bowlingcrofty Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Football Manager children. Boo hoo, my team didn't win a game they probably should have. What a bunch of arseholes. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LJZBU51TCwM/TuVDztVv4fI/AAAAAAAAAP4/g0BZcEpTdBM/s1600/Pot_Meet_Kettle.jpg Some pictures off the interent, that's me defeated then. Why do you keep coming back on here if your only contribution is to say how stupid everyone is and call them names? Aren't differing opinions and debate the whole point of forums? Am I missing something? You didn't offer an opinion on the matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Football Manager children. Boo hoo, my team didn't win a game they probably should have. What a bunch of arseholes. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LJZBU51TCwM/TuVDztVv4fI/AAAAAAAAAP4/g0BZcEpTdBM/s1600/Pot_Meet_Kettle.jpg Some pictures off the interent, that's me defeated then. Why do you keep coming back on here if your only contribution is to say how stupid everyone is and call them names? Aren't differing opinions and debate the whole point of forums? Am I missing something? Try offering some then. Other people are, all you do is log on and call them arseholes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedudeabides Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Football Manager children. Boo hoo, my team didn't win a game they probably should have. What a bunch of arseholes. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LJZBU51TCwM/TuVDztVv4fI/AAAAAAAAAP4/g0BZcEpTdBM/s1600/Pot_Meet_Kettle.jpg Some pictures off the interent, that's me defeated then. Why do you keep coming back on here if your only contribution is to say how stupid everyone is and call them names? Aren't differing opinions and debate the whole point of forums? Am I missing something? A brain. Cutting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Of course they should have, but they didn't. That happens in football leagues all over the World, and makes this game so great. Wolves were terrible yet they were allowed to come back from being 2 goals behind. Our starting line-up was wrong, our tactics were wrong and the substitutions were wrong. How would you have lined up at the start? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Football Manager children. Boo hoo, my team didn't win a game they probably should have. What a bunch of arseholes. funny because that was the post of an arsehole Possibly, but an arsehole who was watching football and this club before you were even thought of. Is that an "I'm older than you" argument? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedudeabides Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Football Manager children. Boo hoo, my team didn't win a game they probably should have. What a bunch of arseholes. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LJZBU51TCwM/TuVDztVv4fI/AAAAAAAAAP4/g0BZcEpTdBM/s1600/Pot_Meet_Kettle.jpg Some pictures off the interent, that's me defeated then. Why do you keep coming back on here if your only contribution is to say how stupid everyone is and call them names? Aren't differing opinions and debate the whole point of forums? Am I missing something? Try offering some then. Other people are, all you do is log on and call them arseholes. I haven't abused a single poster, was just a general remark, didn't realise everyone was so sensitive. My point is that even the greatest football teams the game has ever known, don't win all of the time. Look at Barcelona this year for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Mick - I actually agree regarding our first 11. Absolute bags of potential there if a suitable formation/tactics are adopted. Wasted on Pardew at the mo. This team could really go places - especially this year given how many points are separating 4th-7th. It's just a shame we don't have a squad - how the hell they failed to bring another CB in January I do not know. Desperately short of quality at the back beyond Colo/Santon/Taylor. Absolutely crippling us at the mo - you can't build a 'solid' team from the back when Simpson is still gettig games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedudeabides Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Football Manager children. Boo hoo, my team didn't win a game they probably should have. What a bunch of arseholes. funny because that was the post of an arsehole Possibly, but an arsehole who was watching football and this club before you were even thought of. Is that an "I'm older than you" argument? If my 5-year-old son started lecturing me about Newcastle United and football in general, well, to be quite honest, I'd listen to what he had to say but in all honesty, I would dismiss out of hand as soon as he left the room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 So your contribution to the ongoing discussion about the qualities and shortcomings of our manager, the contribution that justifies calling everyone else arseholes and computer game-playing children is to point out that sometimes teams lose matches, and that at 42/43 you've been going to games for quite a while? Thanks for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedudeabides Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 So your contribution to the ongoing discussion about the qualities and shortcomings of our manager, the contribution that justifies calling everyone else arseholes and computer game-playing children is to point out that sometimes teams lose matches, and that you've been going to games for quite a while? Thanks for that. Yes, pretty much. I'm angry and full of beer, apologies to anyone I may have offended. Did we lose? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Feels like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedudeabides Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Feels like it. Indeed it does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Football Manager children. Boo hoo, my team didn't win a game they probably should have. What a bunch of arseholes. funny because that was the post of an arsehole Possibly, but an arsehole who was watching football and this club before you were even thought of. Is that an "I'm older than you" argument? The best ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Why the f4ck can he not get the team to play like we did vs Man U? No intensity whatsoever today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Maybe so, but that's football. Even the very best teams/managers don't win all the time. We don't have a very good manager, we have an average (at best) manager who I think is getting the best results from the team but not the best performances and I base that on our season so far, not on today. Even now though I think we're close to not getting the points expected because our poor performances are now affecting our points haul in a way that performances were being over shadowed before the New Year. I would go as far as saying we've done nothing of note since the first week in January and even then the performances were far too erratic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedudeabides Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Maybe so, but that's football. Even the very best teams/managers don't win all the time. We don't have a very good manager, we have an average (at best) manager who I think is getting the best results from the team but not