Kluivert scored a tap-in against a team of five year old children he'd come back and gloat, until one day he realised no clubs wanted Kluivert any more.

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Ben Arfa looks like he is on Question of Sport on mimifrench's avatar.

 

Nah, he's just looking absolutely hot !

 

He's no Cabaye, like.

 

Honestly, between you and me, Cabaye "could not hold a candle to HBA" (il n'arrive pas à la cheville de Ben arfa) in terms of... EVERYTHING !

 

 

I'd let wor Yohan absolutely obliterate me.

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A Patrick Kluivert forum :spit:

 

This was well before your time, but it was ran by a Patrick Kluivert fan who joined the forum when Kluivert signed, worshipped him like a god, completely patronised anyone who preferred Shearer, bigged up goals against the likes of Crystal Palace and Palestinian Farmers XI. The poster then left the moment Kluivert left, but every now and then if Kluivert scored a tap-in against a team of five year old children he'd come back and gloat, until one day he realised no clubs wanted Kluivert any more.

 

That sounds genuinely frightening. :lol:

 

Tbf, Kluivert at his best was some player. A #10 and a #9 rolled into 1.

 

 

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A Patrick Kluivert forum :spit:

 

This was well before your time, but it was ran by a Patrick Kluivert fan who joined the forum when Kluivert signed, worshipped him like a god, completely patronised anyone who preferred Shearer, bigged up goals against the likes of Crystal Palace and Palestinian Farmers XI. The poster then left the moment Kluivert left, but every now and then if Kluivert scored a tap-in against a team of five year old children he'd come back and gloat, until one day he realised no clubs wanted Kluivert any more.

 

That sounds genuinely frightening. :lol:

 

Tbf, Kluivert at his best was some player. A #10 and a #9 rolled into 1.

 

 

 

He's probably the best back to goal striker I've ever seen. His technique and link up play was amazing.

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A Patrick Kluivert forum :spit:

 

This was well before your time, but it was ran by a Patrick Kluivert fan who joined the forum when Kluivert signed, worshipped him like a god, completely patronised anyone who preferred Shearer, bigged up goals against the likes of Crystal Palace and Palestinian Farmers XI. The poster then left the moment Kluivert left, but every now and then if Kluivert scored a tap-in against a team of five year old children he'd come back and gloat, until one day he realised no clubs wanted Kluivert any more.

 

That sounds genuinely frightening. :lol:

 

Tbf, Kluivert at his best was some player. A #10 and a #9 rolled into 1.

 

 

 

Indeed. Was finished a year before/when he joined us like, shame.

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How many games did Kluivert start during his stint here? I know it wasn't many because he was up against Shearer. My lasting memory of him is he scored the goal that knocked a Mourinho Chelsea team out of a cup competition when they were champions with a glorious header. He was still a great finisher even when he came here but Souness didn't like him or Bellamy and got shot of them both. Then went on holiday with Shearer and Shepherd at some point.

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To be fair, the French are generally racist as fuck.  They were pretty much voluntary Nazis (bar a very small minority of brave resistance fighters) from 1939-1944 after all.  Not to mention the National Front stuff.

 

At first I couldn't believe this post existed, then I saw who wrote it.

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I'm not sure I like the idea of a #10 in modern football. For a variety of reasons. Will wait and see though.

 

Really?  Care to explain further?  If anything, I think the bog standard 4-4-2 is going out of fashion, and 4-3-3/4-2-3-1/4-4-1-1 is more popular and arguably more effective.

 

At the top level the #10 left with Zidane. Only Kaka has had any real top level success and he played in a team with 4 central midfielders (The AC side), he's been replaced in the Real side with someone who is able to play a deeper more central midfielder type position in Ozil

 

I think the only main problem with the number ten is that he can be too much of a focus of the whole team's play. Even Van Der Vaart disrupts Spurs' play to a certain extent IMO.

 

With HBA and the other midfielders we've got I'm not sure it's such an issue for us though. He's very direct and focused on going past people, and the other midfielders around him can also threaten the opposition.

 

THIS. This is why I have my doubts. The Spurs midfield is more talented than ours. Modric is amongst the best in the league, Lennon & Bale would start for 18/20 sides in the PL yet they are STILL over-reliant on VDV.

 

I'm not sure I like the idea of a #10 in modern football. For a variety of reasons. Will wait and see though.

I wish there were more "number 10s."

 

I grew up in an era that had Roberto Baggio & Dennis Bergkamp. So it's an element that I really miss from the modern game.

 

Same here. I still think it can be an invaluable position when you have the right player in there, although the traditional version is undoubtedly less effective now that so many teams field a specialist defensive midfielder to plug the gap in between the lines. If he's allowed just to drift into space wherever it may be and pull people all over he could completely change the way we play, he also has to be willing to get into the box and beyond the striker too though.

 

Think they call it a "false 10" these days, don't they? Where Ozil played for Germany in the World Cup and VDV played for Spurs last season?

 

Ozil plays in a 3 man midfield in the Lampard role. HBA will be playing off 1 striker like a traditional #10.

 

IMO the modern #10 has to be capable of playing deeper in midfield with some steel (Modric) or out wide (Arshavin) or upfront (Totti).

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4-0 win away at Ajax is a great result tbh. Doubt Shearer could manage the Twente youth side to do that. It's obvious that Kluivert, assisted by Bellamy, is the way forward.

 

Doubt Kluivert could give such crap views whilst wearing crap shirts...  :yao:

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How many games did Kluivert start during his stint here? I know it wasn't many because he was up against Shearer. My lasting memory of him is he scored the goal that knocked a Mourinho Chelsea team out of a cup competition when they were champions with a glorious header. He was still a great finisher even when he came here but Souness didn't like him or Bellamy and got shot of them both. Then went on holiday with Shearer and Shepherd at some point.

 

Kluivert actually started 25 games in all competitions.

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