Village Idiot Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 At that price you should have been in for him, he's Sevilla's hottest prospect since Navas. Lots of talk that he likes partying a bit too much though, which might hinder his promise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 At that price you should have been in for him, he's Sevilla's hottest prospect since Navas. Lots of talk that he likes partying a bit too much though, which might hinder his promise. Ridiculous that we have chosen to limit ourselves to mainly France when many clubs (9 clubs bought from Spain so far) have caught onto the Spanish market and at reduced fees too. It's good that we have a proven hunting ground but we should expand our scouting network instead of restricting ourselves to a few select countries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Aye, we with a crashing economy and a dysfunctional league we have loads of clubs that absolutely need to sell to survive. And it's not like 10 years ago, where there were hardly examples of Spanish players being successful in England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 A year ago we were clever and ahead of the curve in the transfer market, yet now it feels like we're behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 A year ago we were clever and ahead of the curve in the transfer market, yet now it feels like we're behind. I think we kind of have a target then when we don't get him we have to start a new process all over again. PEA was our target we didn't get him now we are looking at other targets. OR that's what I hope is happening, we might just be doing nothing hoping Remy will buy himself out of his contract and knock on Kinnears door. Who knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 A year ago we were clever and ahead of the curve in the transfer market, yet now it feels like we're behind. I think we kind of have a target then when we don't get him we have to start a new process all over again. PEA was our target we didn't get him now we are looking at other targets. OR that's what I hope is happening, we might just be doing nothing hoping Remy will buy himself out of his contract and knock on Kinnears door. Who knows. Totally right there. It's Like De Jong last year. Bid 10mill, didn't get him, then we brought in no one. Seems like we only have 1 player scouted and on the list at a time, then when that doesn't happen, we haven't go ta clue what to do next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 It can't be true that we're only looking at one target at once. It just can't be. How would we end up in a position where we're able to bring in 4 or 5 players in one window like we did in January? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 A year ago we were clever and ahead of the curve in the transfer market, yet now it feels like we're behind. Were we ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 We always think we're not going to make any signings, until they arrive. We fucked up last summer but the effect was made worse by other factors. We obviously need reinforcements, like every club does every window, but we still have time left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 We always think we're not going to make any signings, until they arrive. We f***ed up last summer but the effect was made worse by other factors. We obviously need reinforcements, like every club does every window, but we still have time left. It's far to quiet though, not the right noises coming out of the club either. Worried as fuck as expect us to sell players and not get what we need. We will be relegated next season if we sell and don't manage to get strikers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 We always think we're not going to make any signings, until they arrive. We f***ed up last summer but the effect was made worse by other factors. We obviously need reinforcements, like every club does every window, but we still have time left. Out of curiosity, how many net transfers (in vs out) do you think we will bring in by the end of the window? Talking about first-teamers obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 We always think we're not going to make any signings, until they arrive. We f***ed up last summer but the effect was made worse by other factors. We obviously need reinforcements, like every club does every window, but we still have time left. Out of curiosity, how many net transfers (in vs out) do you think we will bring in by the end of the window? Talking about first-teamers obviously. Hard to say. Possibly one out if Cisse goes, otherwise probably none out. Assuming selling people like Gosling for peanuts doesn't count as important. Coming in? Two forwards and possibly a defender? How can I say... it doesn't really affect the point I made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 We always think we're not going to make any signings, until they arrive. We f***ed up last summer but the effect was made worse by other factors. We obviously need reinforcements, like every club does every window, but we still have time left. Out of curiosity, how many net transfers (in vs out) do you think we will bring in by the end of the window? Talking about first-teamers obviously. Considering we are already 3 down with Cisse, Cabaye, Gosling, Williamson and Shola possible to go I think we will bring in one and be down by around 5 or 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Ian. What have you seen or heard so far that is giving you the optimism we will sign players/improve the squad and have a good season? Not meaning to give you a hard time or anything just for me personally there is nothing positive going on at the club at the moment that gives me any hope for the coming season. I suppose you could argue no Europa league but I always believed a lot of that was down to Pardew's bullshit. Club appears from the outside looking in to be a complete mess. With this Cisse situation a perfect example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 We always think we're not going to make any signings, until they arrive. We f***ed up last summer but the effect was made worse by other factors. We obviously need reinforcements, like every club does every window, but we still have time left. Out of curiosity, how many net transfers (in vs out) do you think we will bring in by the end of the window? Talking about first-teamers obviously. Hard to say. Possibly one out if Cisse goes, otherwise probably none out. Assuming selling people like Gosling for peanuts doesn't count as important. Coming in? Two forwards and possibly a defender? How can I say... it doesn't really affect the point I made. And I take it you will be happy with a net incoming of one forward and possibly one defender? