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One of the main reasons we are in the position we are is due to an incredibly light squad that is devoid of depth and competition.

 

Personally I would keep him until the summer.  No guarantee that either of the new players will hit the ground running.  We need cover and I would sooner have him in the squad than Colback right now.

 

Very true. Colback clearly isn't going anywhere though.

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Never hit the heights we all thought he might, but personally, I'll always have fond memories of him for the goal against Arsenal and his debut at Goodison.

 

Would I rather we kept him until the summer? Yes

Am I gutted to see him leave? No

 

 

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Was absolutely class for his first 12-18 months.  I remember his debut at Everton and being beaten to the MOTM award by HBA.

 

Somewhere along the line.  He started getting constant injuries, he looked to have put a bit of timber on and his form nosedived.  Teams figured out his little pirouette routine and he stopped playing so disciplined.  I mean positionally, of course.  He'll never learn to not pick up cheap cards and I can kind of accept a lot of them, due to the position he plays.

 

He's almost always looked good against the bigger teams, TBF.  Suits his game and you realise how important he is.  In home games against 'lesser' sides, he often tried to overplay and he was completely redundant.  May have been something to do with Pardew wanting him to be 'our Michael Essien'  :rolleyes: :idiot2:

 

I wouldn't be against keeping him, if he wasn't in and out the team with injuries and if it wasn't for the fact we've just signed two centre mids.  In an ideal world, Colback and Anita would be gone before him, but that won't happen.  For a start, someone would actually need to be interested in buying them. 

 

It looks like it's farewell, Cheiky.  That Arsenal goal  :smitten:

 

Agree. Good post.

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Jesus I forgot about that Essien comment.

 

He was colossal last night though. That's exactly the sort of dominant defensive displayed we've lacked in the centre of the pitch. If Shelvey could replicate the form he's showed in the past those two could have made an impressive partnership.

 

I'll be sorry to see him go despite two poor seasons.

 

Two poor seasons? More like four.

 

Shit footballer who was made to look a lot better as a DM by his godawful predecessors Smith, Butt etc.

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Jesus I forgot about that Essien comment.

 

He was colossal last night though. That's exactly the sort of dominant defensive displayed we've lacked in the centre of the pitch. If Shelvey could replicate the form he's showed in the past those two could have made an impressive partnership.

 

I'll be sorry to see him go despite two poor seasons.

 

Two poor seasons? More like four.

 

Shit footballer who was made to look a lot better as a DM by his godawful predecessors Smith, Butt etc.

:thup:

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I think it's now a bit mad to be getting rid of him at this point of the season and where we currently sit in the table, but with his lack of reliability from a fitness (and appearance) standpoint and his 1 dimensional game, the move in the big picture makes sense. Shame that he put in 2 classic Tiote performances versus Arsenal and Man Utd, but nonetheless, if it ushers in a movement of more 2 way players to play centrally for us who can contribute in not only the defensive side, ball retention, etc but also in attack.

 

Anyway, if he's sold this window, I'll fondly remember those first 2 seasons and always wonder "what-if" had he played for a better manager.

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If Tiote is fit and capable of being part of the squad, his last few performances show how valuable he can be for us, and it seems optimistic to think that two players who have played much of their careers higher up the pitch will be able to come in and match him in terms of physicality, ball winning, and positioning in front of the defence. It's a role we still need to fill even if we want more of an attacking contribution from our deeper midfielders. And I actually think that if his head is right and he is given the right sort of encouragement from the manager, and if there's a bit of movement ahead of him, he is a decent passer of the ball. I wouldn't sell him, and I'll be sorry to see him go presuming he does leave.

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If Tiote is fit and capable of being part of the squad, his last few performances show how valuable he can be for us, and it seems optimistic to think that two players who have played much of their careers higher up the pitch will be able to come in and match him in terms of physicality, ball winning, and positioning in front of the defence. It's a role we still need to fill even if we want more of an attacking contribution from our deeper midfielders. And I actually think that if his head is right and he is given the right sort of encouragement from the manager, and if there's a bit of movement ahead of him, he is a decent passer of the ball. I wouldn't sell him, and I'll be sorry to see him go presuming he does leave.

 

I've said all that down the years but there are two key factors for me. First it seems he's been wanting a move for a while. Second, I don't see a problem in selling him if we bring in a replacement and Saivet seems to be just that. Whether he'll be physically up to it remains to be seen, but you would hope that Carr and McClaren would realise what we need after the Anita experiment.

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If we can get £8m for him and it's reinvested in the team for a new CB and/or striker I'll be quite happy with that.

 

As it is, Ashley will probably keep hold of the dollar as he's spent too much for his liking this season.

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His performance versus Man Utd 4 years ago was some of the best DM playing I've seen out of our squad in years, i'd say Abeid last season versus City and Liverpool was up there in terms of complete control and dominance from side-to-side and up and down the pitch.

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His performance versus Man Utd 4 years ago was some of the best DM playing I've seen out of our squad in years, i'd say Abeid last season versus City and Liverpool was up there in terms of complete control and dominance from side-to-side and up and down the pitch.

 

This fucking club, man. :( What a team we could've had with all the talent we've hounded out of the club via absolute dogshit managers.

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