Willow Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Merson talking about the game http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,16497_6385769,00.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 We were a total f***ing shambles. Haven't played that badly for a long time. Serious questions need asking in the dressing room after that s***. I had to give my liver a severe punishing post-game We made you play s***. A large part of it was Moyes getting the tactics drastically wrong and a very lax attitude from the players. Yes, NUFC closed us down well and pressured us over the pitch but most teams will come to Goodison and do that. I don't think we'll play that badly again all season though. Fully deserved win for you yesterday, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Barton and Tiote completely shut down Everton and Arteta, as gifted as he is, couldn't get going. Whilst I quite like Fellaini his performance yesterday was little more than clumsy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Bit disappointed with the idea that we stifled Everton in the game by simply getting in faces and closing down etc. We played by far the better football overall, we hardly parked the bus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I think there's a pretty decent gap between us still, not monumental, but decent sized. Anyway, before the season started I got the feeling that a lot of Everton fans were confident about what they could achieve this season, why is this? I just don't see anything different to years gone by. Everton look like a narrowly top-half team, nothing more, but I just felt that a lot of Everton fans felt that this season they'd really push on. Is this my misconception, or is there some reason that I'm missing? I've seen nothing much in the way of strengthening in the summer, so why would they be better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Bit disappointed with the idea that we stifled Everton in the game by simply getting in faces and closing down etc. We played by far the better football overall, we hardly parked the bus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Bit disappointed with the idea that we stifled Everton in the game by simply getting in faces and closing down etc. We played by far the better football overall, we hardly parked the bus. totally agree. first half, yes we were closing down well etc - you wouldnt expect nothing less. but for long periods they simply couldnt get the ball off us. we were playing some fantastic football in their half, it had balls to do with getting in their faces, we simply played much better football than them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Bit disappointed with the idea that we stifled Everton in the game by simply getting in faces and closing down etc. We played by far the better football overall, we hardly parked the bus. That's true enough but our central midfield on the day was good enough to minimise the threat from Everton whilst still looking to create. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I think there's a pretty decent gap between us still, not monumental, but decent sized. Anyway, before the season started I got the feeling that a lot of Everton fans were confident about what they could achieve this season, why is this? I just don't see anything different to years gone by. Everton look like a narrowly top-half team, nothing more, but I just felt that a lot of Everton fans felt that this season they'd really push on. Is this my misconception, or is there some reason that I'm missing? I've seen nothing much in the way of strengthening in the summer, so why would they be better? Injuries. We have a fit squad this time around instead of every other player slipping over banana skins and knacking themselves like we had last season. We'll come good but it's ridiculously frustrating to start like we have, yet again. We should have beat Villa and Wolves but yesterday we were awful and deservedly got beat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I think there's a pretty decent gap between us still, not monumental, but decent sized. Anyway, before the season started I got the feeling that a lot of Everton fans were confident about what they could achieve this season, why is this? I just don't see anything different to years gone by. Everton look like a narrowly top-half team, nothing more, but I just felt that a lot of Everton fans felt that this season they'd really push on. Is this my misconception, or is there some reason that I'm missing? I've seen nothing much in the way of strengthening in the summer, so why would they be better? Injuries. We have a fit squad this time around instead of every other player slipping over banana skins and knacking themselves like we had last season. We'll come good but it's ridiculously frustrating to start like we have, yet again. We should have beat Villa and Wolves but yesterday we were awful and deservedly got beat. Yeah I suppose injuries have been a bit of a bitch to you, but you've not strengthened to cover for any potential injuries this season have you? So if a few players pick up knocks, what's the difference from last season? It'd help if you had someone who could score goals and not be massively injury prone / fat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 What Dave says is spot on,we went there not to hit on the break but to control possession,which we did.Our ball retention was as good as I've seen for years.Obviously not having Smith contributed to this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I think there's a pretty decent gap between us still, not monumental, but decent sized. Anyway, before the season started I got the feeling that a lot of Everton fans were confident about what they could achieve this season, why is this? I just don't see anything different to years gone by. Everton look like a narrowly top-half team, nothing more, but I just felt that a lot of Everton fans felt that this season they'd really push on. Is this my misconception, or is there some reason that I'm missing? I've seen nothing much in the way of strengthening in the summer, so why would they be better? Injuries. We have a fit squad this time around instead of every other player slipping over banana skins and knacking themselves like we had last season. We'll come good but it's ridiculously frustrating to start like we have, yet again. We should have beat Villa and Wolves but yesterday we were awful and deservedly