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Getting rid of squad players like Williamson would be madness at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 We always think we're not going to make any signings, until they arrive. We f***ed up last summer but the effect was made worse by other factors. We obviously need reinforcements, like every club does every window, but we still have time left. Out of curiosity, how many net transfers (in vs out) do you think we will bring in by the end of the window? Talking about first-teamers obviously. Hard to say. Possibly one out if Cisse goes, otherwise probably none out. Assuming selling people like Gosling for peanuts doesn't count as important. Coming in? Two forwards and possibly a defender? How can I say... it doesn't really affect the point I made. And I take it you will be happy with a net incoming of one forward and possibly one defender? We're not going to sign 5 or 6 players, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Ian. What have you seen or heard so far that is giving you the optimism we will sign players/improve the squad and have a good season? Not meaning to give you a hard time or anything just for me personally there is nothing positive going on at the club at the moment that gives me any hope for the coming season. I suppose you could argue no Europa league but I always believed a lot of that was down to Pardew's bullshit. Club appears from the outside looking in to be a complete mess. With this Cisse situation a perfect example. I've said it before. A fresh start, a good team of players, pressure of relegation off, motivation from last season's failure, presuming less injuries, no Europa league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 We always think we're not going to make any signings, until they arrive. We f***ed up last summer but the effect was made worse by other factors. We obviously need reinforcements, like every club does every window, but we still have time left. Out of curiosity, how many net transfers (in vs out) do you think we will bring in by the end of the window? Talking about first-teamers obviously. Hard to say. Possibly one out if Cisse goes, otherwise probably none out. Assuming selling people like Gosling for peanuts doesn't count as important. Coming in? Two forwards and possibly a defender? How can I say... it doesn't really affect the point I made. And I take it you will be happy with a net incoming of one forward and possibly one defender? We're not going to sign 5 or 6 players, man. Relax, I'm asking Ian what kind of transfer movements he'll be happy with. I know as much as everyone we will not sign 5 or 6 first-teamers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 We always think we're not going to make any signings, until they arrive. We f***ed up last summer but the effect was made worse by other factors. We obviously need reinforcements, like every club does every window, but we still have time left. Out of curiosity, how many net transfers (in vs out) do you think we will bring in by the end of the window? Talking about first-teamers obviously. Hard to say. Possibly one out if Cisse goes, otherwise probably none out. Assuming selling people like Gosling for peanuts doesn't count as important. Coming in? Two forwards and possibly a defender? How can I say... it doesn't really affect the point I made. And I take it you will be happy with a net incoming of one forward and possibly one defender? Why do you assume that? I think at the moment we don't need any defenders, but one would be nice and shift Williamson out. Forwards, we need a wide-left player (e.g. Remy) and a central striker as well. I would prefer someone young and upcoming than Bent. This is if Cisse stays, which I'm not going to assume he won't until we know. I find it a bit weird to be asked whether I'm happy with things that haven't happened. Like any fan, I would like as many signings as possible. I just think that our transfer business is generally good and I find it strange that people queue up on here to slate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 A year ago we were clever and ahead of the curve in the transfer market, yet now it feels like we're behind. Were we ? Yeah I'd say so. We'd stolen the French market, had a few success stories and bought players that shouldve been beyond us. Cabaye, Marveaux, Ben Arfa and Ba were bargains. I felt like our transfer strategy was the best thing about the club (except the fans). But not anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 A year ago we were clever and ahead of the curve in the transfer market, yet now it feels like we're behind. Were we ? Yeah I'd say so. We'd stolen the French market, had a few success stories and bought players that shouldve been beyond us. Cabaye, Marveaux, Ben Arfa and Ba were bargains. I felt like our transfer strategy was the best thing about the club (except the fans). But not anymore. Doesn't take long to work out a one trick pony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 A year ago we were clever and ahead of the curve in the transfer market, yet now it feels like we're behind. Were we ? Yeah I'd say so. We'd stolen the French market, had a few success stories and bought players that shouldve been beyond us. Cabaye, Marveaux, Ben Arfa and Ba were bargains. I felt like our transfer strategy was the best thing about the club (except the fans). But not anymore. Has it changed though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 You sounded optimistic that the club will make full use of the time left to make this a good transfer window in spite of the lack of bids so far. That's why I asked what would be your minimal expectations, that you are pleased at the end of it all that the club has not failed you. Fwiw my absolute minimal is one forward + one wide player, no outgoings and I'll be satisfied considering how Ashley rolls. Anything less than that and we would have been shortchanged once again despite them claiming to have learnt from last summer's mistakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 A year ago we were clever and ahead of the curve in the transfer market, yet now it feels like we're behind. Were we ? Yeah I'd say so. We'd stolen the French market, had a few success stories and bought players that shouldve been beyond us. Cabaye, Marveaux, Ben Arfa and Ba were bargains. I felt like our transfer strategy was the best thing about the club (except the fans). But not anymore. Has it changed though? It might well have. Perch talked about a change in transfer policy and so far we have missed out on Douglas and our closest links are to two strikers in this league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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