quayside Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 RE the Daily Mail - It looks like the players completely spoiled that piece by winning the game. Kevin Nolan gave a very good interview on MOTD. After saying how disappointed they all were to lose Chris, he said that Ashley as the owner has to make tough decisions, and he appreciated the fact that he met all the players to explain his reasoning. Very few think it was the right decision, but it was certainly a bold one. He would have known what the reaction would be. Not according to Joey Barton. I may have got it wrong but I didn't think Barton was saying there wasn't any reasoning offered just that the reasoning that was offered might be bollox. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 He seems to have made a solid start. Hasn't really done anything wrong as far as I can tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 He seems to have made a solid start. Hasn't really done anything wrong as far as I can tell. Pretty much spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I certainly won't be singing his name, but won't approach him with the hatred I instantly reacted with. This has nothing to do with the result today - well it does, to the extent that it suggests the players are willing to give him a chance, so so should I. Also the player interviews and comments from other managers e.g. KK who reckon he's a decent guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 He seems to have made a solid start. Hasn't really done anything wrong as far as I can tell. nope handled the media stuff well on his first day, handled today rather well too in a pr sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 p.s. http://imgur.com/42lBD.gif make :pardew: happen ,dave We need this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 It's such a look of satisfied approval. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 RE the Daily Mail - It looks like the players completely spoiled that piece by winning the game. Kevin Nolan gave a very good interview on MOTD. After saying how disappointed they all were to lose Chris, he said that Ashley as the owner has to make tough decisions, and he appreciated the fact that he met all the players to explain his reasoning. Very few think it was the right decision, but it was certainly a bold one. He would have known what the reaction would be. Not according to Joey Barton. I may have got it wrong but I didn't think Barton was saying there wasn't any reasoning offered just that the reasoning that was offered might be bollox. I may have miss heard it but didn't Barton say that it was Llambias who spoke to them, not Ashley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Good start for him. I agree that he has handled this well so far. We have no choice but to get behind him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 W O W. I go away to Jamaica for a week, a week without internet, and this is what happens. This is some shock to me, all this, although I did hear about the Hughton sacking on Wednesday. Getting a huge coffee and staying up all night reading all the threads, and hope to post some feelings in the 'death to Ashley' threads (hope there are some). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 He said: ‘You can’t work with these people. You can’t trust them. They tell you one thing and mean another... Mike Ashley doesn’t know anything about football and Derek Llambias knows even less than him. So you’ve got two people running the club who know nothing.’ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1337850/Patrick-Collins-Chris-Hughton-Newcastle-United-hero-Batman-Robin-upstairs.html get in Keegan! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 From the MotD interview from Nolan he said 'he came down to say he had to make a tough decision' which suggests to me it was probably prematch in the ground where Ashley spoke to the players. Barton might have been referring to a meeting on Friday with Llambias. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 From the MotD interview from Nolan he said 'he came down to say he had to make a tough decision' which suggests to me it was probably prematch in the ground where Ashley spoke to the players. Barton might have been referring to a meeting on Friday with Llambias. I doubt that it was prematch in the ground. Just before the game wouldn't have been good timing. Perhaps it was both Llambias and Ashley that spoke to the players. Ashley does show up at the training ground to meet the players on a fairly regular basis, from what I can tell. I'll say this for Ashley, and it won't go down well. Whilst I didn't agree with the decision, at least he had the balls to make it, to face the players with it, and to turn up for the next home game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ykmkmdd Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 In the full Nolan interview on the BBC website he clarifies that it was Llambias who spoke to the players, not Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 In the full Nolan interview on the BBC website he clarifies that it was Llambias who spoke to the players, not Ashley. I can confirm that. As well as that when Llambias told the players Hughton was sacked you could hear the shouting at Llambias from outside the training ground dressing room, an apparently Barotn was going mad. And apparently Hughton got sacked because Ashley couldn't trust him in the transfer market, Hughton was a good coach but not a manger and too soft on the players since Calderwood left. Apparently Calderwood was the disciplinarian. I'm an ITK now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 In the full Nolan interview on the BBC website he clarifies that it was Llambias who spoke to the players, not Ashley. I can confirm that. As well as that when Llambias told the players Hughton was sacked you could hear the shouting at Llambias from outside the training ground dressing room, an apparently Barotn was going mad. And apparently Hughton got sacked because Ashley couldn't trust him in the transfer market, Hughton was a good coach but not a manger and too soft on the players since Calderwood left. Apparently Calderwood was the disciplinarian. I'm an ITK now! Did Llambias tell them that? "He's too easy on you lazy cunts" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrSundlofer Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Our London lawyers told us two weeks ago that Pardew was being lined up, to the extend that a draft contract was in place. I can only guess from that they they have prepared it. I refused to believe it but I am not sure all of a sudden... And from Sky Sports today: Alan