Ronaldo Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Jonas shouldn't be anywhere near the squad, so it's only right that he isn't. Nobody wants him. Why should we? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 He's not just nowhere near the squad though, he's on another continent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Again, nobody wants him to play for their team. Let him do his own thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 We're paying him though. Could at least make him collect the bibs or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Jonas is still being paid though. It's ridiculous he has just been sent away like his. He should be still here training, and if need be playing more with the under 21s to help the youngsters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 More trouble than it's worth. I'm not comfortable defending any management/club decision but keeping him around only causes problems, from their perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Pardew will end up playing this guy at centre back at some point. Guaranteed. Nah, Raylor will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Hoping for a WWE-style comeback where he's put the spiderman mask back on and transformed into a goalscorer. Jonas Guerrero. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 To be honest, whether or not people think Jonas is any good or not, the way he has been treated is classless. So utterly befitting of the regime we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I don't think he has been banished to Argentina. I suspect his being there is a request he has made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Is that in any way related to being banished to train with the reserves and excluded from the squad? I suspect he has made a request based on what he has been told about his future. There are ways to treat people - with dignity and professionalism. Currently it seems as if we have not managed to do this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Its one thing to banish a player from the squad without reason, send him out on loan and not need him back, not even in the country, for the new season. That treatment of Jonas has been disgraceful and you wonder if he was another to stand up to Pardew. However, after all that, why name him in the 25. Is it just a case of wanting to avoid the awkwardness of not having a full list when he has let two go on deadline day? Does Jonas being named, rule out the possibility of someone out of contract signing up now before January? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Isn't the Jonas issue more likely to be related to his contract clause than Pardew's preference? Not so long ago we were hammering Pardew for liking him too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I am sure the contract clause is a massive factor. Still shabby treatment regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I agree with dropping him but there's ways of doing it. Jonas reckons Pardew didn't even explain it. I hope he finds a club, in the next transfer window and gets playing again, as it must be awful as a professional to not be involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 To be honest, whether or not people think Jonas is any good or not, the way he has been treated is classless. So utterly befitting of the regime we have. This is it. If you're of no value to Ashley then you're finished. Same with HBA, as soon as his asset value was gone, so was he. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Don't read too much into his inclusion for the 25-man squad btw. According to league rules, as long as there's a slot, a player should not be unfairly left out of the list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 More trouble than it's worth. I'm not comfortable defending any management/club decision but keeping him around only causes problems, from their perspective. How does keeping a player around "only cause problems?" Not doing so looks absolutely horrific from their perspective imo. He's on our books and in our squad, he should be with the squad regardless of whether or not he'll ever get on the pitch. It's not like he's an arsehole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 That's what I find baffling about all of this. Jonas is a pretty cool guy. Oh well, guess we'll never know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Maybe his wage demands stopped him from getting a move apparently one of the highest earners at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TruToon94 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Jonas was pretty good for us until the fifth placed season then his legs completely went the next season, it was like watching a different player. When he played well so did the whole team and his workrate was good but he was completely blown to bits in terms of ability by thirty when he should have been sold. I imagine at a league one side he could do a good job. Always liked him and he clearly respected the club, just a shame he completely lost it and had his reputation dragged through the mud by having a manager continue to pick him no matter what despite the fact it was clear he should be on the bench. To be honest even if he is claiming a high wage packet, good on him. Nothing better than to see Ashley have to pay out high wages for a completely surplus player. Hopefully he might end up a decent coach and come back home eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I agree with dropping him but there's ways of doing it. Jonas reckons Pardew didn't even explain it. 'Jonas, you're shit and I've been playing you for 2 seasons way past your incredibly average best. See ya.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Not liking a player isn't a reason to dislike someone as a human being, Ronny. I despised Smith as a player and I ended up hating Jonas as a player, but with Jonas in particular the treatment has been classless as usual from the club. It shouldn't be in any way vindicated because of our own dislike of him as a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Not liking a player isn't a reason to dislike someone as a human being, Ronny. I despised Smith as a player and I ended up hating Jonas as a player, but with Jonas in particular the treatment has been classless as usual from the club. It shouldn't be in any way vindicated because of our own dislike of him as a player. Spot on. He's actually being treated even worse than HBA, despite giving us several years of decent service and always being a complete pro. Our club is run by such a set of cunts it's beyond ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Is he out of contract this season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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