Ronaldo Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Aye, from a Fulham fan's footballing perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 He needs to realise he is a Makelele and not an Essien. Fucking rubbish again tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 His fans have deserted him. Not really. Only the knee jerk variety with no appreciation of how a game pans out. Most are popping up here like nipples on a cold night. So when was his last good game btw? Today if you watched the game from a footballing perspective. You need some glasses and fast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 His fans have deserted him. Not really. Only the knee jerk variety with no appreciation of how a game pans out. Most are popping up here like nipples on a cold night. So when was his last good game btw? Today if you watched the game from a footballing perspective. You need some glasses and fast. You need to get a time machine and fast forward to the future when you'll be parroting everything I'm saying today two months down the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 His fans have deserted him. Not really. Only the knee jerk variety with no appreciation of how a game pans out. Most are popping up here like nipples on a cold night. So when was his last good game btw? Today if you watched the game from a footballing perspective. You need some glasses and fast. You need to get a time machine and fast forward to the future when you'll be parroting everything I'm saying today two months down the line. I highly doubt that considering I've criticised him since start of the season for the same reasons many people tonight have been commenting on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Thought he was very poor tonight, first time I thought that I could bear it if we sold him. Although he would look much better with Cabaye alongside him instead of Jonas, and with defenders he can give the ball to with confidence. He breaks up play well and wins possession, but tonight he gave possession away just as much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 His fans have deserted him. Not really. Only the knee jerk variety with no appreciation of how a game pans out. Most are popping up here like nipples on a cold night. So when was his last good game btw? Today if you watched the game from a footballing perspective. You need some glasses and fast. You need to get a time machine and fast forward to the future when you'll be parroting everything I'm saying today two months down the line. I highly doubt that considering I've criticised him since start of the season for the same reasons many people tonight have been commenting on. Really mate I can't be bothered. Just go away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 His fans have deserted him. Not really. Only the knee jerk variety with no appreciation of how a game pans out. Most are popping up here like nipples on a cold night. So when was his last good game btw? Today if you watched the game from a footballing perspective. You need some glasses and fast. You need to get a time machine and fast forward to the future when you'll be parroting everything I'm saying today two months down the line. I highly doubt that considering I've criticised him since start of the season for the same reasons many people tonight have been commenting on. Really mate I can't be bothered.Just go away. Bye then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Thought he was very poor tonight, first time I thought that I could bear it if we sold him. Although he would look much better with Cabaye alongside him instead of Jonas, and with defenders he can give the ball to with confidence. He breaks up play well and wins possession, but tonight he gave possession away just as much. I have no problem with selling him FWIW. But what you failed to mention here is how he so often kept possession under severe pressure which resulted in most our best periods of ball retention. It kind of pisses me off when I see him getting the blame for a disjointed performance when it's more down to the bumbling use of resources by a manager out of his depth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Thought he was very poor tonight, first time I thought that I could bear it if we sold him. Although he would look much better with Cabaye alongside him instead of Jonas, and with defenders he can give the ball to with confidence. He breaks up play well and wins possession, but tonight he gave possession away just as much. I have no problem with selling him FWIW. But what you failed to mention here is how he so often kept possession under severe pressure which resulted in most our best periods of ball retention. It kind of pisses me off when I see him getting the blame for a disjointed performance when it's more down to the bumbling use of resources by a manager out of his depth. Yeah, fair enough, he often retains the ball under pressure. But he often loses it as well. I'm not saying you're wrong, but what do you mean by the manager's use of resources, and how would that stop Tiote passing to the opposition and losing the ball? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 He needs to realise he is a Makelele and not an Essien. Fucking rubbish again tonight. Yup, needs to get back to basics. Think he only won 1 tackle tonight and fuck knows how many times he gave the ball away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Thought he was very poor tonight, first time I thought that I could bear it if we sold him. Although he would look much better with Cabaye alongside him instead of Jonas, and with defenders he can give the ball to with confidence. He breaks up play well and wins possession, but tonight he gave possession away just as much. I have no problem with selling him FWIW. But what you failed to mention here is how he so often kept possession under severe pressure which resulted in most our best periods of ball retention. It kind of pisses me off when I see him getting the blame for a disjointed performance when it's more down to the bumbling use of resources by a manager out of his depth. Yeah, fair enough, he often retains the ball under pressure. But he often loses it as well. I'm not saying you're wrong, but what do you mean by the manager's use of resources, and how would that stop Tiote passing to the opposition and losing the ball? Players moving into space around him would make his job a lot easier I suspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Hope the ACON puts him right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Of course, I've said loads of times that we lack movement off the ball. But that doesn't entirely excuse all the times he loses the ball with crazy passing. I'm a fan of his though, he is just giving the ball away a lot recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Needs to go back to the simple passing game he had when we first signed him. Although I seem to remember quotes from Pardew when he first took over saying how Tiote needs to be more 'progressive' with his passing. He doesn't. He needs to give it simple quick and early and concentrate on playing to his strengths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Can someone bring the real tiote back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 It's so simple what teams are doing, they are just pressurising him more and waiting for a mistake from him. It's not if but when he makes a mistake nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Couple of times tonight he lost the ball or a player breezed past him and he inexplicably decided he wasn't going to bother tracking back. HBA, Ba and Cisse were busting a nut to get back and he decided to walk it Like others have said he just needs to stop believing his hype so much and get back to basics and keep things ticking over. His off the ball movement to me is good, he makes himself available for passes and doesn't go into hiding. Doesn't help when at times he has no one to pass to though, and Cabaye not being there isn't helping him. Still think he is a very important player though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 So many players like him make a huge reputation for themselves then turn shit. Palacios, Diarra x3, Appiah, Muntari just a few examples, look awesome for a bit, then I dunno what happens to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Chelsea back in for Toon ace EatSleepSport-58 minutes ago Newcastle are facing another battle to keep hold of Cheick Tiote as Chelsea step up their interest in the midfielder. Toon boss Alan Pardew fought off late ... http://www.eatsleepsport.com/newcastle-united/chelsea-back-in-for-toon-ace-1515754.html#.UMmMKoOCWIA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I remember games like Arsenal away when Carroll scored. He was immense in that match, everywhere, all over the pitch. But powerful play mixed with brilliant simple, neat passing. Thesedays it's like he's trying to force too much and do too many things. As others have said he needs to go back to the basics. Break play up, protect the back four and give simple passes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Is he being asked to try and add more t his game, create & score.. Its not what he is about but with no Cabaye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Is he being asked to try and add more t his game, create & score.. Its not what he is about but with no Cabaye. Pardew said when he signed his new 6 year contract he thought he could become the complete midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 It's only really been this season he's looked truly off form imo. His season was broken up last season with injury and suspension, but he still turned in some immense performances. He fucking owned Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. I'm not ready to write him off after half a season off poor form (which has also been broken up by injury and suspension). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 The performance v Man U at home last season... Why can't he be like that all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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