Pardew insists he never agreed to become Newcastle United manager before Chris Hughton was sacked. Hughton was given the boot by the Magpies on Monday and was replaced at St James' Park by Pardew three days later. However, there have been rumours that Pardew's appointment as Newcastle boss had been lined up several weeks ago. Speaking after a 3-1 home win over Liverpool in his first game in charge, Pardew stressed there was no previous agreement to take over on Tyneside. "That was never true," said Pardew in response to the claims. "In terms of myself, I never really had any contact about this job or any other job. It's a weird situation." I think Pardew had no contact with Llambias, Ashley or someone else in the Newcastle United board about the job... but I think his agent had and Pardew knew all about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 And the spin begins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number09 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I have to say, going off his pre and post match comments today (and the players comments), I'm willing to give him a chance. This isn't based on the result, but more the way he handled the questions today, and the way the players seemed to respect him. I thought his post match interview with the BBC was pretty much perfectly handled (apart from him saying taking the "balls of the bull" ). The next 3 or 4 games will go a long way to giving the fans confidence in him, but I think the right and proper thing for us to do in this situation is support him and the team, and only direct the anger towards the owner. 100% agreed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Well Barton said in the Talksport interview that Llambias has told them their reasons and they have no choice but to accept they are telling the truth - which kind of implied that he didn't think they were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 to be honest i think it all comes down to what happens next summer. if we sell off players in form and worth money, i.e Carroll and Enrique and one or two others, and replace them with cheaper players (as i expect) then we'll know why he's been brought in. if this doesn't happen and we renew contracts of Barton and Enrique, bring in some more depth and get rid of a bit of dead wood, i'll hold my hands up and say i'm wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 to be honest i think it all comes down to what happens next summer. if we sell off players in form and worth money, i.e Carroll and Enrique and one or two others, and replace them with cheaper players (as i expect) then we'll know why he's been brought in. if this doesn't happen and we renew contracts of Barton and Enrique, bring in some more depth and get rid of a bit of dead wood, i'll hold my hands up and say i'm wrong. 100% agree. That's what i'm worried about. But Pardew did say he wanted to build an attacking team around Carroll, Barton and Hatem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 to be honest i think it all comes down to what happens next summer. if we sell off players in form and worth money, i.e Carroll and Enrique and one or two others, and replace them with cheaper players (as i expect) then we'll know why he's been brought in. if this doesn't happen and we renew contracts of Barton and Enrique, bring in some more depth and get rid of a bit of dead wood, i'll hold my hands up and say i'm wrong. 100% agree. That's what i'm worried about. But Pardew did say he wanted to build an attacking team around Carroll, Barton and Hatem that would be nice mate but unfortunately for the last few years nufc has only been about what one man wants, and it's not alan partdewridge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 In the full Nolan interview on the BBC website he clarifies that it was Llambias who spoke to the players, not Ashley. Fair enough. I think my general point is valid though - that the decision took some courage and that they haven't hidden themselves away from the reaction. It's an unusual type of decision in that normally owners only make a change when things start to go wrong. They very rarely back themselves to bring in someone new pro-actively. So many of Ashley's decisions have been reactive to events around him. Even bringing in Keegan - which was the only remotely pro-active one - had a whiff of panic about it and pleasing others rather than backing his own beliefs. In the current wave of criticism, all his decisions tend to be lumped together, but in this one he's really put his neck on the line and stamped his own judgement on the situation. It's a gamble, but I suspect that, in his thinking, putting Hughton in charge long-term was also a gamble. He now feels that, if he's going to lose, it'd be better to lose having backed himself rather than going with the flow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 http://bit.ly/hxLmRi Newcastle United supporters have named Alan Pardew the club’s best ever manager just days after the former Southampton boss took up the St James’s Park hotseat. Pardew, who is marginally less boring than predecessor Chris Hughton, saw his side defeat Liverpool 3-1 on Saturday and beat Bobby Robson and Kevin Keegan to be named the greatest boss to manage the Geordies in an online poll. When he was appointed last Thursday Pardew’s managerial credentials were called into question in some quarters, but a few choice words ahead of Saturday’s televised match have won over skeptical fans. “We’re told he popped his head round the dressing room door and called Andy Carroll’s pint a poof,” said Newcastle Supporters’ Association chief Kevin Coates. “You could see Andy was fired up and he hit the Toon’s third like a rocket. That’s brilliant management.” It is understood that Pardew is living in Kevin Nolan’s garage with Andy Carroll, two boxer dogs and the entire staff of Newcastle city centre stripclub Blue Velvet while he finds new digs. And his new landlord and room-mate were on target for the Magpies as they beat a Liverpool side that looked pissed, even compared to tight-shorted Newcastle defender Sol Campbell. Some Newcastle fans have already taken to the streets to protest at the length of Pardew’s contract. “Five-and-a-half years just isn’t enough,” said Steve James, from Benwell in Newcastle. His furious banner read ‘Par-DUE A NEW DEAL’. Steve added: “Pardew should be given a job for life after that result. There is no way he should ever leave the club, unless we lose at Birmingham on Saturday in which case he will be the worst manager we have ever had and should be sacked immediately.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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