David28 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Needs to get his half time team talk as pre match talk and we actually could start a match well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Well done Alan Didn't disagree one bit with his selection, gosling and Ba particularly failed to do themselves justice. Created energy in the team when he had to which made the difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Third game in a row where we've failed to come out the blocks, this needs to get sorted otherwise we'll find ourselves 2 or 3 down in the first half against better teams. Obviously gave them a bollocking at half time and the subs were spot on, so credit for that. As others have said though, Lovenkrands wide right was a bit I quite like him TBH, "The Ameobi's are well and dusted at this club" or something like that, he has such an odd turn of phrase and always has me laughing. Not quite sure what this new style we're supposed to be implementing is though? I know we've barely started the season, but we're playing more long ball than we did with Carroll in the team. The two best technical players on the pitch, Cabaye and Marveaux were constantly doing it last night, Simpson seems to be stuck on hoof mode and Raylor loves a long punt upfield as well. Would have thought trying to outpass and outplay a League One side would be a good idea, but it was shit to watch at times. Got a feeling Sunday we will look to get the ball on the deck a bit more, bloody hope we do! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearMagic Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Ryan Taylor and Danny Simpson simply aren't cut out for possession football. Ridiculous statement. They're not ball-playing defenders and panic under pressure. Not the people I'd want playing the ball out of my defence tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Ryan Taylor and Danny Simpson simply aren't cut out for possession football. Ridiculous statement. They're not ball-playing defenders and panic under pressure. Not the people I'd want playing the ball out of my defence tbh. I think everyone relaxed when Saylor came on for Williamson, I was actually happy the clumsey excuse got injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I think Pardew bashers would have hammered him either way tonight: Play an experienced line up: FFS Pardew, give the kids a chance! Play the kids: FFS Pardew, take the competition seriously, we've won nowt since 1969! Well, considering I want the club to give this competition a real go this season (Birmingham ffs!), I was happy that he fielded an experienced side last night. The kids coming on and doing well was a bonus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 His subs were pretty good last night. Exactly the right players to bring on, lots of energy and a bit of craft about them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I think Pardew bashers would have hammered him either way tonight: Play an experienced line up: FFS Pardew, give the kids a chance! Play the kids: FFS Pardew, take the competition seriously, we've won nowt since 1969! Well, considering I want the club to give this competition a real go this season (Birmingham ffs!), I was happy that he fielded an experienced side last night. The kids coming on and doing well was a bonus. FA- and Carling cup are opportunities for our youth..If we start to field an experienced side in every cup game, it will cause a shit storm injury wise..That's exactly why Birmingham was relegated..All those matches resulted in a massive injury list..If they had to choose between staying up and winning the cup, I think their choice is pretty obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Deserves a lot of credit for not allowing Smith to go near the pitch. I'd like to think we'd have seen Shane Ferguson in some capacity too, had we not needed to replace Williamson through injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 That how it is everywhere surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 He's used that line a couple of lines now. IMO for 2 reasons It's deflects criticism away from him if signings don't happen The board have told him to stop with the 'before xxx game' comments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 He's used that line a couple of lines now. IMO for 2 reasons It's deflects criticism away from him if signings don't happen The board have told him to stop with the 'before xxx game' comments He also may have used that line because it's true.....He doesn't have any handle on Ashley's money, and that's the way it is at virtually every club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 He's used that line a couple of lines now. IMO for 2 reasons It's deflects criticism away from him if signings don't happen The board have told him to stop with the 'before xxx game' comments If signings don't happen, Ashley is the one to blame. He's pretty much saying the truth (for once). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 It's not really news, almost every manager in the league is probably in exactly the same situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 There is no game from us, nothing, which is worrying. We don't play to any kind of system or way. We have the players and seemingly spirit and confidence to pass it about a bit and try and force our game onto the opposition/match but in each of our 3 games thus far the opposition have easily out performed us from the start. To his and the side's credit we seem to get stronger as the game goes on but we simply cannot carry on in this way. We were awful last night as a team and relied on a cameo appearance from a few of our youngsters. The starting lineup was all wrong, the tactics, everything. We should be beating Scunthorpe with ease rather than making it damned hard for ourselves. Yes they played well and deserve praise but with the right lineup, tactics and game plan we should be beating them comfortably. I fear that Pardew doesn't quite know how to prepare the team and is more of a reactionary type of manager who does best when having to react to situations. Our performances have to improve and vastly so if we are to do anything this season. We've made a good start though and he deserves some credit as the manager. The players are clearly playing for him at least which is encouraging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 There is no game from us, nothing, which is worrying. We don't play to any kind of system or way. We have the players and seemingly spirit and confidence to pass it about a bit and try and force our game onto the opposition/match but in each of our 3 games thus far the opposition have easily out performed us from the start. In those 3 games we've played Arsenal, who despite not being the same team as they were are still streets ahead of us, Sunderland where the impetus was on the home team to go all out, particularly after last year and is the case in most derbies, while how often do you see a lower league side take it to their Premier League opposition at home in a cup game? All three times, we've came through it. There's definitely