Dokko Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 He'll go for £20m or more if PSG/Monaco get involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Hope he does go back to France tbh, really hate seeing our (ex) players playing for someone else in our league. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Hope he does go back to France tbh, really hate seeing our (ex) players playing for someone else in our league. Was going to 'FYP' that with "someone else better in our league". Then I realised that's currently everyone. So effectively the same thing! True right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 We'd need a new first choice CM if Cabaye goes, like. That'll cost a fair bit. Marveux won't stay fit for a season to take on that and Anita and Sissoko aren't the right players. Tiote doesn't get a mention. s***, I just did. If we get 15m for Cabaye, how much is a solid, straight in, hit the ground running replacement going to cost? 10m? Then we still need a winger and a Striker. A lot of work in 2 weeks for the plebs we have in charge. Unless Carr and Charnley say to Ashley, "aye, we'll fly out with Joe, keep him company, keep him off the lager", then tie him up in the baggage area. If Sissoko can't play that role then what position has he been brought here to play? CM. But he isn't a passing/ball playing CM what so ever. Is he? He should be the muscle and drive. Someone else should be the ball winner/interceptor and someone else should be the clever, passing, creator. If he's not a defensive mid then he could surely play as an attacking one in front of say Anita. He's not a direct replacement for Cabaye but you could still play him in a 442. Especially in a Parade shoe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Doesn't really matter what happens to him now. Any respect a fan had for him before should be gone after a stunt like this - assuming he refused to play, of course. Even if we did get 20 million for him, I don't think it would be fully reinvested anyway. Even if it was, I can't see it being in a proper quality replacement / upgrade. They're likely to be misused / played out of position anyway. Suppose he stays and this thing blows over this window, he'll either have to be a fully committed pro (which doesn't seem to be the case at the moment) or he'll sulk and twist until January / next summer. Whatever happens is going to be depressing in any case. It's a shame we couldn't appoint a manager who will dare to be ambitious, or play to his players main strengths. We might actually do quite well in keeping players of this calibre Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Doesn't really matter what happens to him now. Any respect a fan had for him before should be gone after a stunt like this - assuming he refused to play, of course. Even if we did get 20 million for him, I don't think it would be fully reinvested anyway. Even if it was, I can't see it being in a proper quality replacement / upgrade. They're likely to be misused / played out of position anyway. Suppose he stays and this thing blows over this window, he'll either have to be a fully committed pro (which doesn't seem to be the case at the moment) or he'll sulk and twist until January / next summer. Whatever happens is going to be depressing in any case. It's a shame we couldn't appoint a manager who will dare to be ambitious, or play to his players main strengths. We might actually do quite well in keeping players of this calibre Quite a big assumption. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 If that's wrong then, the club pulled him. Which is preferable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 If that's wrong then, the club pulled him. Which is preferable? Pardew leaving him out, if Pardew felt Cabaye's mind wasn't on the game and withdrew him becasue of it, that's certainly better than Cabaye refusing to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 If that's wrong then, the club pulled him. Which is preferable? Neither's very good. But at least if the club pulled him because Pardew didn't think his head was right, then there's a better chance his head can improve, or was OK to begin with, and he can come back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 If that's wrong then, the club pulled him. Which is preferable? Neither's very good. But at least if the club pulled him because Pardew didn't think his head was right, then there's a better chance his head can improve, or was OK to begin with, and he can come back. That's not going to happen now, like. Unless we get to the end of the window without agreeing a deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 If that's wrong then, the club pulled him. Which is preferable? Neither's very good. But at least if the club pulled him because Pardew didn't think his head was right, then there's a better chance his head can improve, or was OK to begin with, and he can come back. That's not going to happen now, like. Unless we get to the end of the window without agreeing a deal. Nah I know it's unlikely, I was just answering the question about refusing to play versus being withdrawn by the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I don't see any difference then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Do we know that he even traveled to Manchester? As the news from North London yesterday was the bid came in on Friday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Just don't sell him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorin Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 He was long gone when that first bid came through the fax machine... I srsly highly doubt he REFUSED to play, more that Pardew thought Cabaye was ready to leave (mind wasn't on the game), but could we have done much worse with him in the team than we did without? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 If he wants to leave, he should put a transfer request in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 If he wants to leave, he should put a transfer request in. Even then, I'd love for us to say "no, you're going nowhere until we've got a replacement". I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 If he wants to leave, he should put a transfer request in. and lose his 'loyalty' bonus? Why would he want to do that when it's pretty clear the club are willing to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 If he wants to leave, he should put a transfer request in. I got told that he didn't want to go down route of transfer request as he would stay if offers weren't made but he would prefer a move away preferably back to France and Monaco if they came calling, but he wouldn’t be kicking up a fuss to do so. Obviously when situation pans on things could change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Do we know that he even traveled to Manchester? As the news from North London yesterday was the bid came in on Friday. He travelled with the team on Sunday but returned home before the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Do we know that he even traveled to Manchester? As the news from North London yesterday was the bid came in on Friday. The journos on Monday night seemed pretty convinced he'd travelled aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 If he wants to leave, he should put a transfer request in. and lose his 'loyalty' bonus? Why would he want to do that when it's pretty clear the club are willing to sell. I'm a bit confused over the loyalty bonus. I always thought that players were entitled to bonuses for each year they complete and that is what they did not want to lose. But I heard a discussion with ex-players on the radio recently where they said the club had to pay up the entire contract which seems totally wrong to me as surely that would mean the player was getting paid twice. Cabaye is going to easily double his wages with this move so I don't see why he can't put in a transfer request although Ashley does have history here (Carroll and Given) in managing to get players to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Do we know that he even traveled to Manchester? As the news from North London yesterday was the bid came in on Friday. The journos on Monday night seemed pretty convinced he'd travelled aye. Fair enough. Got to wonder if we would had played if the transfer had been leaked or not? They could had easily used he injury card to say why he wasn't playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Where to start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Don't people see? Cabaye wants to leave yes but the club also wants to cash in. It will be typical nufc a mutual transfer but the fans blame the player. At the end of the day cabaye came under the promise of regular European football, in that time the club has continued to show a lack of ambition. Put yourself in his shoes would you want to stay around? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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