Wallace Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Thinking about it, where else would you find a club that is the countries third best supported team (attendance wise) stumbling around with no ambition like us? It's ridiculous. And as said, to say we can't even think of challenging for a UEFA Cup place is simply unacceptable! It almost strikes as a refusal to dream or be ambitious. Sickening. It also shows a lack of understanding of the club and supporters. If you get the supporters onside , give them some hope and excitement then a momentum builds which would generate more revenue for the club - seeing as that seems to be the only thing Ashley is interested in. If you keep telling supporters that we are unable to compete and just have to hope we can stay in the league, then more and more supporters will drift away and more money will be lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The thought of seeing SJP as empty as Boro's shithole on a match day breaks my heart, but this fat fucker is heading us in that direction. Around 12 and a half thousand there yesterday.. it was not that long ago even if it had been £20 a ticket and in the pissing down rain we would have had a good turn out for a pre season friendly. 2004 we played Rangers in a pre season friendly in front of 31,554.. 2005 we played Deportivo in front of 34,215 League home games were always a sell out, a season ticket was like gold dust with massive waiting lists, now we hardly see a full house unless its one of the top 5 clubs we are playing or the SMB. Its not about being priced out its about fans having enough the utter shit way we are being ran, its a sad sad fact that Alan Pardew is the best manager we can attract and even he seems sick to death already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ykmkmdd Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Something inside Northerngimp has snapped today like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Pardew isn't a bad manager. But, if you play with fire, you get your fingers burnt. It looks more and more with every presser he does that Llambias and Ashley have led him up the garden path. if they have then he's un-mentionably stupid tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The thought of seeing SJP as empty as Boro's shithole on a match day breaks my heart, but this fat f***er is heading us in that direction. Around 12 and a half thousand there yesterday.. it was not that long ago even if it had been £20 a ticket and in the pissing down rain we would have had a good turn out for a pre season friendly. 2004 we played Rangers in a pre season friendly in front of 31,554.. 2005 we played Deportivo in front of 34,215 League home games were always a sell out, a season ticket was like gold dust with massive waiting lists, now we hardly see a full house unless its one of the top 5 clubs we are playing or the SMB. Its not about being priced out its about fans having enough the utter s*** way we are being ran, its a sad sad fact that Alan Pardew is the best manager we can attract and even he seems sick to death already. Absolutely agree. And I don't understand why the club don't seem to have any comprehension of the damage they are slowly doing to the club. They need to keep the people of this city interested in NUFC because if not, we are not Man Utd or Liverpool who can fall back on the overseas markets and tourists to keep us going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Thinking about it, where else would you find a club that is the countries third best supported team (attendance wise) stumbling around with no ambition like us? It's ridiculous. And as said, to say we can't even think of challenging for a UEFA Cup place is simply unacceptable! It almost strikes as a refusal to dream or be ambitious. Sickening. We may have the third best supported team (attendance wise) but where do we come in terms of actual premiership gate receipts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Pardew isn't here because he's the best manager we could attract like... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The thought of seeing SJP as empty as Boro's shithole on a match day breaks my heart, but this fat f***er is heading us in that direction. Around 12 and a half thousand there yesterday.. it was not that long ago even if it had been £20 a ticket and in the pissing down rain we would have had a good turn out for a pre season friendly. 2004 we played Rangers in a pre season friendly in front of 31,554.. 2005 we played Deportivo in front of 34,215 League home games were always a sell out, a season ticket was like gold dust with massive waiting lists, now we hardly see a full house unless its one of the top 5 clubs we are playing or the SMB. Its not about being priced out its about fans having enough the utter s*** way we are being ran, its a sad sad fact that Alan Pardew is the best manager we can attract and even he seems sick to death already. Absolutely agree. And I don't understand why the club don't seem to have any comprehension of the damage they are slowly doing to the club. They need to keep the people of this city interested in NUFC because if not, we are not Man Utd or Liverpool who can fall back on the overseas markets and tourists to keep us going. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I remember when Pardew was manager at Reading and he had some dirty patter about getting them into Europe! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Pardew isn't a bad manager. But, if you play with fire, you get your fingers burnt. It looks more and more with every presser he does that Llambias and Ashley have led him up the garden path. Yup, he's an idiot for getting involved and he's a slimy cunt but it's not like he's sat in his office going "You know what, I don't want to spend that £35m. I want to get rid of Nolan and Enrique and not spend a penny..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The thought of seeing SJP as empty as Boro's shithole on a match day breaks my heart, but this fat f***er is heading us in that direction. Around 12 and a half thousand there yesterday.. it was not that long ago even if it had been £20 a ticket and in the pissing down rain we would have had a good turn out for a pre season friendly. 2004 we played Rangers in a pre season friendly in front of 31,554.. 