ChezGiven Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Carroll, Barton, and Nolan are not as good as their performances today indicated, Disagree with that Baba, Villa's performance may have flattered us but Barton and Carroll in particular put in performances that do them credit, show their potential and in Barton's case remind us of how well he can play. I thought both Barton and Smith were fantastic today and half the reason Villa didnt get a sniff, we wanted it more. The MOTD analysis showed a few examples of over-running them, then (and here is the good bit) actually one-touch passing and moving through Villa's midfield. I agree the scoreline was an anomaly but not the result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spark Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Waddle was a bit of a biased cunt today like. Hardly gave us any credit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Waddle was a bit of a biased c*** today like. Hardly gave us any credit. His opinion is invalid until he can pronounce 'penalty' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spark Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Waddle was a bit of a biased c*** today like. Hardly gave us any credit. His opinion is invalid until he can pronounce 'penalty' Fair point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 It's three points from the first game tbh. A draw at Wolves would be a stonking result but we're s**** at Molineux and they're a reasonable side. Very winnable game at Wolves. If we can get a bit of momentum going then we could/should be looking to win games like this. It'll be tough but we shouldn't be scared of them. Says the one preaching about 'not getting carried away'. I'm not getting carried away. Wolves were one of the teams I thought we had a chance of finishing above and if we apply ourselves like we did today then we'll get a result. Saw the 2nd half of Wolves' game against Everton, got to say I was impressed with them, think it will be a tough one, would take a point from that one in a heartbeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Wolves is never an easy game, they play a similar style to us, a good counter attacking side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Wolves is never an easy game, they play a similar style to us, a good counter attacking side. Eh? Since when was your game based on counter-attacking? Genuine question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Since never. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Since never. Well with Lovenkrands, you always have pace on the counter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spizz energi Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 We're so lucky we held onto Enrique after relegation, the guy was just immense today, nullified every attack that came his way. Outstanding player. I'll never tire of watching Barton's goal, wow, there's magical powers in the tache I reckons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 He's quick off the bench.Don't be too scared Neil,you ain't as soft as Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 And Smith has a good engine, etc etc. Have an awful feeling you'll get a point at Goodison in a few weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 And Smith has a good engine, etc etc. Have an awful feeling you'll get a point at Goodison in a few weeks. Yeah me too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 And Smith has a good engine, etc etc. Have an awful feeling you'll get a point at Goodison in a few weeks. I'll be happy with that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Wolves is never an easy game, they play a similar style to us, a good counter attacking side. Eh? Since when was your game based on counter-attacking? Genuine question. We looked to break on Villa at times today. Our formations are at least similar. the 4-4-1-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 And Smith has a good engine, etc etc. Have an awful feeling you'll get a point at Goodison in a few weeks. I'll be happy with that I won't,it'll be an awful feeling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 And Smith has a good engine, etc etc. Have an awful feeling you'll get a point at Goodison in a few weeks. I'll be happy with that I won't,it'll be an awful feeling. Absolutely catastrophic, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/08/22/newcastle-6-0-aston-villa-carroll-the-main-man-as-newcastle-run-riot/ A tactical analysis from ZonalMarking. In a nutshell....we're proper mint and they aren't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Carroll, Barton, and Nolan are not as good as their performances today indicated, Disagree with that Baba, Villa's performance may have flattered us but Barton and Carroll in particular put in performances that do them credit, show their potential and in Barton's case remind us of how well he can play. I thought both Barton and Smith were fantastic today and half the reason Villa didnt get a sniff, we wanted it more. The MOTD analysis showed a few examples of over-running them, then (and here is the good bit) actually one-touch passing and moving through Villa's midfield. I agree the scoreline was an anomaly but not the result. This is fair enough, but what I am saying is that none of these players will consistently perform at this level. Carrol CAN be very good on his day, as can Barton, Smith, and Nolan, but overall they are all average players and this will show itself over the course of 38 matches. However, we do have ability. People are underrating this squad because the one that went down was much more talented. However, that team was decimated by injuries, infighting, chaos, lack of leadership, and a collecive quitters mentality. If we can show this same kind of fight all year, I think we will be comfortable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/08/22/newcastle-6-0-aston-villa-carroll-the-main-man-as-newcastle-run-riot/ A tactical analysis from ZonalMarking. In a nutshell....we're proper mint and they aren't. Been waiting for that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 That penalty is the worse i've seen on any level with me own eyes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Today would of been the perfect time to give Vuckic a run out instead of throwing Shola on for the last 20 mins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Well, no. Wednesday night is the perfect time to give Vuckic a 90 minute run out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 We had the match live here on Foxsports(and at a convenient time too - 8.30 pm here)so I was able to see the whole game as it happened. The day reminded me a bit of the Leicester match in 1993 when we won 7-1..even the No 9 got a hat-trick.. I was delighted for the fans who deserved such an unexpected treat after being out of the Prem and being fed a diet of rubbish prior to that. These days don't come round very often, so I hope everyone enjoyed it. For me, the biggest surprise of the day - apart from Villa's almost total surrender following their pen miss and Young's disallowed goal - was the all-round play of Andy Carroll. I have always felt that the lad had great potential but his movement off the ball was previously cumbersome ; not so today. He was, by a distance, man of the match and the Villa defence just could not cope with him. Admittedly, they made a big mistake by putting Clarke on him and the lad was simply lost, but Carroll gave a fine example of CF play, even dropping deep to set up attacks..his passing was excellent. He took his goals very well, no wild shooting, almost passed the 3rd into the net at the end and, of course, his awesome leap in the box to set up Nolan for the team's second which effectively killed the match. Williamson was steady and his tackle on Young in the box during the second half was timed to perfection. I have concerns over his pace(as with Coloccini)when facing the best PL strikers, but his reading of the game is good. Enrique was mostly his usual self but the defence was caught out by Young's run into the box for their pen. Great tackling in midfield by Smith & Barton(what a strike for the first !)and good running at their defence by Routledge but he spoils it by taking on too many defenders at a time. Jonas worked hard & caused them trouble all afternoon and Perch did better than I expected. Having given the side due credit for an excellent performance, we have to face the fact that Villa were dire. They were unlucky in that Carew made a mess of the pen and that Young's goal soon afterwards was ruled out, but there seemed to be no spirit in the side...a bit like NUFC in parts of the relegation season. Young was their best player, can't see him being there for long if this goes on and they were, of course, without some key players incl Agbonlahor, but their fans must have been shocked at the surrender...not that they deserve any sympathy after their gloating over our demise at the end of 2008/9. Totally out-muscled in midfield. I thought Babatunde's dismissal of Carroll's performance was way out of line - to say that his performance was better than the player he is seems to me to be a contradiction in terms. Carroll is only 21 and as I said some months back, some players do not mature until at least that age and he HAS improved. He will have far more difficult games this season than he had yesterday, but against Man U he was still dangerous, even without support so I hope he continues to improve. Unfortunately, if he continues to play as he did and gets his share of goals, he will be No 1 target by most of the big clubs because you just don't find CFs like him these days - the commentator said his performance reminded him of Drogba although that was a bit over the top just yet - and Carroll is English too. We would have a hard job keeping him in that event. Not getting carried away by this result as I didn't by the Man U defeat...we will still struggle away from SJP and I would take a point at Wolves right now because they will be a tough proposition at Molyneaux. Nevertheless, a great day which nobody would have dreamt of happening before KO...well done to all at the club ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I'll never get bored of watching these goals on SSN like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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