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What Villa fans is saying something to do with Ashley Young being sold or summit

 

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http://www.astonvilla.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=37294&start=86&posts=89

 

a few of them seem over the moon. Go back to page 1

 

Classic case of don't know what they've got till its gone. How shit were they before he took over? hopefully they will return to being just as shit, if not more.

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where's Young off to then? haven't heard anything about that.

 

Bradley is a good shout mind with the US connection. but i reckon Lerner will view him as too inexperienced at club level and will want someone known as being shrewd in the transfer market after years of O'Neill's scattergun approach. Someone like Jol maybe?

 

I also reckon Klinsmann might be lined up for this one, again with the US connections.

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Fuking mental, poor Villa.

 

Can we have him please?

 

I was going to ask if you were joking, but I've just had to remind myself how far we've fallen since I was pointing out o'Neill's was totally unproven as a top quality manager. I do think he's someone who can consistently achieve that top ten/UEFA hole with virtually any club, and that combined with his particular style as a manager mean it might not actually be a bad move for us just now. Still don't like him and don't much want him, though - would be happier to press on with Hughton.

 

Hope the vile c*** supporters are devastated.

 

Same!

 

Been waiting for something to laugh at Villa about since the horrible c***s acted like small time c***s about us going down. Hopefully they flog all of their best players and plummet.

 

Don't count your chickens - unless Lerner's lost interest, which he hasn't really so far as I'm aware, I'd be over the moon if I were them and this could be the best thing to happen to them since o'Neill was appointed. The timing's pretty horrible of course... but nevertheless.

 

Why the fuck would you be over the moon ? Are you insane ? The bloke totally transformed a strugglling prem club into one of the top clubs 8 clubs in the country, there's nothing better out there available for Villa right now.

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Fuking mental, poor Villa.

 

Can we have him please?

 

I was going to ask if you were joking, but I've just had to remind myself how far we've fallen since I was pointing out o'Neill's was totally unproven as a top quality manager. I do think he's someone who can consistently achieve that top ten/UEFA hole with virtually any club, and that combined with his particular style as a manager mean it might not actually be a bad move for us just now. Still don't like him and don't much want him, though - would be happier to press on with Hughton.

 

Hope the vile c*** supporters are devastated.

 

Same!

 

Been waiting for something to laugh at Villa about since the horrible c***s acted like small time c***s about us going down. Hopefully they flog all of their best players and plummet.

 

Don't count your chickens - unless Lerner's lost interest, which he hasn't really so far as I'm aware, I'd be over the moon if I were them and this could be the best thing to happen to them since o'Neill was appointed. The timing's pretty horrible of course... but nevertheless.

 

Why the f*** would you be over the moon ? Are you insane ? The bloke totally transformed a strugglling prem club into one of the top clubs 8 clubs in the country, there's nothing better out there available for Villa right now.

 

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specultaion that its because they have agreed to sell milner and ashley young.

 

Nah, it won't be that.

 

MON has been the one who has sounded like he wanted to cash in on Milner this summer, apart from anything.

 

As I said earlier, I think it goes back to the fact that over the last two years, we've accrued an immense wage bill, including a lot of players on big deals, who never get a game.

 

Habib Beye, 31 years old, 3 year contract, 40k a week.

Nicky Shorey, 40k a week, never used.

Sidwell, 40k a week, comes on for ten mins here and there (and is shit)

 

Also, revealed recently that Emile Heskey (3.5 year contract at age 31, on 60k a week) is the highest earner at the club.

 

Personally, I think that is the thing which has done for him.

 

Is it good for us? Well, I don't know. I do think that had he stayed, he'd have got us to 6th or 7th this season again. That's not his problem, he could get most decently funded teams to around that level. His problem is that having got us there for three years, he plainly didn't have what it took to move us on. And that's not just judged on points / positions, it is judged to a large degree on what we've seen on the pitch at home for the last two years, where the football has been terribly predictable, and unproductive.

 

It is good for us if Lerner appoints the right man.

 

Were it not for the fact I've just heard he's been installed as favourite, I would be putting money on Martin Jol right now. He's the sort of manager we could use, and he's got an affinity for the club (used to watch us play on his days off when he was playing at Albion).

 

As an outside bet, what is Klinsmann doing these days? Rumours he is a friend of Lerner, and he was widely considered to be his planned manager before the takeover, until he heard everyone else wanted MON.