2005 we played Deportivo in front of 34,215 League home games were always a sell out, a season ticket was like gold dust with massive waiting lists, now we hardly see a full house unless its one of the top 5 clubs we are playing or the SMB. Its not about being priced out its about fans having enough the utter s*** way we are being ran, its a sad sad fact that Alan Pardew is the best manager we can attract and even he seems sick to death already. Absolutely agree. And I don't understand why the club don't seem to have any comprehension of the damage they are slowly doing to the club. They need to keep the people of this city interested in NUFC because if not, we are not Man Utd or Liverpool who can fall back on the overseas markets and tourists to keep us going. Yup. They're seriously testing people's thresholds and they'll soon give up buying merchandise and attending the games etc. as often. And then it'll be too late for Ashley to do anything about it - he'll lose a fortune more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The thought of seeing SJP as empty as Boro's shithole on a match day breaks my heart, but this fat f***er is heading us in that direction. Around 12 and a half thousand there yesterday.. it was not that long ago even if it had been £20 a ticket and in the pissing down rain we would have had a good turn out for a pre season friendly. 2004 we played Rangers in a pre season friendly in front of 31,554.. 2005 we played Deportivo in front of 34,215 League home games were always a sell out, a season ticket was like gold dust with massive waiting lists, now we hardly see a full house unless its one of the top 5 clubs we are playing or the SMB. Its not about being priced out its about fans having enough the utter s*** way we are being ran, its a sad sad fact that Alan Pardew is the best manager we can attract and even he seems sick to death already. Absolutely agree. And I don't understand why the club don't seem to have any comprehension of the damage they are slowly doing to the club. They need to keep the people of this city interested in NUFC because if not, we are not Man Utd or Liverpool who can fall back on the overseas markets and tourists to keep us going. Yup. They're seriously testing people's thresholds and they'll soon give up buying merchandise and attending the games etc. as often. And then it'll be too late for Ashley to do anything about it - he'll lose a fortune more. He'll have another messiah in the waiting, for sure. (to get the fans happy again) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 It scares the s*** out of me who would replace him should he walk/ get sacked! I think he's an average-good manager who is ideal for where we are now Agree with that. Not many decent managers out of work, even less that will put up with Ashley. Exactly. As mental as it sounds, i think we'd be f***ed if Pardew went. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Pardew's latest quotes about us not being able to match fan expectations, says everything about the regime he's working under. Ashley is clearly not prepared at all to fund any aspect of the club any more and running costs have to be met on the whole by transfer fees. Hence the Carroll money being swallowed up by agent fees, new dug outs, bore holes and training ground developments. He says that the club has to wipe its own nose, so I expect cash from the likes of Carroll, Enrique and no doubt in the future Tiote and Colo to be spent on running costs. No matter how much we bring in, outgoing transfer fees will always be minimal. Ideally, we want loans, contract rebels or freebies and if transfer funds HAVE to be spent, then they will be on players who will be almost guaranteed to retain or increase their value- therefore the obsession with "young, hungry players". Pardew is wrong when he says we can't compete. After all, only Chelsea and Man City have limitless pots of cash. There's absolutely no reason why, with a bit of ambition, we couldnt build over three or four years and be competing with the likes of Everton, Villa and even Tottenham. The problem is the owner chooses not to compete. He doesnt want to spend money on the club and under his set up even the timid ambitions of "top ten finish every year" look fanciful. With such a way of running the club and continuing to buy on the cheap, Premier League survival will be the limit of our ambitions. Scouring the earth for players like Tiote, ie relatively unheard of gems, will turn up 9 Xisco esque players for every star find. Furthermore when such a gem turns up, it will be only a matter of time before they are spirited away by a team that "we can't compete with"- like Wigan or Villa. Depressing really, but that's NUFC under Mike Ashley., Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest michaelfoster Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 remember it is the middle of the school holidays so a lot of people will be away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Pardew's latest quotes about us not being able to match fan expectations, says everything about the regime he's working under. Ashley is clearly not prepared at all to fund any aspect of the club any more and running costs have to be met on the whole by transfer fees. Hence the Carroll money being swallowed up by agent fees, new dug outs, bore holes and training ground developments. He says that the club has to wipe its own nose, so I expect cash from the likes of Carroll, Enrique and no doubt in the future Tiote and Colo to be spent on running costs. No matter how much we bring in, outgoing transfer fees will always be minimal. Ideally, we want loans, contract rebels or freebies and if transfer funds HAVE to be spent, then they will be on players who will be almost guaranteed to retain or increase their value- therefore the obsession with "young, hungry players". Pardew is wrong when he says we can't compete. After all, only Chelsea and Man City have limitless pots of cash. There's absolutely no reason why, with a bit of ambition, we couldnt build over three or four years and be competing with the likes of Everton, Villa and even Tottenham. The problem is the owner chooses not to compete. He doesnt want to spend money on the club and under his set up even the timid ambitions of "top ten finish every year" look fanciful. With such a way of running the club and continuing to buy on the cheap, Premier League survival will be the limit of our ambitions. Scouring the earth for players like Tiote, ie relatively unheard of gems, will turn up 9 Xisco esque players for every star find. Furthermore when such a gem turns up, it will be only a matter of time before they are spirited away by a team that "we can't compete with"- like Wigan or Villa. Depressing really, but that's NUFC under Mike Ashley., Looks to me like that is exactly what we're doing. Do you think any one of those clubs has done better business than us this summer as it stands? