Jonás Gutiérrez (now managing Club Almagro)

[Dave]

Beginning to lose patience with Jonas now, which is probably overdue because he usually gives it his all and seems a genuine bloke. He just isn't good enough if we want to go anywhere. It's infuriating as fuck when he does all the hard work but then cannot cross the ball effectively - this happened at least three times today where he had a great first touch and/or beat the full back but then passed it away or straight to the goalkeeper. It probably wouldn't be such an annoyance if our main striking option was in a different style to Carroll. Routledge gave him an absolute lesson in wing play today IMO.

 

Not his fault that he's the only option out there like.

[Guest BlacknWhiteArmy]

Jonas has been playing badly for quite a while now. When he was dropped earlier in the season when HBA came in, he gave some of his best performances trying to win his place back, I remember City away he was a man possessed!

[Ronaldo]

Which is the last time I can remember him having a good game, besides the mackems at home.

 

50+ PL appearances and a sum total of 1 goal and 5 assists. Enough's enough, he isn't up to it at this level.

[ChrisMcQuillan]

He is cover for Ben Arfa, though.

 

He's decent cover.  It's De Jong's fault we've had to rely on him so heavily.

[PM]

I'm sick of him like, usually effort and commitment is one thing you can't question with him but I thought even that was lacking at times today, along with the usual failings.  Looked like he didn't want to be out there. 

 

Then out of nowhere he goes on a brilliant run down the left and you remember why he's there.

 

Then his ball across the box finds a blue shirt and it's back to square one.

[Mick]

I'm sick of him like, usually effort and commitment is one thing you can't question with him but I thought even that was lacking at times today, along with the usual failings.  Looked like he didn't want to be out there. 

 

Then out of nowhere he goes on a brilliant run down the left and you remember why he's there.

 

Then his ball across the box finds a blue shirt and it's back to square one.

 

It didn't help that our movement was poor up front, Routledge, Jonas, Tiote and Barton were all looking for movement and struggling at times.  Jonas isn't great but he's not our biggest problem either.

[Ronaldo]

I'd say that behind Shola, he's the worst player to consistently get a game for us.

[Newcastle Fan]

He's good but his lack of end product is really frustrating, surley we should make him focus on it in training so it gets better.

[Ronaldo]

He's approaching 28 and can't strike a football, it's not going to get any better, man.

[Gaz]

It does not help that when he does beat his man and put a decentish cross in our strikers are so static its unbelievable.

 

Fed a ball into Nolan on the pen spot in 1st half and Nolan mis controlled.

 

Routledge also put some great crosses in today but Nolan and Carroll would either be standing still or to slow to react!

[Newcastle Fan]

He's approaching 28 and can't strike a football, it's not going to get any better, man.

 

This isn't FM man, if shit strikers like Carlton Cole and Bobby Zamora can just "work hard in training" and they turn into England international than defintley he can improve a bit, although i doubt he will honestly.

[Ronaldo]

Except those two have been decent PL players for a while. Jonas has never been that.

[Guest BlacknWhiteArmy]

He's approaching 28 and can't strike a football, it's not going to get any better, man.

 

This isn't FM man, if s*** strikers like Carlton Cole and Bobby Zamora can just "work hard in training" and they turn into England international than defintley he can improve a bit, although i doubt he will honestly.

 

As opposed to your very FMish idea of making him work on it in training. "Peter Beardsley thinks you should put Jonas Gutierrez on a regime to improve his crossing"

[wormy]

[Guest BooBoo]

Awful today, we have to be looking to replace him.

[Dokko]

Fingers crossed woy is still in charge in a couple of weeks time and the rumour of £8m to Liverpool has some substance.

 

 

[wormy]

£8 million?

[Tooj]

Utterly dreadful today like.

[Guest neesy111]

It does not help that when he does beat his man and put a decentish cross in our strikers are so static its unbelievable.

 

Fed a ball into Nolan on the pen spot in 1st half and Nolan mis controlled.

 

Routledge also put some great crosses in today but Nolan and Carroll would either be standing still or to slow to react!

 

Dont blame our strikers on his poor crossing, he can't even get it off the ground most of the time.  He can't cross at 28 and never will.

[Wallace]

I always thinks he starts playing in the last 15-20 minutes.  He only seems to start taking players on and going past them later in the game.

 

[J7]

His crossing is no worse than Routledge and his pish floated crosses gifting the keeper an easy catch.

[Hughesy]

Really didn't think he as that bad yesterday.  I do agree that Jonas' crossing, but seriously you'd think from the sounds of people on here that crossing is an exact science.  Crossing has a hugely high unsuccessful completion rate.  Would be interested to see what our team's stats are for cross completion.

 

Still think his ability to run at players, win free kicks and generally unsettle defenders is underrated.  Really is not a priority to replace.

[junkhead]

He's unorthodox playing style aside, Jonas is looking very complacent lately. He can put much more effort in games. A couple of games on the bench would do him the world of good, too bad there's fuck all to replace him with..

[Jordan]

I think alot of people (me included) forget Jonas is crossing on his weaker foot. I know when i play i can take a touch and just about pass on my weak foot, so i can't imagine how difficult it must be to put a cross in while sprinting on my weak foot.

[Ronaldo]

Both his feet are complete rubbish, man. He closes his eyes and hopes for the best when he strikes the ball.