got beat. Yeah I suppose injuries have been a bit of a bitch to you, but you've not strengthened to cover for any potential injuries this season have you? So if a few players pick up knocks, what's the difference from last season? It'd help if you had someone who could score goals and not be massively injury prone / fat. If the transfer budget was anymore than 37p and 2 packs of McCoys, I think Moyes would have gone and got a pretty good striker. As it is, we got 2 unknowns and Jermaine Beckford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Fwiw, I hold hope for Yakubu, SEMTEX. He's done alright in his last 2 appearances and shown signs of a bit of fight about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I think there's a pretty decent gap between us still, not monumental, but decent sized. Anyway, before the season started I got the feeling that a lot of Everton fans were confident about what they could achieve this season, why is this? I just don't see anything different to years gone by. Everton look like a narrowly top-half team, nothing more, but I just felt that a lot of Everton fans felt that this season they'd really push on. Is this my misconception, or is there some reason that I'm missing? I've seen nothing much in the way of strengthening in the summer, so why would they be better? Injuries. We have a fit squad this time around instead of every other player slipping over banana skins and knacking themselves like we had last season. We'll come good but it's ridiculously frustrating to start like we have, yet again. We should have beat Villa and Wolves but yesterday we were awful and deservedly got beat. Yeah I suppose injuries have been a bit of a bitch to you, but you've not strengthened to cover for any potential injuries this season have you? So if a few players pick up knocks, what's the difference from last season? It'd help if you had someone who could score goals and not be massively injury prone / fat. If the transfer budget was anymore than 37p and 2 packs of McCoys, I think Moyes would have gone and got a pretty good striker. As it is, we got 2 unknowns and Jermaine Beckford. Funnily enough, that's exactly what we're asking for Leon Best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Fwiw, I hold hope for Yakubu, SEMTEX. He's done alright in his last 2 appearances and shown signs of a bit of fight about him. He looked quite good last season, whenever I saw him. He needs to trim off a bit of the weight before he starts to threaten again like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Yep. Ultimately I guess it's whether the player really wants to make something of the next few years or just descend into shitness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Fwiw, I hold hope for Yakubu, SEMTEX. He's done alright in his last 2 appearances and shown signs of a bit of fight about him. Yakubu is certainly a good player to have, but I wouldn't ever want to rely on him as the number 1 striker. Too inconsistent for my liking. Saha might as well be dead and I've not seen enough of Beckford to write him off, but fuck it, he's shit. If you had that 1 consistent striker, I'd be a lot more confident that Everton could achieve something. God knows who you'd ever be able to get though, can't think of any cheap options, but tbh, cheap options and European qualification aren't really that compatible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Fwiw, I hold hope for Yakubu, SEMTEX. He's done alright in his last 2 appearances and shown signs of a bit of fight about him. Yakubu is certainly a good player to have, but I wouldn't ever want to rely on him as the number 1 striker. Too inconsistent for my liking. Saha might as well be dead and I've not seen enough of Beckford to write him off, but fuck it, he's shit. If you had that 1 consistent striker, I'd be a lot more confident that Everton could achieve something. God knows who you'd ever be able to get though, can't think of any cheap options, but tbh, cheap options and European qualification aren't really that compatible. I'm hopeful. If Marcus Bent can lead you to 4th, anything is possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Goals on Sunday is showing highlights again now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Bit disappointed with the idea that we stifled Everton in the game by simply getting in faces and closing down etc. We played by far the better football overall, we hardly parked the bus. Agree with that Dave - the 74 Dutch team were praised for being the inventors of 'Total Football' but although they played a great passing game,they were renowned for pressuring the opposition and winning the ball ; you have to HAVE the ball before you can play with it... We did that yesterday and whilst I'm NOT saying we play as well as Cruyff, Neeskens and co, we were the better footballing side, certainly for at least half of the game. We were crap last week, good this one - mainly because of two new players and a wholehearted team performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I've just looked at the stats. 90% of our tackles were successful. That's exceptional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 The ref gave them everything. We should have had a stone wall pen and Coleman and Fellaini both should have been sent off. Didn't matter in the end as we bossed them, but it just shows the inconsistency of Premier League refs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Kammy & eveyone else on goals on sunday says it was pen, so fuck you Horne. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 40-60 posession in the first half says we did a lot more than just 'stifle Everton'. It was one of the most dominant 45 minutes your likely to see from an away team against an apparantly "far superior" side this season. I'm happy for the fans of Everton & Villa et all to keep on considering us a Championship fodder, makes the 3 points all the more sweater. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 40-60 posession in the first half says we did a lot more than just 'stifle Everton'. It was one of the most dominant 45 minutes your likely to see from an away team against an apparantly "far superior" side this season. I'm happy for the fans of Everton & Villa et all to keep on considering us a Championship fodder, makes the 3 points all the more sweater. Who said that like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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