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Pardew's latest quotes about us not being able to match fan expectations, says everything about the regime he's working under. Ashley is clearly not prepared at all to fund any aspect of the club any more and running costs have to be met on the whole by transfer fees. Hence the Carroll money being swallowed up by agent fees, new dug outs, bore holes and training ground developments. He says that the club has to wipe its own nose, so I expect cash from the likes of Carroll, Enrique and no doubt in the future Tiote and Colo to be spent on running costs. No matter how much we bring in, outgoing transfer fees will always be minimal. Ideally, we want loans, contract rebels or freebies and if transfer funds HAVE to be spent, then they will be on players who will be almost guaranteed to retain or increase their value- therefore the obsession with "young, hungry players". Pardew is wrong when he says we can't compete. After all, only Chelsea and Man City have limitless pots of cash. There's absolutely no reason why, with a bit of ambition, we couldnt build over three or four years and be competing with the likes of Everton, Villa and even Tottenham. The problem is the owner chooses not to compete. He doesnt want to spend money on the club and under his set up even the timid ambitions of "top ten finish every year" look fanciful. With such a way of running the club and continuing to buy on the cheap, Premier League survival will be the limit of our ambitions. Scouring the earth for players like Tiote, ie relatively unheard of gems, will turn up 9 Xisco esque players for every star find. Furthermore when such a gem turns up, it will be only a matter of time before they are spirited away by a team that "we can't compete with"- like Wigan or Villa. Depressing really, but that's NUFC under Mike Ashley., Looks to me like that is exactly what we're doing. Do you think any one of those clubs has done better business than us this summer as it stands? Villa probably have. Have the other two done any business? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 As if Spurs needed to do a lot of business anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Pardew's latest quotes about us not being able to match fan expectations, says everything about the regime he's working under. Ashley is clearly not prepared at all to fund any aspect of the club any more and running costs have to be met on the whole by transfer fees. Hence the Carroll money being swallowed up by agent fees, new dug outs, bore holes and training ground developments. He says that the club has to wipe its own nose, so I expect cash from the likes of Carroll, Enrique and no doubt in the future Tiote and Colo to be spent on running costs. No matter how much we bring in, outgoing transfer fees will always be minimal. Ideally, we want loans, contract rebels or freebies and if transfer funds HAVE to be spent, then they will be on players who will be almost guaranteed to retain or increase their value- therefore the obsession with "young, hungry players". Pardew is wrong when he says we can't compete. After all, only Chelsea and Man City have limitless pots of cash. There's absolutely no reason why, with a bit of ambition, we couldnt build over three or four years and be competing with the likes of Everton, Villa and even Tottenham. The problem is the owner chooses not to compete. He doesnt want to spend money on the club and under his set up even the timid ambitions of "top ten finish every year" look fanciful. With such a way of running the club and continuing to buy on the cheap, Premier League survival will be the limit of our ambitions. Scouring the earth for players like Tiote, ie relatively unheard of gems, will turn up 9 Xisco esque players for every star find. Furthermore when such a gem turns up, it will be only a matter of time before they are spirited away by a team that "we can't compete with"- like Wigan or Villa. Depressing really, but that's NUFC under Mike Ashley., Looks to me like that is exactly what we're doing. Do you think any one of those clubs has done better business than us this summer as it stands? Villa probably have. Have the other two done any business? 11 players out (2 in) including their 2 wingers, of which they have replaced only one. How have villa done better exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Be pretty stupid not to take into account Villa signing a top class striker for massive wedge in January, and us selling ours and making zero effort to replace him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 “The fans have had so many broken promises in the past not just from this ownership but way before that, but we have added two or three very good players to the group already and we are going to add to that.” How long is Pardew going to last highlighting such lies? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Be pretty stupid not to take into account Villa signing a top class striker for massive wedge in January, and us selling ours and making zero effort to replace him. Lost Carroll, but got Ben Arfa for a not inconsiderable £7m. Then got shot of Nolan and Routledge, and replaced them with Cabaye, Marv, Ba, and by the look of it Obertan (Abeid I don't think is fair to class as a first team signing yet). Look, there is no doubt we need more, a fucking decent striker for a start as you say, but the point was that we are not showing the ambition to compete with the likes of Everton, Villa etc. I would (again with the caveat, as it stands) disagree with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Something inside Northerngimp has snapped today like. Fuckng right i has, I have watched and waited to see what they would do with this 35 million windfall. Spun people a long all the time, proven liars - FACT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 He is looking for the middle ground between showing his squad of players he understands their concerns and will do what's needed to prove that too them but also not upsetting the big far child of an owner and get himself sacked. Needs to make sure the likes of Colo, Jose and Barton have faith him is willing to listen to them, its obvious Pards is very worried about losing more players, add that to the worry of not getting enough new signings and will feel he has to say something. Our worry should be the fact he is saying it to the press I think that indicates whatever he is saying to Ashley & Lambias is being ignored or why would he feel the need to speak publicly about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I just dont understand the point in owning a football club like newcastle that has proven itselff to be capable of playing european football on a regular basis and not try and achieve that again. MIKE european football brings in more money ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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