Zach Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I think top 7 is realistic but it depends on how well our fringe/young players do. If the younger ones start pushing for first team places and the likes of Perch, Amalfitano and Gosling have good seasons then we could challenge further up the table again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I agree on paper we should finish in the top 6, but we shouldn't underestimate the effect on the extra games will have on the squad. Really? I'd say top 8, but i think people on here have distorted views after last season. Liverpool and Tottenham are still stronger, as horrible as it is to admit. We had a season when everyhing clicked, Liverpool had a season when everything went wrong. I think on paper we're more around 7/8- in the same bracket as Everton. Of course, here's hoping we have another superb season and exceed expectations again, but top 8 would be about right IMO Tottenham finished above us last year so how that has any relation to us finishing top 6 i don't know and we are better than Liverpool and Everton. Liverpool are definitely not stronger. They have been poor since Benitez left because they have an average side, until they make improvements we are better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontenacity Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I agree on paper we should finish in the top 6, but we shouldn't underestimate the effect on the extra games will have on the squad. Really? I'd say top 8, but i think people on here have distorted views after last season. Liverpool and Tottenham are still stronger, as horrible as it is to admit. We had a season when everyhing clicked, Liverpool had a season when everything went wrong. I think on paper we're more around 7/8- in the same bracket as Everton. Of course, here's hoping we have another superb season and exceed expectations again, but top 8 would be about right IMO Tottenham finished above us last year so how that has any relation to us finishing top 6 i don't know and we are better than Liverpool and Everton. Liverpool are definitely not stronger. They have been poor since Benitez left because they have an average side, until they make improvements we are better. Yes but clearly with their new manager and losing Modric, Spurs are more likely to be catchable than Chelsea, with their investment and apparent boost in morale under Di Matteo. By saying we should be finishing in the top 6 you imply we should be competitive with 5th place (where Tottenham may well finish in my opinion), hence why i mentioned tottenham. And then Liverpool have been competitive for years, and just because they've been poor the last two seasons, they've still won a trophy suggesting they are still strong. I'm just worried people on here will be complaining if we finish in the top 8, which in my opinion would be an achievemnt as it represents consolidation after a great season before. To expect top 6 as well as doing well in Europe and a domestic cup is dangerous i think. Of course we can hope and it is certainly possible, but top 6 should be a wish not an expectation in my view Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 To be clear i don't expect top 6 i just think it's well within our capabilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I really don't enjoy trying to say what would and wouldn't be a good finishing position. We're capable of playing well and putting on some great performances. That's what I want. On our rivals, Spurs might be worse and Liverpool might be the same. Chelsea's signings look class. As long as we're competing at the right end of the table I'm basically happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Anything less than a top 6 finish would be a disappointment given the players we have and the season we have had, progress should always be the aim and we have it in us to progress further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 It Pardew manages to get back to back top 6 finishes he will have done a brilliant job. Which is basiclly the positive version of what HTT said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TherealnorthernTOON Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Tbf, our first team lineup could possibly fight it out with any team in the league right now. But the season is long and as before it's the squad that matters. With the extra games we have this season, and a few uncertains as Marveaux, Amalftiano, Bigirmana, Abeid, Vuckic, Sammy etc. Will they provide enough quality when asked upon to let the machine keep going? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 With the squad we've got now/will have soon and the money that appears to be available now and next summer, we should only really stay in or around the European spots imo. It would take a massive pessimist to think we've got anything other than a really bright long term future. Ogust 18nd pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Latest: "It's no secret that we've made a bid for the boy (Debuchy). It was a bid that we though reflected his true market value but it's been knocked back. As for another bid, I'm not sure at this stage. We cant be held to ransom but we'll see what Mike wants to do. The windows got a month left and I'm hoping we'll see some movement soon. Ideally we want one in for Spurs, maybe another before the window shuts. It's tough though, there's no doubt that everyone's feeling the pinch. Transfers are such a technical business, the last few years we've gone from dealing with a player and his agent to a whole entourage at times. It's frustrating and simply adds to an already complex process. What's pleasing though is we've not lost anybody. Make no mistake, there's teams watching our players and I'll be glad when September rolls round. If we can start v Spurs with our current strongest eleven, then you have to say that's a good summer." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Latest: "It's no secret that we've made a bid for the boy (Debuchy). It was a bid that we though reflected his true market value but it's been knocked back. As for another bid, I'm not sure at this stage. We cant be held to ransom but we'll see what Mike wants to do. The windows got a month left and I'm hoping we'll see some movement soon. Ideally we want one in for Spurs, maybe another before the window shuts. It's tough though, there's no doubt that everyone's feeling the pinch. Transfers are such a technical business, the last few years we've gone from dealing with a player and his agent to a whole entourage at times. It's frustrating and simply adds to an already complex process. What's pleasing though is we've not lost anybody. Make no mistake, there's teams watching our players and I'll be glad when September rolls round. If we can start v Spurs with our current strongest eleven, then you have to say that's a good summer." Sounds pretty negative about our chances to sign anyone like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Well that's fucking sobering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Expectation auto pilot adjusted, changed course to rock bottom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Tell me they're not real. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 It was a good one, but I still can't believe people fell for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 It was a good one, but I still can't believe people fell for that. Unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Yeah, me neither. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 I heard he was going to on BBC Newcastle, anyone know if this is true and if so what time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Tell me they're not real. No link, got to be made up. http://www.stockphotopro.com/photo-thumbs-2/APRD65.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 I realise there's a chance we may finally compromise over Debuchy but my gut feeling is that we're not going to get anyone in before the window, perhaps Carroll for cut price on deadline day. It's worrying because right back has been a weak area that has needed replacing for a year now, and we've had a great window of opportunity to do it. We've got a month left of transfer time, but I'm not particularly optimistic. Lille are (quite rightly) being as resilient and difficult to work with as possible and it doesn't bode well. They want Debuchy for another year and Mike/Dekka don't really like being dictated to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Is he talking to BBC tonight? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Pardew is often a bit down on transfers, like when Maiga failed his medical and we wouldn't be signing a striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPalAl Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Tea +1 for me like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 http://twitpic.com/af3zwc From what I can see - he still thinks we can get 2/3 new players before the end of the transfer window and the Debuchy chase is "out of his hands" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Just too small to read Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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