womblemaster Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 obviously am optimistic about this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 not too bothered really, shame as he was a nice bloke but there were some pretty obvious questions about his capabilities. i personally think his dismissal has as much to do with off the field stuff as results and performnces as the rumour mill has been in overdrive recently of players fighting, not taking any notice of hughton etc. pardew (whom i've backed at the bookies) would be a sideways step and i'd doubt he'd command much respect in the dressing room either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 shocked and angry with shock quickly turning to anger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 I'm completely apathetic now. Bullshit. This is what all sports are like. Angry. Confused. Angry. Can't believe we posted back to back and neither of us went for the obvious joke. How devastated are we?! Holy s***. You got lucky, Apisith! Ya c***s I'm confused as hell as well, but I have to say that apathy is the dominant emotion. I just don't know how much more you're supposed to take, how much more you have to wait before the payoff. I don't see it paying off in the medium-term, let alone the short. Supporting this club is just some sado-masochistic s***, man. At least let us have one good season so I could have a good summer, enjoy the transfer rumours, dream of us being back in Europe again. This past summer doesn't count because fear of relegation was what I felt. The payoff was going to be surviving this season and showing some potential. We can't even have that, man. Being a Knicks fan is good training for this shower of s***. Ashley is like Al Davis without the past to constantly live in. Dolan without the father. He's a mess. For the Knicks to compare to this shit, Amare would have to break his leg next week and D'Antoni would decide to quit after Melo gets traded to the Nets. And even then you don't have to worry about relegation and disappearing into nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 seems to be a cycle of sheer rage at ashley, then kind of sick/dizzy cos its so difficult to rationalise, then just apathy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 More apathetic than angry really. Annoyed but just have the sense that we've seen it all before. Most probably because we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 seems to be a cycle of sheer rage at ashley, then kind of sick/dizzy cos its so difficult to rationalise, then just apathy. That. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 I'm completely apathetic now. Bullshit. This is what all sports are like. Angry. Confused. Angry. Can't believe we posted back to back and neither of us went for the obvious joke. How devastated are we?! Holy s***. You got lucky, Apisith! Ya c***s I'm confused as hell as well, but I have to say that apathy is the dominant emotion. I just don't know how much more you're supposed to take, how much more you have to wait before the payoff. I don't see it paying off in the medium-term, let alone the short. Supporting this club is just some sado-masochistic s***, man. At least let us have one good season so I could have a good summer, enjoy the transfer rumours, dream of us being back in Europe again. This past summer doesn't count because fear of relegation was what I felt. The payoff was going to be surviving this season and showing some potential. We can't even have that, man. Being a Knicks fan is good training for this shower of s***. Ashley is like Al Davis without the past to constantly live in. Dolan without the father. He's a mess. For the Knicks to compare to this shit, Amare would have to break his leg next week and D'Antoni would decide to quit after Melo gets traded to the Nets. And even then you don't have to worry about relegation and disappearing into nothing. Layden. Isiah. Curry. Draft Picks. Allan Houston 100 million. Last ten years of Knicks history puts this stuff to shame. Relegation is better than being in the NBA, being shit and having no draft picks to improve the situation. But yeah as we were all saying...Fuck Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Ambivalence. Very much sit and look time for me. I'm willing to see what the board has planned and the real details of Christopher leaving the club. He's been a good servant, but NUFC will go on far into the future without his guidance. If there are problems caused at the club, they will not be because of this decision. Rather, they will occur because of the ones taken as a result. We need to get these right. Sacking a manager isn't always bad, it's often progress. I agree to some extent. For example, the Keegan fiasco - and ultimately relegation - could have easily been avoided had they redeemed themselves with a good replacement. However, they stuck with Kinnear and it was a total catastrophe. In terms of the immediate effect, both Hughton's and Keegan's departures share equal negativity. The supporters will be livid and the players will be gutted. But in spite of this, relgation can (and could have) been avoided. Pardew would be a nightmare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 In the grand scheme of things I'm not too bothered as he was never a top manager who would have us challenging at the top end of the league. Yeah he might be a nice fella who would have kept us up but I want more than that and I don't think he was the person to do it. Newcastle is too big a club to learn on the job which is what I often heard on here, there was a lot of “he should learn from his mistakes”, etc. There’s a whole lot of other clubs out there more suited to learning the art of management. Call me deluded if you want but it’s how I feel. Main reason I’m not too bothered is that I've been apathetic about Newcastle for a long time now as nothing will change whilst Ashley is in charge, simple as that really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 In the grand scheme of things I'm not too bothered as he was never a top manager who would have us challenging at the top end of the league. Yeah he might be a nice fella who would have kept us up but I want more than that and I don't think he was the person to do it. Newcastle is too big a club to learn on the job which is what I often heard on here, there was a lot of “he should learn from his mistakes”, etc. There’s a whole lot of other clubs out there more suited to learning the art of management. Call me deluded if you want but it’s how I feel. Main reason I’m not too bothered is that I've been apathetic about Newcastle for a long time now as nothing will change whilst Ashley is in charge, simple as that really. We're not a club that would challenge at the top end of the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 it just dosent hurt anymore 20 managers in my lifetime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Honestly, I just want to know why Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Cautious at the moment, lets wait to see if the man has a plan, but if it becomes apparent