Wilson Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 think i'd still like a 'specialist' left back with jonas on the left of a midfield 3, means we still get his 'ball carrying' and the odd screamer ... doing a decent job at left back but would definitely rather see him in his normal role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Nee way we'll keep jonas there, he's not nearly good enough defensively (in a positional sense). His main asset defensively when he's a winger is his willingness to track back and take the ball off the opposition winger/double up before they've had a chance to get a ball in. I don't think this attribute really works when he's the one that's being taken on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TherealnorthernTOON Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 his positioning during first half against bellamy was a disaster. Would much rather have a left back who were more sound defensively and push jonas to that CM spot or left winger spot. The sad thing about this new formation is that Jonas best position is scrapped away but he is a professional and quite versitile player so should be playing quite good in either of the three positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 What are the chances, that Jonas stay in the full back position. He actually plays there pretty well and understands what to do in that position perfectly for the team. If he could settles in that position i would like to see him in the left back of 4-3-3. Adds quite a bit going forward and holding on to possession as well. Maybe then, we dont have to spend on the left back position in the summer. Disagree, he's very poor as a defensive full back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I think long term hes perfect in a midfield 3 with a destroyer and a creator (Tiote & Cabaye). His engine, leadership, close control, ball retention and decent defensive ability make him fit for that role. I think he and Tiote behind Cabaye is excellent. I know some would like to upgrade on midfield if we have a 3 in there, but to me, his skill-set and leadership make him an almost must-starter for me. Which I know may be unpopular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I think long term hes perfect in a midfield 3 with a destroyer and a creator (Tiote & Cabaye). His engine, leadership, close control, ball retention and decent defensive ability make him fit for that role. I think he and Tiote behind Cabaye is excellent. I know some would like to upgrade on midfield if we have a 3 in there, but to me, his skill-set and leadership make him an almost must-starter for me. Which I know may be unpopular. Agree with you there. If we play a 3 man midfield of Tiote, Cabaye and someone else, Jonas is a very good candidate for that role. His ball carrying and forward drive would make a huge difference. Without Tiote, Cabaye and Guthrie in the midfield 3, you definitely miss out on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Jonas in the middle was great against Norwich, would be harsh on guthrie but is he definately out injured? Allows Cabaye forward and covers so much ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 his positioning during first half against bellamy was a disaster. Yep. Not a LB and never will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 his positioning during first half against bellamy was a disaster. Yep. Not a LB and never will be. Aye, shouldn't be put up against pacey and dangerous winger if having to fill in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Aye i think we need to stop chucking him about all over the place. I can see the logic in putting him at left-back, but i think we need to get him fully embedded into this central role. Would save us having to make serious investment in that position next season, if we're going to stick with this delightful 4-3-3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodson Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 What are the chances, that Jonas stay in the full back position. He actually plays there pretty well and understands what to do in that position perfectly for the team. If he could settles in that position i would like to see him in the left back of 4-3-3. Adds quite a bit going forward and holding on to possession as well. Maybe then, we dont have to spend on the left back position in the summer. Disagree, he's very poor as a defensive full back. I think Jonas has the potential to be a great left back for us. He just needs a few games to get used to the role. Dont judge him by the liverpool game, tough situation... Like him in the central midfield 3 aswell. Fantastic player to have for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Assuming Guthrie is injured, I hope Jonas shifts back to midfield and we bring Santon or Ferguson in. Not sure I'd want Gosling or Vuckic in the midfield 3? Will probably end up with Raylor at left back...... That would be horrendous though, no cover from Jonas and he'd be fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Assuming Guthrie is injured, I hope Jonas shifts back to midfield and we bring Santon or Ferguson in. Not sure I'd want Gosling or Vuckic in the midfield 3? Will probably end up with Raylor at left back...... That would be horrendous though, no cover from Jonas and he'd be fucked. Would prefer Jonas in there but I'd also be fine with Vuckic playing too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I definitley see Vuckic in a midfield 3 rather than a 442, so I wouldn't be against playing him there in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I reckon Vuckic can look very good in the furthest forward of a midfield 3 infact i reckon it will fit him like a glove. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Vuckic in a midfield three, you say? Hmmm, yeah, can actually see that going well. Hopefully we'll see him out there at some point in our run-in (be it a substitute appearance or a starting place, I don't mind). If not, then I hope to see it happening next season (via a few runouts here and there). In the short and medium term though, Jonas is my first choice for CM (along with Cabaye and Tiote) - that's if we stick with the 4-3-3, of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I reckon Vuckic can look very good in the furthest forward of a midfield 3 infact i reckon it will fit him like a glove. Not sure he has the engine, positioning or discipline for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andrew Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I'd rather have Gosling in a mdifield 3 than Vuckic. Just think he might pop up with a goal and yeah, a little bit more disciplined in his defensive duties (i think he is more experienced in covering and sio on) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I'd rather have Gosling in a mdifield 3 than Vuckic. Just think he might pop up with a goal and yeah, a little bit more disciplined in his defensive duties (i think he is more experienced in covering and sio on) Playing as the most advanced of the three, I'd fancy Vuckic to bag a goal more so than I would Gosling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I'd rather have Gosling in a mdifield 3 than Vuckic. Just think he might pop up with a goal and yeah, a little bit more disciplined in his defensive duties (i think he is more experienced in covering and sio on) Playing as the most advanced of the three, I'd fancy Vuckic to bag a goal more so than I would Gosling. Reckon we could be completely over run in midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I definitley see Vuckic in a midfield 3 rather than a 442, so I wouldn't be against playing him there in the future. I think he could suit that role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 good performance today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Worked his bollocks off. He's invaluable in games like this. Great captains performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Solid, yeh he solid. Pah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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