the best performances and I base that on our season so far, not on today. Even now though I think we're close to not getting the points expected because our poor performances are now affecting our points haul in a way that performances were being over shadowed before the New Year. I would go as far as saying we've done nothing of note since the first week in January and even then the performances were far too erratic. So what do you propose we do, re-appoint Kinnear or Shearer? Do you honestly think any manager worth his salt would come and work here for buttons and under the financial restrictions? Regardless of Pardew's shortcomings, we are well and truly punching above our weight this season, and he should be given a lot of credit imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 How would you have lined up at the start? I would have started Ben Arfa instead of Taylor and I would have let him go where he wanted rather than have Taylor doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Maybe so, but that's football. Even the very best teams/managers don't win all the time. We don't have a very good manager, we have an average (at best) manager who I think is getting the best results from the team but not the best performances and I base that on our season so far, not on today. Even now though I think we're close to not getting the points expected because our poor performances are now affecting our points haul in a way that performances were being over shadowed before the New Year. I would go as far as saying we've done nothing of note since the first week in January and even then the performances were far too erratic. So what do you propose we do, re-appoint Kinnear or Shearer? Do you honestly think any manager worth his salt would come and work here for buttons and under the financial restrictions? Regardless of Pardew's shortcomings, we are well and truly punching above our weight this season, and he should be given a lot of credit imho. I'm not sure if we are, my mate asked me the other day how many players I'd take from the Arsenal squad for our first team and the answer was not many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 In our last 5 league games (QPR, Fulham, Blackburn, Villa, Spurs) before today I cannot recall a single convincing performance. Our form has declined sharply since that Man Utd win. Despite it being a win that Blackburn game was absolutely horrendous- possibly one of the worst showings I've ever witnessed from us, whilst the Spurs game was just a whimper of a 'performance'. Results are starting to become worryingly inconsistent and Pardew must arrest this problem starting with next week. His team selections and tactical (or lack of) interventions during games are nothing short of mediocre, imo. Thankfully we've had such a good season up until now so we don't have to be looking over our shoulders, but days like today are infuriating and totally unacceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 In our last 5 league games (QPR, Fulham, Blackburn, Villa, Spurs) before today I cannot recall a single convincing performance. Our form has declined sharply since that Man Utd win. Despite it being a win that Blackburn game was absolutely horrendous- possibly one of the worst showings I've ever witnessed from us, whilst the Spurs game was just a whimper of a 'performance'. Results are starting to become worryingly inconsistent and Pardew must arrest this problem starting with next week. His team selections and tactical (or lack of) interventions during games are nothing short of mediocre, imo. Thankfully we've had such a good season up until now so we don't have to be looking over our shoulders, but days like today are infuriating and totally unacceptable. todays team selection, while not what i'd have picked was enough to beat wolves. the tactics of containment and hit on the break were crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I've noticed those that are more critical of Pardew offer good analysis of his faults, the team's etc. and basically debate these things whereas those that defend him have little to say other than we are 6th, we were in the Championship 2 years aho or we have a limited squad. People need to clear their heads of such thoughts and look at our performances, his tactics, the way we play football, our team selections and even his subs. Focus on those things and tell me where he is going right and doing well? What do you expect after a couple of defeats? There are more negatives than positives so those on one side of the argument are inevitably going to have more strings to their arguments. If we'd come in off the back of a 4-0 win today, those defending Pardew would have more than "Well we're sixth" "Poor squad" etc. We could look at the CC normal time and FA Cup game against Blackburn, 2-2 against Spurs etc. as signs of our grit and determination as a team (we're performing with a never-say-die attitude at times), the 3-0 against Man U to show that narrow, direct tactics can result in a good performance/result, the 3-1 against Stoke to show how our rigid, organised, counter attacking football can really damage a team, Blackburn and Villa wins in recent weeks to show that we can grind out a result even whilst under pressure. The thought that we've chanced our way to 6th and the majority of our play this season has been poor is ludicrous. You can't get to challenging in the top 6 on luck alone, and in spite of the manager. It just doesn't happen. We've been very poor in recent weeks, and the football isn't great, but that doesn't negate the whole season. Excellent post - I would add that it is much easier it is to be critical of something and point out negatives than it is to point out positives. There are a whole host of things that we do well and that are positive about Pardew's management - many of which you have pointed out. Who genuinely would have thought that a team including Perch, Simpson, williamson, Shola, Best etc could be 6th? There certainly weren't many on here willing to stick their neck on the line at the beginning of the season. There is no way that our squad is currently a top 6 squad and if we manage to get into the top 6 come May a huge amount of credit has to go to Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 alan, are we going to commit anyone forward from midfield ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 "I'm not overly disappointed, it was a marked improvement on Spurs". I was at Spurs, it was fucking humiliating and like everyone else I've been dying for us to put it right for 2 weeks, today wasn't exactly what I had in mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 So what do you propose we do, re-appoint Kinnear or Shearer? Do you honestly think any manager worth his salt would come and work here for buttons and under the financial restrictions? Regardless of Pardew's shortcomings, we are well and truly punching above our weight this season, and he should be given a lot of credit imho. The bit in bold, yes, that's exactly what I'd do. All managers are going to be working under the sort of conditions Pardew is working under and we have a lot more going for us than most clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Piss boiling listening to Pardew say he wasn't disappointed, like he's a powerless spectator on events. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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