themanupstairs Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Giorgios Giorgiades was a little bit shit was he not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Can we all just agree that it's a toss-up between Smith and Lovenkrands? We've had far worse players than those two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Smith or Amdy Faye for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 if i have to name the worst player i believe that wages, transfer fee and what role the player is considered to play as important factors for the judgement! No way! Worst player is least talented - if you factor in fees or wages or reputation then you're not talking about worst player but worst signing... it still cant be løvenkrands.... Never said it was - I plumped for one of Pattison, Ramage or Huntington. If I had to pick one it would probably be Pattison Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 if i have to name the worst player i believe that wages, transfer fee and what role the player is considered to play as important factors for the judgement! No way! Worst player is least talented - if you factor in fees or wages or reputation then you're not talking about worst player but worst signing... Wrong! You can pay top money but still the player could still be rubbish with little talent at all. But generally there's a connection between talent/skills on the pitch and money paid. But Boumsong, Luque, Xisco, and Owen are prime examples of the opposite. Those kind of players are the worst, because not only are they shit on the pitch, they also tie up enormous amount of capital which results in a club that cannot afford recruiting replacements. In other words there are two subjects that could be discussed. One: Who was the LEAST TALENTED player. Focus is on football SKILLS only. Two: Who was the worst player OVERALL. Focus will then be on salary, transfer sum, talent, performance on the pitch and behavior. A simple question that could be used as a primer is: Which player has hurt the club the most? Unless the nominator specify which one of these categories he has in mind, people will never agree. Anyways, I don't give a shit about players like Loven. yes he's inferior. But he's not the main causes of all our recent problems. He was free and is not paid much. In other words, I have category two in mind when I state that Owen is the biggest cunt ever to be associated with this club in modern times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Nice interpretation of the thread title. Nice interpretation of the thread title. Really enjoyed that actually. Surely worst player suggests least talented/effective? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfroP Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Boumsong, Luque, babayaro, smith, butt Michael Owen deserves special mention. not because he was a particularly bad player. but just simply because he took this club and us the fans for a massive massive ride and quite plainly couldn't give a fook Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Nice interpretation of the thread title. Really enjoyed that actually. I have my moments, but they're rare Dresden should specify what he's after. When I read the topic I immediately thought of the overall worst player. But if he's thinking of the least talented only, he should change his topic to exactly that: "The least talented player in recent club history. " That will leave little room for interpretation.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 In my lifetime: Hislop Carr/Barton's final season Huntington Ramage Boumsong Babayaro Faye Smith Butt Luque Xisco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 You've got to be joking. Boumsong was absolutely atrocious in the air. Nah, he was average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I'll stick my neck out on this controversial one: Boumsong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 if i have to name the worst player i believe that wages, transfer fee and what role the player is considered to play as important factors for the judgement! No way! Worst player is least talented - if you factor in fees or wages or reputation then you're not talking about worst player but worst signing... Wrong! You can pay top money but still the player could still be rubbish with little talent at all. But generally there's a connection between talent/skills on the pitch and money paid. But Boumsong, Luque, Xisco, and Owen are prime examples of the opposite. Those kind of players are the worst, because not only are they shit on the pitch, they also tie up enormous amount of capital which results in a club that cannot afford recruiting replacements. In other words there are two subjects that could be discussed. One: Who was the LEAST TALENTED player. Focus is on football SKILLS only. Two: Who was the worst player OVERALL. Focus will then be on salary, transfer sum, talent, performance on the pitch and behavior. A simple question that could be used as a primer is: Which player has hurt the club the most? Unless the nominator specify which one of these categories he has in mind, people will never agree. Anyways, I don't give a shit about players like Loven. yes he's inferior. But he's not the main causes of all our recent problems. He was free and is not paid much. In other words, I have category two in mind when I state that Owen is the biggest cunt ever to be associated with this club in modern times Is English your second language? Is that why you have an inability to understand the nuance of the language? Despite your patronising efforts, you are still confusing worst player with worst signing. Dresden doesn't need to clarify his question - he asked who the worst players in the club's recent history, and you have answered with the worst signing. In effect, you're making up your own question. Make no mistake, Michael Owen might very well be the worst signing the club has ever made - in fact, I'm struggling to think of a worse signing. But if you're seriously telling me that Owen was a worse player than Matty Pattison, then you need to go back to school. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 In my lifetime: Hislop Carr/Barton's final season Huntington Ramage Boumsong Babayaro Faye Smith Butt Luque Xisco Hislop wasn't that bad tbh, there were definitely worse than him around at that time. I've seen more flashes of talent in Luque and Xisco than Carl Cort and Guivarch so .. hell i'll do an XI for my lifetime - Hooper Carr Ramage Boumsong Babayaro Bassedas Smith Viana - Although has gone on to become a somewhat handy player for other clubs Cort Guivarch Andersson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Hislop? The 2 keepers who've started for us this season are far worse than Shaka. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Viana is roughly 1 billion times the player Amdy Faye is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Hislop? The 2 keepers who've started for us this season are far worse than Shaka. I was a young lad at the time and I may be wrong, no doubt about it. Cort and Guivarch are both good shouts for a lifetime XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Cort wasn't as bad as some of the strikers we've had, like. He was incredibly unfortunate with injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Slugworth Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Fumaca? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Cort wasn't as bad as some of the strikers we've had, like. He was incredibly unfortunate with injuries. Agree, very harsh on Cort. He actually went on a little scoring run towards the end of his first season and was starting to look the part, which is more than Luque or Xisco ever did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Viana was a brilliant footballer who was played out of position because he didn't quite physically suit the English game. Anyone putting him in one of these Xls wants shooting with s****. Viana also scored vital, vital goals against Brum and Feyenoord in 02-03. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 What about Diego Gavilan? Was he any good? Can't remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Viana was talented but was never given a crack in his favoured position. He blotted his record massively though with that pathetic performance in Marseilles. Still a shame that things didn't work out for him. A typical NUFC tale of wasting talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 No member of the CL qualifying sides should be mentioned. Not Postman Pat or Bramble. And tbh neither should Butt. Signed relatively cheaply, a decent season but was held on to for far too long and was made to be the playmaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Viana was a brilliant footballer who was played out of position because he didn't quite physically suit the English game. Anyone putting him in one of these Xls wants shooting with s****. Viana also scored vital, vital goals against Brum and Feyenoord in 02-03. Aye, no chance. We are talking the likes of Luque, Pattison, the kinds of players i've never seen have a good game for us. Viana minus injuries was promising his debut season. He probably holds the single worst performance but overall? Not a chance of being amongst the worst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Not the worst player but worst value has got to be Michael Owen. 16m transfer fee. £20m in wages. We got £5m from the FA didn't we? Yet the net price has to be atleast £30m for which we got what... 20 goals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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