HawK Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Born in '84, can't think of a worse 11 we've ever had. Regardless of how they play for their clubs, when playing for England they are total garbage. Evidenced partially by the fact that absolutely no top English footballers play, or are wanted, in other top European leagues since the early 90's (Hargreaves hardly counts). State of English football is just shockingly bad, all we seem to do is produce athletes rather than good footballers, and as Barca show, you don't have to be the most athletically gifted to be so dominant. I still don't see what all the fuss with Rooney is about, Scholes is twice the player he'll ever be and he's knocking on the door towards 40 now. Not so much as a debating point as a rant, been wanting to say this for a while now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Team that USA beat 2-0 - Fucking dross. 1 Chris Woods 2 Lee Dixon 3 Tony Dorigo 4 Carlton Palmer off 61' 5 Gary Pallister 6 David Batty 7 Paul Ince © 8 Nigel Clough 9 Lee Sharpe 10 Les Ferdinand off 35' 11 John Barnes 12 Des Walker on 61' 13 Ian Wright on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Team that USA beat 2-0 - f***ing dross. 1 Chris Woods 2 Lee Dixon 3 Tony Dorigo 4 Carlton Palmer off 61' 5 Gary Pallister 6 David Batty 7 Paul Ince © 8 Nigel Clough 9 Lee Sharpe 10 Les Ferdinand off 35' 11 John Barnes 12 Des Walker on 61' 13 Ian Wright on Would put them ahead of the current lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Well, the starting XI that are picked are pretty terrible but there is a very capable starting XI available - we just don't pick them preferring to stick with undroppable individuals and ignore who would form the best team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Any of the ones that contained Keith Curle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 HawK - What made you think of England crap XI @ around about 10pm on Saturday night? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 1990 aside and even then they were lucky at times England have never had a brilliant team. Good at times and overrated always but never brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 HawK - Whay made you think of England crap XI @ around about 10pm on Saturday night? I've been fuming away for 2-3 years about this lol, no idea just wanted to post it out there, see if any one agrees Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 The overriding feeling of me is the mentality a lot of players have adopted. For some, it is no longer a thrilling honour to play for England; it is but a requirement in their calendar. There is also a fear of changing the status quo. Far too many players have been picked far too long on name alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 1 Chris Woods - would get into the current XI 2 Lee Dixon - see above 3 Tony Dorigo - would make the squad 4 Carlton Palmer off 61' - awful 5 Gary Pallister - would make the squad 6 David Batty - would make the squad or even XI 7 Paul Ince © - see above 8 Nigel Clough - awful 9 Lee Sharpe - would make the squad 10 Les Ferdinand off 35' - would make the squad or even XI 11 John Barnes - was finished at the time 12 Des Walker on 61' - see above 13 Ian Wright on - would make the squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Gareth Barry and Glen Johnson are this generation's Neil Webb and Lee Dixon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 England put out some dreadful XI's in the early/mid 90's. I remember Paul Warhurst (CB by trade shoved up front to emergency CF) getting a call up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I think Lee Dixon was a decent RB myself and would make it ahead of Johnson. A poor man's Gary Neville but far better than Johnson in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 My level of interest in the national side is at a all time low. The summer finished me as an England fan. Crapello is just counting his wedge and will tread water until he inevitably steps down. England were one of the worst countries in South Africa, absolute disgrace really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 My level of interest in the national side is at a all time low. The summer finished me as an England fan. Crapello is just counting his wedge and will tread water until he inevitably steps down. England were one of the worst countries in South Africa, absolute disgrace really. Very much the opinion I hold too. Not suprising considering the daft contract he is on, FA changed his contact so they couldn't fire him cheap after the WC n all which is very odd. As much as I loathe him I'd give Redknapp a pop. He obviously wants it and I think he'd do alright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 My level of interest in the national side is at a all time low. Agree with this tbh. Even under Sven at Germany 2006 some of the players were quite likeable and we were a tad unfortunate, despite the usual shaky start. Currently, I struggle to feel any kind of affinity for any of the players in an England shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I've lost all interest in England, similar to Otter. If I had to choose an XI, it would look something like this off the top of my head: Hart Johnson Ferdinand Terry* Cole Barton Wilshere Gerrard Adam Johnson Carroll Defoe Inexperienced, a bit fearless, but would develop well over time IMO. Not a chance. * - Would look to replace as soon as. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 My level of interest in the national side is at a all time low. The summer finished me as an England fan. Crapello is just counting his wedge and will tread water until he inevitably steps down. England were one of the worst countries in South Africa, absolute disgrace really. pretty much agree with this, I think france 98 was the last time an England defeat hurt me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 My level of interest in the national side is at a all time low. The summer finished me as an England fan. Crapello is just counting his wedge and will tread water until he inevitably steps down. England were one of the worst countries in South Africa, absolute disgrace really. My thoughts too. I'd love to see a manager come in and drop the old guard and replace them with youngsters and look towards building a team for the future. How half the players still get a game for England defies belief. That said its hard for an England manager to experiment and be so bold due to the win the World Cup now or go attitude of the media and indeed many a fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Capello's hands are tied in some regards, as the sad fact is the FA want players who'll put arses on seats playing for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Capello's hands are tied in some regards, as the sad fact is the FA want players who'll put arses on seats playing for England. I agree, but his selection of Gareth Barry in almost every single starting XI is completely indefensible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delima Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 England r not that bad at all at the moment Joe hart - better than James + robinson Ferdinand - injury prone but still good as ever Terry - see above Ashley cole - good as ever Adam Johnson - best right winger after beckham Wilshere - can't be any worse than Ferrara / pampers / Carrick / Barry Rodwell - see above Jordan Henderson - still raw James Milner - needs to be played in the middle Andy caroll - better than heskey Rooney - off form at the moment Apart from the defenders, England have a batch of young + up n coming players who can't do any worse than current lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 It's quite an embarrassing state of affairs when players like Kevin Davies and Jay Bothroyd are getting in the squad like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delima Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I missed out chris smalling - who seems classy Gary cahill - I dint rate him that much but others do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Andy caroll - better than heskey Christ, with insight like that you could work for ITV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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