Lush Vlad Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Probably all been said before, but AP was due a howler and this was it. I accept his hands were tied a bit with the injuries, but he got it so wrong it was unreal. Starting Shola, Perch and Simpson as centre backs, Obertan lasting for as long as he did, totally wasting all 3 subs. Really was a poor day at the office. No win in 4 now (granted 3 games against the SKY 4), with two supposedly winnable home games coming up. Will be interesting to see how he reacts to all this. A lot of injuries and confidence must be a bit dented. Everyone knew we'd have a bit of an injury crisis and a mini slump in form, Pardew has to earn his money know and sort it out. If we don't get 4-6 points from the next two games we're struggling, regardless of injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Probably all been said before, but AP was due a howler and this was it. I accept his hands were tied a bit with the injuries, but he got it so wrong it was unreal. Starting Shola, Perch and Simpson as centre backs, Obertan lasting for as long as he did, totally wasting all 3 subs. Really was a poor day at the office. I know he came back to defend set-pieces, but Shola was actually playing up front with Ba Everyone knew we'd have a bit of an injury crisis and a mini slump in form, Pardew has to earn his money know and sort it out. If we don't get 4-6 points from the next two games we're struggling, regardless of injuries. Even if we lost the next two games, we'd be minimum 8th with 26pts from 17 games. Is that really a sign of a 'struggling' season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Probably all been said before, but AP was due a howler and this was it. I accept his hands were tied a bit with the injuries, but he got it so wrong it was unreal. Starting Shola, Perch and Simpson as centre backs, Obertan lasting for as long as he did, totally wasting all 3 subs. Really was a poor day at the office. I know he came back to defend set-pieces, but Shola was actually playing up front with Ba Everyone knew we'd have a bit of an injury crisis and a mini slump in form, Pardew has to earn his money know and sort it out. If we don't get 4-6 points from the next two games we're struggling, regardless of injuries. Even if we lost the next two games, we'd be minimum 8th with 26pts from 17 games. Is that really a sign of a 'struggling' season? Say we don't beat Swansea or WBA, we would be going into an away game with Bolton, with no win in 6, struggling with injuries and confidence at rock bottom. ACN and the dreaded transfer window looming and so would back to back games against Liverpool and Man U. I would say we'd be struggling if we don't get 4 points as a minimum from the next two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 The relegated teams at this stage last season were on 22pts Blackpool, 18pts - Birmingham and 12pts - West Ham United. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 The relegated teams at this stage last season were on 22pts Blackpool, 18pts - Birmingham and 12pts - West Ham United. That's wonderful, what is your point old boy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I honestly have no idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 We wouldn't be struggling to do anything if we don't get 4-6 points from the next 2 games, except maybe struggling to stay in the top 8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Say we don't beat Swansea or WBA, we would be going into an away game with Bolton, with no win in 6, struggling with injuries and confidence at rock bottom. ACN and the dreaded transfer window looming and so would back to back games against Liverpool and Man U. I would say we'd be struggling if we don't get 4 points as a minimum from the next two. Why would confidence be rock bottom if we don't get 4 points from the next two? We won't suddenly fall down the league unless you just love a bit of melodrama? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I honestly have no idea. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Say we don't beat Swansea or WBA, we would be going into an away game with Bolton, with no win in 6, struggling with injuries and confidence at rock bottom. ACN and the dreaded transfer window looming and so would back to back games against Liverpool and Man U. I would say we'd be struggling if we don't get 4 points as a minimum from the next two. Why would confidence be rock bottom if we don't get 4 points from the next two? We won't suddenly fall down the league unless you just love a bit of melodrama? More to do with the fact the next two games are against Swansea who have a poor away record so far and West Brom who recently lost to Wigan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Say we don't beat Swansea or WBA, we would be going into an away game with Bolton, with no win in 6, struggling with injuries and confidence at rock bottom. ACN and the dreaded transfer window looming and so would back to back games against Liverpool and Man U. I would say we'd be struggling if we don't get 4 points as a minimum from the next two. Why would confidence be rock bottom if we don't get 4 points from the next two? We won't suddenly fall down the league unless you just love a bit of melodrama? More to do with the fact the next two games are against Swansea who have a poor away