that there never was one, or it's an appointment like Pardew, I'll become pretty angry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 In the grand scheme of things I'm not too bothered as he was never a top manager who would have us challenging at the top end of the league. Yeah he might be a nice fella who would have kept us up but I want more than that and I don't think he was the person to do it. Newcastle is too big a club to learn on the job which is what I often heard on here, there was a lot of he should learn from his mistakes, etc. Theres a whole lot of other clubs out there more suited to learning the art of management. Call me deluded if you want but its how I feel. Main reason Im not too bothered is that I've been apathetic about Newcastle for a long time now as nothing will change whilst Ashley is in charge, simple as that really. We're not a club that would challenge at the top end of the league. We've done it twice in recent times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 In the grand scheme of things I'm not too bothered as he was never a top manager who would have us challenging at the top end of the league. Yeah he might be a nice fella who would have kept us up but I want more than that and I don't think he was the person to do it. Newcastle is too big a club to learn on the job which is what I often heard on here, there was a lot of “he should learn from his mistakes”, etc. There’s a whole lot of other clubs out there more suited to learning the art of management. Call me deluded if you want but it’s how I feel. Main reason I’m not too bothered is that I've been apathetic about Newcastle for a long time now as nothing will change whilst Ashley is in charge, simple as that really. Sure. You're incredibly deluded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 I thought he showed that he was growing into the job, that he was willing to change and adapt the team, that he had an open mind regarding the players, the tactics, our style of play. He showed me what the very best managers have, and it's something that none of our managers since SBR had. All the great managers start from somewhere. Hughton showed intelligence, and that's such a rare quality for a football manager. I think he'll go on to better things from here because he has the skills necessary. I think he could have turned us into a top side, given the requisite financial backing. I don't think he's a mediocre manager who was only ever going to get us to mid-table security, but he showed a willingness to change, and that was/is what we require if we're going to become a better team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Angry, very, very angry. Does he not realise part of the reason we got relegated was because we had 4 different managers in one season? We're mid-table ffs, FUCK. Ugh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Pardew would be such a fucking nightmare because everyone knows that he's a Souness/Curbishley/Kinnear/Wilkinson type. He'll get us relegated this year or next and be sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Honestly, I just want to know why It's all about money. Currency. Accounts. That's what it is always about, when you have to wonder why. Unless he's been caught with Ashely's daughter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Angry, very, very angry. Does he not realise part of the reason we got relegated was because we had 4 different managers in one season? We're mid-table ffs, f***. Ugh. Midtable is deceiving. We're four point above relegation zone and just had our worst defeat of the season to a fellow promoted team. We're hardly in a good place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Angry, very, very angry. Does he not realise part of the reason we got relegated was because we had 4 different managers in one season? We're mid-table ffs, f***. Ugh. Midtable is deceiving. We're four point above relegation zone and just had our worst defeat of the season to a fellow promoted team. We're hardly in a good place. We're in a decent enough place tbh, enough to justify him keeping his job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Angry, very, very angry. Does he not realise part of the reason we got relegated was because we had 4 different managers in one season? We're mid-table ffs, f***. Ugh. Midtable is deceiving. We're four point above relegation zone and just had our worst defeat of the season to a fellow promoted team. We're hardly in a good place. If 4 points above the relegation places after 16 games isn't good for a newly promoted team, then what is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 In the grand scheme of things I'm not too bothered as he was never a top manager who would have us challenging at the top end of the league. Yeah he might be a nice fella who would have kept us up but I want more than that and I don't think he was the person to do it. Newcastle is too big a club to learn on the job which is what I often heard on here, there was a lot of “he should learn from his mistakes”, etc. There’s a whole lot of other clubs out there more suited to learning the art of management. Call me deluded if you want but it’s how I feel. Main reason I’m not too bothered is that I've been apathetic about Newcastle for a long time now as nothing will change whilst Ashley is in charge, simple as that really. in the grand scheme of things - you're probably right - he's not a mourinho and probably wasnt going to take us on to great things, silverware, champion's league etc. but for our immediate concerns, he was just fine. we have to judge on the here and now - Hughton was doing a decent job and we needed stability. the problem with replacing a manager after a controversial exit is that the exit itself precludes the possibility of going out and getting a good manager. who wanted to be robson's successor? souness was something like 8th choice. who would come to the club after the way Keegan had been treated, with the club in limbo? no-one. who will want to work for ashley after this is how he repays Hughton's good work? then you add to that disincentive the fact that Ashley has zero sense of expertise when it comes to dealing with or appointing managers. it all adds up to a depressing outlook and someone like Pardew coming along. The only way i would ever excuse treating Hughton so badly and causing a lot of internal strife at the club would be if we went out and got a top class manager. To kick up all this trouble there should be a very, very good reason for it - an end result which justifies short term mess. But the likelihood is that Hughton was offed cos Ashley wasn't prepared to pay the going rate. with that in mind it is unlikely Ashley has the ambition, foresight or intention to spend an extravagant amount on a top manager, or the good sense and proportion to give that manager full control of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Confuzed at the situation. Gutted for Hughton, the club and the players. Angry at Ashely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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