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O'Neill we go to the first biggish club that sacks their manager this season, depending on their start, I could see him ending up at the Mackems, should Bruce not get them going. If he's had problems with Lerner not backing him, then he's hardly likely to get on with Ashley, but we can only hope.

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Very stupid mistake from both sides of the club. However, i do think his tactics and decisions were baffling at times, he transformed them and i can see a mid table finish this season and maybe a bit worse the season after.

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Hopefully this doesn't mean Ashley Young is joining us...please God no.

 

Yeh cos that would be just awful.

 

hmmmm i don't know if you're trying to be sarcastic but awful is the exact word i'd use for this potential signing. Besides the fact that he's massively overrated, dives a lot, cuts inside every chance he gets.........we don't actually need him.

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specultaion that its because they have agreed to sell milner and ashley young.

 

Nah, it won't be that.

 

MON has been the one who has sounded like he wanted to cash in on Milner this summer, apart from anything.

 

As I said earlier, I think it goes back to the fact that over the last two years, we've accrued an immense wage bill, including a lot of players on big deals, who never get a game.

 

Habib Beye, 31 years old, 3 year contract, 40k a week.

Nicky Shorey, 40k a week, never used.

Sidwell, 40k a week, comes on for ten mins here and there (and is shit)

 

Also, revealed recently that Emile Heskey (3.5 year contract at age 31, on 60k a week) is the highest earner at the club.

 

Personally, I think that is the thing which has done for him.

 

Is it good for us? Well, I don't know. I do think that had he stayed, he'd have got us to 6th or 7th this season again. That's not his problem, he could get most decently funded teams to around that level. His problem is that having got us there for three years, he plainly didn't have what it took to move us on. And that's not just judged on points / positions, it is judged to a large degree on what we've seen on the pitch at home for the last two years, where the football has been terribly predictable, and unproductive.

 

It is good for us if Lerner appoints the right man.

 

Were it not for the fact I've just heard he's been installed as favourite, I would be putting money on Martin Jol right now. He's the sort of manager we could use, and he's got an affinity for the club (used to watch us play on his days off when he was playing at Albion).

 

As an outside bet, what is Klinsmann doing these days? Rumours he is a friend of Lerner, and he was widely considered to be his planned manager before the takeover, until he heard everyone else wanted MON.

 

a quick google search for Klinsmann shows he turned up at a training session for the seattle sounders yesterday, a side currently co-owned by Drew Carey, a close friend of Randy Lerner's...

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Fuking mental, poor Villa.

 

Can we have him please?

 

I was going to ask if you were joking, but I've just had to remind myself how far we've fallen since I was pointing out o'Neill's was totally unproven as a top quality manager. I do think he's someone who can consistently achieve that top ten/UEFA hole with virtually any club, and that combined with his particular style as a manager mean it might not actually be a bad move for us just now. Still don't like him and don't much want him, though - would be happier to press on with Hughton.

 

Hope the vile c*** supporters are devastated.

 

Same!

 

Been waiting for something to laugh at Villa about since the horrible c***s acted like small time c***s about us going down. Hopefully they flog all of their best players and plummet.

 

Don't count your chickens - unless Lerner's lost interest, which he hasn't really so far as I'm aware, I'd be over the moon if I were them and this could be the best thing to happen to them since o'Neill was appointed. The timing's pretty horrible of course... but nevertheless.

 

Why the fuck would you be over the moon ? Are you insane ? The bloke totally transformed a strugglling prem club into one of the top clubs 8 clubs in the country, there's nothing better out there available for Villa right now.

 

Randy Lerner transformed them. Any manager in the league could take a team that changes from one of the lowest budgets in the league to one of the highest in Europe from the bottom half to the top. He's still finished no higher than every Villa manager I can remember and looked clueless has to how to take them further. What is this nonsense about Liverpool ffs  :lol: His tactics and transfer policy (What is it, 3 foreign signings ever?) belong in the bottom half.

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specultaion that its because they have agreed to sell milner and ashley young.

 

Nah, it won't be that.

 

MON has been the one who has sounded like he wanted to cash in on Milner this summer, apart from anything.

 

As I said earlier, I think it goes back to the fact that over the last two years, we've accrued an immense wage bill, including a lot of players on big deals, who never get a game.

 

Habib Beye, 31 years old, 3 year contract, 40k a week.