record so far and West Brom who recently lost to Wigan. This is the Premier League - anyteam (bar the 'top 4/6') can beat each other on any given day, hell, even the mackems came from behind to win a game yesterday. I really we're not going to have large swathes of the crowd 'expecting' wins again when we're only 18months back into the top flight (and only 3 months away from the end of the transfer window when we were written off by a fair majority on here and in the media) it was bad enough under Shepherd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Pardew can't really be faulted for this scenario. If we have Cheik, Colo and Williamson back for Liverpool & Man Utd I don't fear those games one bit. After Man Utd away we'd played well and many expected us to beat Chelsea. Solid performance and freak luck in terms of injuries - and suddenly confidence is shot? I think these players are very confident in their ability considering our start to the season. We'll be back firing on all cylinders very soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Say we don't beat Swansea or WBA, we would be going into an away game with Bolton, with no win in 6, struggling with injuries and confidence at rock bottom. ACN and the dreaded transfer window looming and so would back to back games against Liverpool and Man U. I would say we'd be struggling if we don't get 4 points as a minimum from the next two. Why would confidence be rock bottom if we don't get 4 points from the next two? We won't suddenly fall down the league unless you just love a bit of melodrama? More to do with the fact the next two games are against Swansea who have a poor away record so far and West Brom who recently lost to Wigan. This is the Premier League - anyteam (bar the 'top 4/6') can beat each other on any given day, hell, even the mackems came from behind to win a game yesterday. I really we're not going to have large swathes of the crowd 'expecting' wins again when we're only 18months back into the top flight (and only 3 months away from the end of the transfer window when we were written off by a fair majority on here and in the media) it was bad enough under Shepherd The Mackems came from behind to beat Blackburn, hardly a momentous game. I'd say it's fair to expect to get 4-6 points from Norwich, Swansea and West Brom. If you expect any less then that's pretty much relegation standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Pardew can't really be faulted for this scenario. If we have Cheik, Colo and Williamson back for Liverpool & Man Utd I don't fear those games one bit. After Man Utd away we'd played well and many expected us to beat Chelsea. Solid performance and freak luck in terms of injuries - and suddenly confidence is shot? I think these players are very confident in their ability considering our start to the season. We'll be back firing on all cylinders very soon. Totally agree. Any game where we have two below-average fullbacks playing centre half we would probably lose. That's a fact, whether Pardew or Sir Alex Ferguson is in charge. It's a blow to have lost to Norwich, but when he have Colo and Tiote back we'll start winning again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 It can't be underestimated the effect that having two "big" players like Colo and Tiote will do for the side, not merely in the technical side of things but just as a general shot in the arm to the other players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 On the 12 days of Christmas my Toon love gave to me: 12 Dembas dancing 11 Kruls keeping 10 Leons leaping 9 Dannys dazzling 8 Ryans rasping 7 Jonas jinking 6 Taylors tackling 5 go-oal wins! 4 Colo curls 3 French men 2 local bruvs and a Pardew in a pear tree. http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1757/89027424.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TaylorJ_01 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Incase you think Dave has went mental/gay, check the NWOAT thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 On the 12 days of Christmas my Toon love gave to me: 12 Dembas dancing 11 Kruls keeping 10 Leons leaping 9 Dannys dazzling 8 Santons starting 7 Jonas jinking 6 Taylors tackling 5 go-oal wins! 4 Colo curls 3 French men 2 local bruvs and a Pardew in a pear tree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 This is the Premier League - anyteam (bar the 'top 4/6') can beat each other on any given day, hell, even the mackems came from behind to win a game yesterday. I really we're not going to have large swathes of the crowd 'expecting' wins again when we're only 18months back into the top flight (and only 3 months away from the end of the transfer window when we were written off by a fair majority on here and in the media) it was bad enough under Shepherd The Mackems came from behind to beat Blackburn, hardly a momentous game. I'd say it's fair to expect to get 4-6 points from Norwich, Swansea and West Brom. If you expect any less then that's pretty much relegation standard. The Mackems won only their 4th home league game in 2011, despite being 1-0 down at HT. That's one of the more remarkable results of the weekend (against a team that had scored 4 the previous week). If we picked up 3 points from Norwich, Swansea and West Brom, it's not "pretty much relegation material" it's three games out of 38. We've already done really well this season, a dip in form is to be expected - the fact that we've been without several key first team players is a silver lining. What's with your ridiculous attitude towards other teams in the league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/8946288/Newcastle-United-manager-Alan-Pardew-proves-a-year-is-a-long-time-in-football-at-St-James-Park.html nice read from last week... