Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I was a Nolan critic but he's really won me round for now. Paring him with Smith at times did him no favours. Sam Alladyce summed Nolan up well when he said he's very average when in the middle of the park. But is superb in the box when it comes to his movement positioning and scoring. Although i still don't think he's particularly good in the center of midfield. Luckily we have the awesome Tiote who makes up for him. We need stability at the moment and he really seems to be an excellent motivating captain, seems key to our team spirit and recent revival, add to that his goals which speak for themselves and the fact we haven't got anyone better.........he should definately stay for now. The wheels seem to come off when he and Barton are out. We need a very good replacement option we can try in his place should he get injured/suspended/for cup games. Perhaps Hughton had Gosling pencilled in for this role. We shall have to wait and see if he's any good. Vuckik has potential too but isn't ready yet. If we do sign Bentley and Nolan is out then Barton could go central or possibly even Bentley. What have you actually seen in Vuckic that makes you think he's anything special? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Do a lot of Premiership midfielders have particularly outstandingly special qualities? He's a decent player; I still think he goes missing for chunks of pies games but no-one can deny he's made a huge contribution to your season so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 We never win two 'must wins' on the bounce. If we win this, I'll drink my own...... coffee whilst I watch Messi drink his piss-cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I wouldn't have expected to have watched him much but I'm wondering this too. His name is mentioned quite a lot when 'up and coming' players are mentioned. Is it just because he's young, therefore has 'potential'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I wouldn't have expected to have watched him much but I'm wondering this too. His name is mentioned quite a lot when 'up and coming' players are mentioned. Is it just because he's young, therefore has 'potential'? Young, foreign and left footed. That's why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 He's young and hasn't really played for the first team yet, RELEASE HIM, USELESS. I dunno, maybe people just rate him because when they've seen him play for the reserves he's impressed them? The only thing worse than people expecting the next superstar is people who write of our best youngsters before they're out of their teens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Can't say I've seen anyone write him off as such. Don't think now's the time to start blooding him though. From the appearances I have seen (which admittedly isn't much), and what other's say when he's been given a first team opportunity, he's not impressed too much. Hopefully he can start to put some of that potential to good use, but right now, I just don't think he's ready. With the amount of hype surrounding him, it was naturally a given that he was going to be a disappointment when finally out there on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I'd rather see Vuckic go on loan somewhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 For what it's worth when I've seen him play at reserve level (4 or 5 times maybe) he's been probably the best player on the park each time, outperforming older players. Captaining his country's U19 team at 16, playing for the U21s at 17 and called into the full team at 18 is usually a good sign. This coupled with the stories of bigger clubs watching him before we signed him has led to him being (over)hyped up. Whether he'll amount to anything in the long term, time will only tell. No, though, he's shit and anybody who has the remotest positive attitude towards playing young players should be lambasted for doing so. It's not like our current star player was the result of having faith in young players, is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 For what it's worth when I've seen him play at reserve level (4 or 5 times maybe) he's been probably the best player on the park each time, outperforming older players. Captaining his country's U19 team at 16, playing for the U21s at 17 and called into the full team at 18 is usually a good sign. This coupled with the stories of bigger clubs watching him before we signed him has led to him being (over)hyped up. Whether he'll amount to anything in the long term, time will only tell. No, though, he's shit and anybody who has the remotest positive attitude towards playing young players should be lambasted for doing so. It's not like our current star player was the result of having faith in young players, is it? What are his key attributes? Dribbler? Pace? Genuine question btw - he may well turn out to be good and if he has something then of course, support him 100%. I just haven't seen much from the admittedly limited times I've seen him. He's of course got time. Don't think anyone is saying he's shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Probably archetypal European #10. Great left foot, passing and shooting...only uses his right foot to stand on and despite his size and height is pretty poor in the air and usually shirks the physical side. He's got a reasonable stride pace wise but he's not exactly a pacy dribbling kind of player. Nobody has said he's shit, that was hyperbole, but then again there are people who are questioning his future after resembling the first team only a handful of times. This is no better than the people calling for him to start immediately because he's Slovenia's answer to Maradona. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Lose 2-1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roy the Irish Magpie Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 My prediction Newcastle 7-0 West Ham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 As one of the resident posters of the painfully obvious, we cannot afford to drop these points. I'll go for 2-1 to us. Even without Carroll, we should be able to score against this roving pile of dogshit, even if they are playing a bit better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 same as wigan but ranger for mcloven. my guess though is that he may play best with ameobi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Shola/Ranger > Shola/Best > Shola/Lovenkrands >>> Best/Lovenkrands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 first game i'm attending since blackpool bummed us at home, really looking forward to it. i'm expecting an un-changed team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 2 - 1 to Newcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LukeT Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 1-1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 2-0 shola,jonas........and best will start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 If we win this we're... ah... two points off Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 3-0 - Best, Gutierrez & Smith. Heard it here first folks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Quichà Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 4-1 Best hatrick and Ameobi toe poke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 If we win this we're... ah... two points off Europe. sure ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 If we win this we're... ah... two points off Europe. Isn't Europe 5th this year? Is it going to be extended to 6th? Genuine question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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