something to say for that. In terms of style of play, Fulham is where I'll start to judge, I want to at least see some sort of pattern or structure of what we're working towards even if we're not there yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I was gonna say. I think your game against Fulham may be quite telling. It's a winnable home game, and the impetus will be on you to attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 There is no game from us, nothing, which is worrying. We don't play to any kind of system or way. We have the players and seemingly spirit and confidence to pass it about a bit and try and force our game onto the opposition/match but in each of our 3 games thus far the opposition have easily out performed us from the start. In those 3 games we've played Arsenal, who despite not being the same team as they were are still streets ahead of us, Sunderland where the impetus was on the home team to go all out, particularly after last year and is the case in most derbies, while how often do you see a lower league side take it to their Premier League opposition at home in a cup game? All three times, we've came through it. There's definitely something to say for that. In terms of style of play, Fulham is where I'll start to judge, I want to at least see some sort of pattern or structure of what we're working towards even if we're not there yet. Aye, against arsenal most team dont get much of the ball, making it difficult to get any real patter of play togethor or to implement a game plan. Derby games are normally scrappy affairs which have plenty of passion and tough tackles but no real quality play...hopefully against fulham we will see pardews new team + tactics implemented properly for the first time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I was gonna say. I think your game against Fulham may be quite telling. It's a winnable home game, and the impetus will be on you to attack. We're dogshite when that happens If a team sits deep against us, they've won. We pass it sideways, try a few punts, which they mop up with their gargantuan Hangeland of a defender (and in this case, it is Hangeland ), we pass it sideways, we realise we lack penetration to break down a side that sits back, we get flustered, the crowd gets panicky, we surrender possession at the back, they score, we lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I was gonna say. I think your game against Fulham may be quite telling. It's a winnable home game, and the impetus will be on you to attack. We're dogshite when that happens If a team sits deep against us, they've won. We pass it sideways, try a few punts, which they mop up with their gargantuan Hangeland of a defender (and in this case, it is Hangeland ), we pass it sideways, we realise we lack penetration to break down a side that sits back, we get flustered, the crowd gets panicky, we surrender possession at the back, they score, we lose. Yep. Happens time and time again. Seen Newcastle do this as well. Seriously man, we do this so many times. Case in point - a whole 6 days ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I was gonna say. I think your game against Fulham may be quite telling. It's a winnable home game, and the impetus will be on you to attack. We're dogshite when that happens If a team sits deep against us, they've won. We pass it sideways, try a few punts, which they mop up with their gargantuan Hangeland of a defender (and in this case, it is Hangeland ), we pass it sideways, we realise we lack penetration to break down a side that sits back, we get flustered, the crowd gets panicky, we surrender possession at the back, they score, we lose. This is what we're talking about though. We need to show a change in style from last year so we don't repeat the likes of Blackpool, Stoke, Blackburn, etc. Sunday is the first real chance we'll get to see if anything has changed or looks like changing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Pardew has done fantastically well Scunthorpe in front of a tv audience played their hearts out and still lost. We won a match that last season and for as long as I can remember we would have lost The guy has no say on transfers whotsoever and fills the 'manages and coaches the team' role ( apparently what Kk was supposed to do), very well In the current situation he really is the best we can ask for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 We've only lost 7 out of 24 league games with him as manager. Granted there's been a shitload of draws in there as well, but average that out over a season you're looking at 10-12 defeats which is what the clubs around 6th & 7th got last season. Definitely something to build on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 "When I first arrived I remember the staff saying to me: 'We've got a really good young player but he's injured at the moment,'" Pardew said. "This tall, nice, Slovenian guy [Vuckic] kept passing me in the corridor and smiling. Haris is such a nice guy. "He's a lovely boy [who] we've got big hopes for; he's got tremendous technique. Haris needs to learn to cope with the physical demands of the Premier League but he's only 19 and his potential is excellent. He's got a really clever pass on him. It's a pass about 85% of Premier League footballers couldn't even see." "We're very excited about Sammy," said Pardew. "He's going to be a big player and it helps that his big brother and his parents look after him very well." Although Pardew clearly needs two or three more experienced first-team reinforcements he is anxious "not to block the route" for Beardsley's proteges. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/27/alan-pardew-newcastle-ameobi-vuckic Promising quotes from him - appreciated the irony of the Vuckic comments. It's like Enrique all over again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 "When I first arrived I remember the staff saying to me: 'We've got a really good young player but he's injured at the moment,'" Pardew said. "This tall, nice, Slovenian guy [Vuckic] kept passing me in the corridor and smiling. Haris is such a nice guy. "He's a lovely boy [who] we've got big hopes for; he's got tremendous technique. Haris needs to learn to cope with the physical demands of the Premier League but he's only 19 and his potential is excellent. He's got a really clever pass on him. It's a pass about 85% of Premier League footballers couldn't even see." "We're very excited about Sammy," said Pardew. "He's going to be a big player and it helps that his big brother and his parents look after him very well." Although Pardew clearly needs two or three more experienced first-team reinforcements he is anxious "not to block the route" for Beardsley's proteges. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/27/alan-pardew-newcastle-ameobi-vuckic Promising quotes from him - appreciated the irony of the Vuckic comments. It's like Enrique all over again The quotes are promising, pity he doesn't back his words up with actions as both should have started the game on Thursday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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