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Readers were asked to vote on who they wanted to succeed Hughton. Martin O'Neill was the runaway winner on 42.3 per cent, leaving Pardew trailing on a paltry 1.8 per cent. Gazza, who was in rehab at the time, only received 16 fewer votes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 This is the Premier League - anyteam (bar the 'top 4/6') can beat each other on any given day, hell, even the mackems came from behind to win a game yesterday. I really we're not going to have large swathes of the crowd 'expecting' wins again when we're only 18months back into the top flight (and only 3 months away from the end of the transfer window when we were written off by a fair majority on here and in the media) it was bad enough under Shepherd The Mackems came from behind to beat Blackburn, hardly a momentous game. I'd say it's fair to expect to get 4-6 points from Norwich, Swansea and West Brom. If you expect any less then that's pretty much relegation standard. The Mackems won only their 4th home league game in 2011, despite being 1-0 down at HT. That's one of the more remarkable results of the weekend (against a team that had scored 4 the previous week). If we picked up 3 points from Norwich, Swansea and West Brom, it's not "pretty much relegation material" it's three games out of 38. We've already done really well this season, a dip in form is to be expected - the fact that we've been without several key first team players is a silver lining. What's with your ridiculous attitude towards other teams in the league? It's not a ridiculous attitude man I just think we should aim to pick up points against newly promoted teams, regardless of injuries, how is that hard to fathom? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 This is the Premier League - anyteam (bar the 'top 4/6') can beat each other on any given day, hell, even the mackems came from behind to win a game yesterday. I really we're not going to have large swathes of the crowd 'expecting' wins again when we're only 18months back into the top flight (and only 3 months away from the end of the transfer window when we were written off by a fair majority on here and in the media) it was bad enough under Shepherd The Mackems came from behind to beat Blackburn, hardly a momentous game. I'd say it's fair to expect to get 4-6 points from Norwich, Swansea and West Brom. If you expect any less then that's pretty much relegation standard. The Mackems won only their 4th home league game in 2011, despite being 1-0 down at HT. That's one of the more remarkable results of the weekend (against a team that had scored 4 the previous week). If we picked up 3 points from Norwich, Swansea and West Brom, it's not "pretty much relegation material" it's three games out of 38. We've already done really well this season, a dip in form is to be expected - the fact that we've been without several key first team players is a silver lining. What's with your ridiculous attitude towards other teams in the league? It's not a ridiculous attitude man I just think we should aim to pick up points against newly promoted teams, regardless of injuries, how is that hard to fathom? Why bother? He's clearly on the wind-up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 This is the Premier League - anyteam (bar the 'top 4/6') can beat each other on any given day, hell, even the mackems came from behind to win a game yesterday. I really we're not going to have large swathes of the crowd 'expecting' wins again when we're only 18months back into the top flight (and only 3 months away from the end of the transfer window when we were written off by a fair majority on here and in the media) it was bad enough under Shepherd The Mackems came from behind to beat Blackburn, hardly a momentous game. I'd say it's fair to expect to get 4-6 points from Norwich, Swansea and West Brom. If you expect any less then that's pretty much relegation standard. The Mackems won only their 4th home league game in 2011, despite being 1-0 down at HT. That's one of the more remarkable results of the weekend (against a team that had scored 4 the previous week). If we picked up 3 points from Norwich, Swansea and West Brom, it's not "pretty much relegation material" it's three games out of 38. We've already done really well this season, a dip in form is to be expected - the fact that we've been without several key first team players is a silver lining. What's with your ridiculous attitude towards other teams in the league? It's not a ridiculous attitude man I just think we should aim to pick up points against newly promoted teams, regardless of injuries, how is that hard to fathom? Big difference between "aiming" to pick up 4-6 points and "expecting" to pick up 4-6 points. Which was the point I was making, if you get my point. NEEJ - have a word with yourself, you're not Hansel or Gretal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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