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It's fucking unreal, man. He's been poor for most of this season, but he's been one of our most consistent performers for the last three years. He's a proper professional, with freakish endurance and a world class work rate. Should be the last fuckibg person to be getting grief.

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It's f***ing unreal, man. He's been poor for most of this season, but he's been one of our most consistent performers for the last three years. He's a proper professional, with freakish endurance and a world class work rate. Should be the last fuckibg person to be getting grief.

 

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It's f***ing unreal, man. He's been poor for most of this season, but he's been one of our most consistent performers for the last three years. He's a proper professional, with freakish endurance and a world class work rate. Should be the last fuckibg person to be getting grief.

 

:thup:

 

:thup: x2

 

I'm proud that he wears our shirt and plays for our club. Proper player & proper pro.

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His last tweets through google translate:

 

I never see myself as someone especially talented. As feature is a ridiculous, sickening work ethic. While others sleep I'm working while the others eat I'm working.

 

What Inochi said.

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No player is immune from criticism and to be fair Jonas has deserved some this season because he's been poor.

 

Having said that whist criticism is part of the game, daft abuse on Twitter is not.

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While he's been poor this season ( not the only one btw) he works his bullocks off every single game and gives everything possible for us fans.

 

Not fit to wear the shirt? f*ck off your not fit to be fans you ungrateful c*nts.

 

Even after my twitter rant and this i still don't feel better really has pissed me off this has the ungrateful twats.

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Under Pardew he has effectively turned into an anchorman on the left wing. Very disappointing to see a complete lack of the drive that used to make him an important player for us, something that compensated for his terrible end product (at least he was driving the team forward and winning free kicks/corners etc etc). He, Simpson and Williamson/Saylor are the three players I'm hoping we'll be looking to displace in the first team in January with new signings (now that Ba/Cisse aren't going off to the ACoN).

 

To be fair to Jonas, if he wasn't a first teamer he'd probably be viewed as a good backup/utility midfielder, ala Park when he was at ManU, as he still has some good traits: experience, work rate, defensive cover, versatility, and the odd good game where he shows a bit of technical/passing ability. Problem clearly is that when he's starting every week as a winger, a position that inherently requires the player to contribute with assists and goals, then he's going to get the stick he's currently receiving (or should be receiving) - and rightfully so.

 

Being a bit cynical here, but I wonder whether dropping him is actually an option when his best friend is club captain and an absolutely vital player for us? If Jonas kicks up a fuss and decides to leave because he's dropped/replaced by a new signing, where would that leave Colo? Undoubtedly having Jonas here is a massive part of Colo's life. Maybe this makes Jonas a bit of an "untouchable"...or I'm talking out of my arse. Probably the latter.

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It's f***ing unreal, man. He's been poor for most of this season, but he's been one of our most consistent performers for the last three years. He's a proper professional, with freakish endurance and a world class work rate. Should be the last fuckibg person to be getting grief.

 

I'm not having that bit, like. He's been poor from an attacking perspective since he signed with the exception of a couple of purple patches here and there. His attitude, workrate and defensive contribution (until recently) can't be questioned, however.

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I love Jonas as much as the next man but the problem is he just doesn't offer anything going forward anymore.  As a winger (or wide midfielder) he should be part of our front 4 but we're limiting our attacking potential quite badly by playing him rather than someone who could beat a man and get a cross in or create something for the strikers.

 

Playing him in central midfield in a 3 is an option, of course, but if we're going to do that then we have other options who may arguably do a better job in that position.

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I am not sure whether he is under instruction not to push as far up the field, he doesn't seem to commit to attacks as much as he used to and he never hugs the byline like he used to when playing 442.

As for names on the team sheet his would be in amongst the definites, in this order:

Krul-Colo-Ba-Cabaye-HBA-Jonas-Tiote

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I used to hate the bloke in the early days and during the first half of the promotion season but he totally won me over.

 

The role he plays in the 4-3-3 we play is critical, he is an outlet who can carry the ball out of the dangerous areas, allow the wide player of the front three to tuck inside while he overlaps or bring the full back into play.

 

Sadly when we play this piss poor 4-4-2, all of his abilities are negated because he's neither a winger nor a central midfielder.

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I used to hate the bloke in the early days and during the first half of the promotion season but he totally won me over.

 

The role he plays in the 4-3-3 we play is critical, he is an outlet who can carry the ball out of the dangerous areas, allow the wide player of the front three to tuck inside while he overlaps or bring the full back into play.

 

Sadly when we play this p*ss poor 4-4-2, all of his abilities are negated because he's neither a winger nor a central midfielder.

Aye, he is much more suited to a 433. Fergie, sammy or Oberton would be much better for us in a 442 (**if we want to win the game, rather than hedge our bets!**)

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Not sure if he's just simply gone downhill, or if it's been curbed out of him, but since losing his long stride and turn of pace, he's become, on the face of it, nothing more than a defensive player. No one can fault his dedication and application in his new midfield role, but I'm sure even he himself knows that he's no good to us out on the left wing.

 

Jonas attacks better in a side playing with confidence and swagger. When his team is under the cosh, he tends to rush his decisions in the final third.

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Not sure if he's just simply gone downhill, or if it's been curbed out of him, but since losing his long stride and turn of pace, he's become, on the face of it, nothing more than a defensive player. No one can fault his dedication and application in his new midfield role, but I'm sure even he himself knows that he's no good to us out on the left wing.

 

Jonas attacks better in a side playing with confidence and swagger. When his team is under the cosh, he tends to rush his decisions in the final third.

Another issue is that he's always played on the left, he's a right footer so when we moan about his crosses it's because he either has to turn back on his right or put in a crappy cross with his weak foot... We may see a different player if he was on the right, wouldn't do us any harm to see HBA on his stronger left side either???

Another thing Jonas does well is hold the ball up well under pressure, when we are under the cosh he is great at drawing a foul or getting the ball out of tricky places and to one of ours.

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I'm not convinced we're seeing him change because he's lost a yard or whatever. He looks completely different to the kind of player he ever was. He showed in a fleeting glimpse on Sunday that the pace was still there in some capacity. I find it tremendously odd. He may well have peaked in the last couple of seasons or it may be down to coaching. Just can't put a finger on it; it's weird.

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