Ikon Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 God how much we'd give for a owner prepared to see the chance we have to kick on from now, and willing to seize it and sign 2 top quality players. Not only to make our team/squad better but also give current players a massive boost and belief that we CAN reach the top 4 with a bit of luck and determination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Hopefully he will have a cracking world cup and add on 10 mill to his value, I expect France to flop massively though. I doubt it'll be because of him though, he'll bust a gut for them while Nasri bottles it Aye, I remember a little while ago loads of French journalists voted him as the 2nd best player for the national team (Ribery swept up) because he was the one player you could rely on every time. the french media think he's came on massively since coming here aswell, loads more to his game etc. Better competition, more physical league, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 He doesn't but he controlled midfield far better than Cabaye does, and that's what I'd look for first in a CM. Agreed. But tbf, that's not really been asked of Cabaye. Though I think he is underrated as a defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 He doesn't but he controlled midfield far better than Cabaye does, and that's what I'd look for first in a CM. Agreed. But tbf, that's not really been asked of Cabaye. Though I think he is underrated as a defender. Controlling midfield has never been asked of our best CM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 As I said in the rumours thread: - PSG are in the Champions League and they will probably match any wages he could get elsewhere but would Cabaye want to go back to the French league at this point in his career? He has said himself that playing in the Premiership has improved him as a player. I can see him wanting to leave in the Summer if one of the top world sides comes in for him (unless by some miracle we qualify for the Champions League and he might decide to stay) but I doubt he'd want to leave in January with the World Cup coming up. It would be a bit of a risk for Cabaye to move to PSG in January. He is a certain starter with us but would he be with PSG? He also has his place at the World Cup to worry about. Are his family happy here or would they prefer to move to Paris? If Cabaye asks to leave at least we should get a lot of money for him and we won't have to face him in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 He doesn't but he controlled midfield far better than Cabaye does, and that's what I'd look for first in a CM. Agreed. But tbf, that's not really been asked of Cabaye. Though I think he is underrated as a defender. Controlling midfield has never been asked of our best CM? In terms of controlling tempo, sure. In terms of physically controlling midfield ala Schweinsteiger (for example, not a comparison), I don't think so. Tiote's often tasked with that responsibility, even given license to push forward in that pursuit. IMO, Cabaye's best position is still a bit further forward, creating chances, or as a deep-lying playmaker in a 3-man midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I wasn't talking about controlling midfield physically, and that wasn't really how prime Speed did it, either. Anyway, fuck it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 No way would I sell in January unless it was for phenomenal money. Wait until after the World Cup if he has to go. Which I hope he doesn't, of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Get French Football @GFN_France 42m Alan Pardew: 'I do not fear a Yohan departure. I know he is a fantastic footballer and that he can still improve.' #NUFC #PSG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I honestly don't know why PSG want him, will only stunt the process of Veratti and he's a very good footballer 1) He's French. 2) They need depth in CM. It'll help them compete in the Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 As if they know... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2529145/Arsenal-told-cost-22million-playmaker-Cabaye-Toon.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 £22m.. its not enough! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 £22m is a lot but we could weasel more out of PSG if necessary. Prefer not to sell him while we are doing so well and who would we buy to replace him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Probably a fair price but I still wouldn't want him to be sold on this form. Last season was poor from him, now he's got a World Cup to play for he's in the form of his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
basjen Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Selling him for less than Fellaini? No way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 He would fit well in PSG. Cabaye as the advanced midfielder rotating with Pastore. Matuidi playing the destroyer with veratti playing as the regista Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Selling him for less than Fellaini? No way. The transfer market has too much variance to have a standard. Otherwise you'd be looking at any striker who scores more than 10 goals in a season being worth £35m cos that's what Liverpool paid for Carroll. Man United paid that much due to the combination of a clause and desperation. Is Cabaye better than Fellaini? On this form, yes. We'll not necessarily get as much for Cabaye as Everton did for Fellaini though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Clubs will take into account that he wanted away last summer, that he had a poor season last year, and that he's performing out of his skin with a World Cup on the horizon. First bid we get over £15m and his agent and Cabaye will be agitating for a move. I don't think we have much bargaining power unless we finish top 4 and invest in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Clubs will take into account that he wanted away last summer, that he had a poor season last year, and that he's performing out of his skin with a World Cup on the horizon. First bid we get over £15m and his agent and Cabaye will be agitating for a move. I don't think we have much bargaining power unless we finish top 4 and invest in the summer. He's our player under contract that's as much bargaining power as we need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Contracts are worth very little when a player wants away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Contracts are worth very little when a player wants away. What about Cabaye in August? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Arsenal offered a daft price and Cabaye had the qualification for the World Cup to think of. We apparently told them our valuation which was shy of £20m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Contracts are worth very little when a player wants away. On the contrary we kept hold of him in august because our valuation wasn't met and it will be exactly the same in January. He's our player we set the asking price, if he doesn't like it too bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10537577/Newcastle-United-v-Stoke-City-Alan-Pardews-team-exceeding-expectations-and-eyeing-a-place-in-Europe.html Newcastle’s form has mirrored that of their playmaker Yohan Cabaye. The France international was desperate to leave the club at the end of last season and went on strike in the summer when a £10.1m bid from Arsenal was rejected by Ashley. But the midfielder has refocused since that unpleasant episode and has been hugely impressive, something Pardew feels is a just reward for the club’s refusal to be bullied into selling him. The club have a gentlemen’s agreement in place with Cabaye and his agent which means he will not agitate to leave again in the January window, although Pardew does not see why he would want to. “He's in an environment where he's got pole position and he’s benefiting from that,” he said. “You don't always get that. You can get lost at some clubs [and just be a squad player].” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 What is it with Arsenal and weird bids? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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