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Strangely, I wouldn't say Tiote is 'dirty' at all. He's all-action and too aggressive, but he's not sly or fouling deliberately. He needs to tone it down but he also gets booked for a lot of stuff that is fairly soft.

 

Aye, I wouldn't class him as dirty, just an idiot. There aren't many tackles he does which i'd say were dangerous, he just seems to get carried away  :lol: Cabaye is by far and away our dirtiest player imo.

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Just watched highlights of the Man U game from last season - Tiote was on fire that night.  Reminded me of how good a player he can be.  No way do I want him to leave.

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Just watched highlights of the Man U game from last season - Tiote was on fire that night.  Reminded me of how good a player he can be.  No way do I want him to leave.

Yeah looking at that Pardew's ruined him. Looks like a league two player after a year with Pardew.
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"The dirtiest Premier League players 2012-13"

 

http://sport.uk.msn.com/football/the-dirtiest-premier-league-players-2012-13-1

 

http://sport.uk.msn.com/football/the-dirtiest-premier-league-players-2012-13-1#image=11

 

1. Cheick Tiote - Newcastle United

 

Age: 26 Position: Midfielder Games: 24 Cards: 7Y/1R Minutes per foul: 30.8

 

The Ivorian has proved a real hit with the Geordie faithful but his tackling does often leave a lot to be desired. Tiote is a warrior in the middle of the park but at times needs reining in front of a passionate St. James’ Park crowd. The stats show Tiote is a clear ‘winner’ at the top of this list with a foul every half an hour.

 

That's rather crap. Can't say I've ever seen him offer a malicious challenge. He's just thick as hell.

 

EDIT: what Neej and Ian said.

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I don't blame Pardew for Tiote's slump that much tbh, as he has all the ingredients to be a great midfielder except the brain, Pardew wanted him to be the complete midfielder he might have turned into that had he fulfilled the potential of his debut season, but alas no. If he has any sense* he'll try and get him to focus his game back down to being a defensive midfield and stop being so overeager in the tackles. Or just sell him.

 

* :lol:

 

 

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Oh ffs ok maybe overstating it I'll grant you, but he should not be as risky a passer as he is now based on his start. He can carry the ball forward and impose himself on games even if he isn't creative at all. He can be more than a tackler at the back of midfield and now he isn't even that.

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IMO, Tiote is the kind of player who needs to have the perfect parts around him to play well. Can't ask too much (or much of anything really) of him, but he can be a dominant DM under the right conditions. Unfortunately, we never provide the right conditions and he's not versatile enough to make-up for his short-comings.

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He just looks like that bog-standard, unspectacular player that £3m typically buys you. On top of not being particularly great at anything, this ridiculous hard-man reputation has gone to his head, and he brings the team down for the sake of his own 'style'.

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He just looks like that bog-standard, unspectacular player that £3m typically buys you. On top of not being particularly great at anything, this ridiculous hard-man reputation has gone to his head, and he brings the team down for the sake of his own 'style'.

 

Best summary I've seen.

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I don't disagree that that is what he looks like now :|

 

Maybe the potential was an illusion, or maybe it's all pardew's fault, I;d be happy to get rid of him now if we can sell him for a good price

 

Last season against Man U at home though...He can be a very good player, maybe only in right circumstances, but if he just had the right mindset it is possible

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Good defensive or holding midfielders are generally supposed to be players you don't notice much. They cut off the angles, win the ball back, play simple balls unless there is an obvious attacking option, and go about their jobs without much fuss. I notice Tiote far too much. He carries the ball far too much for us and holds it far too long. That was always the case, but it's gotten worse as his form has deteriorated over the past 12-18 months. I notice the guy losing the ball for us in dangerous areas an alarming amount. I notice him flying into stupid challenges or trying to take back unwinnable ball 4-5 times a match. His whole "hard man" image is part of that too. We have this petulant guy who has proven to be a bit of loose cannon when what we need there is someone who calms every one down and allows the team to build.

 

To be honest, I've never loved the guy, but when things are going well he's an entertaining character, and he provides real physicality in midfield, which none of the other midgets were doing until Mou arrived on Tyneside. If he does go, I'd like a direct, albeit improved and more consistent replacement. People talk about having three lightweight passers in midfield and playing more fluid football, and this is a possibility, but I'd much prefer a talented, physical ball winner that isn't Vurnon Anita.

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As a single purpose defensive mid or anchorman he's superb. But that means changing him back from the all purpose midfielder Pardew has tried to change him in to. He simply isn't good enough for this role but it seems Tiote has a taste for it and wants to be that type of player now, that creates and shoots and does other stuff he's not very good at.

 

Really that's it for me, if he wants to go back to the protector role and stick to that, keep it simple, retain possession and pass it to better creative players as soon as he can and wait till the opposition are in possession again until he does anything then we've got one of the best in the league. However if his head is now in all action mode down to Pardew and the crowd shouting shoot at every opportunity, then he can take his glory seeking shite elsewhere and well get someone in intelligent enough to know their own game and how to be effective for their club.

 

I desperately want him to stay, but think it will take a bigger manager than Pardew to tell him what to do and what is right for him and the club.

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"He reminds me of Essien, if I am honest, he is that type."He needs to learn that in and around our third, he needs to be a lot safer - he can be a bit loose there - and he needs to be more progressive in his play."There is so much more to come from him if we can get him out of just popping it off safely."When he attacks teams and runs at them, he could be as effective for us as Essien is for Chelsea."

 

 

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