Nicky Shorey, 40k a week, never used.

Sidwell, 40k a week, comes on for ten mins here and there (and is s***)

 

Also, revealed recently that Emile Heskey (3.5 year contract at age 31, on 60k a week) is the highest earner at the club.

 

Personally, I think that is the thing which has done for him.

 

Is it good for us? Well, I don't know. I do think that had he stayed, he'd have got us to 6th or 7th this season again. That's not his problem, he could get most decently funded teams to around that level. His problem is that having got us there for three years, he plainly didn't have what it took to move us on. And that's not just judged on points / positions, it is judged to a large degree on what we've seen on the pitch at home for the last two years, where the football has been terribly predictable, and unproductive.

 

It is good for us if Lerner appoints the right man.

 

Were it not for the fact I've just heard he's been installed as favourite, I would be putting money on Martin Jol right now. He's the sort of manager we could use, and he's got an affinity for the club (used to watch us play on his days off when he was playing at Albion).

 

As an outside bet, what is Klinsmann doing these days? Rumours he is a friend of Lerner, and he was widely considered to be his planned manager before the takeover, until he heard everyone else wanted MON.

 

Strange, rarely does the negoiation of salaries fall the manager, that's generally a chairman level negoiation.

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Fuking mental, poor Villa.

 

Can we have him please?

 

I was going to ask if you were joking, but I've just had to remind myself how far we've fallen since I was pointing out o'Neill's was totally unproven as a top quality manager. I do think he's someone who can consistently achieve that top ten/UEFA hole with virtually any club, and that combined with his particular style as a manager mean it might not actually be a bad move for us just now. Still don't like him and don't much want him, though - would be happier to press on with Hughton.

 

 

He would be a massive step up, but considering the rumours why he's leaving Villa to how we are currently run there's no chance on earth he'd come here, it would be out of the fire and in to the sun.

 

 

 

Heh, yeah pretty much. Only thing is Lerner's mob are intelligent and strong-minded. So far as I'm aware, they've always done what they think is best for the Aston Villa's future and it's usually been right. In contrast, our lot are short-sighted cowards who might actually respond to o'Neill's assuredness, funnily enough - I know at first sight he can appear like Keegan, but I think the dynamics would be different and could (not definitely would) turn out more in his favour... at least long enough for him to give us stable premiership mediocrity for 2 to four seasons. Of course, our board have shown they only need six months to turn that kind of position into relegation, but that's another story.

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specultaion that its because they have agreed to sell milner and ashley young.

 

Nah, it won't be that.

 

MON has been the one who has sounded like he wanted to cash in on Milner this summer, apart from anything.

 

As I said earlier, I think it goes back to the fact that over the last two years, we've accrued an immense wage bill, including a lot of players on big deals, who never get a game.

 

Habib Beye, 31 years old, 3 year contract, 40k a week.

Nicky Shorey, 40k a week, never used.

Sidwell, 40k a week, comes on for ten mins here and there (and is s***)

 

Also, revealed recently that Emile Heskey (3.5 year contract at age 31, on 60k a week) is the highest earner at the club.

 

Personally, I think that is the thing which has done for him.

 

Is it good for us? Well, I don't know. I do think that had he stayed, he'd have got us to 6th or 7th this season again. That's not his problem, he could get most decently funded teams to around that level. His problem is that having got us there for three years, he plainly didn't have what it took to move us on. And that's not just judged on points / positions, it is judged to a large degree on what we've seen on the pitch at home for the last two years, where the football has been terribly predictable, and unproductive.

 

It is good for us if Lerner appoints the right man.

 

Were it not for the fact I've just heard he's been installed as favourite, I would be putting money on Martin Jol right now. He's the sort of manager we could use, and he's got an affinity for the club (used to watch us play on his days off when he was playing at Albion).

 

As an outside bet, what is Klinsmann doing these days? Rumours he is a friend of Lerner, and he was widely considered to be his planned manager before the takeover, until he heard everyone else wanted MON.

 

Strange, rarely does the negoiation of salaries fall the manager, that's generally a chairman level negoiation.

 

 

im sure it would have been done by the chairman.

 

the point is, he has backed his manager, buying who he wanted, and he either has never used them, or they've been fucking shite.

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Seems all the Villa fans are crying on their shitty little message board  :weep:

 

Yep, it was all quiet on here when Keegan left... ;)

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