Away Toon Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 His wage would have gone up substantially when he signed for PSG, and unless we are going to match what he's now getting this is not happening. Players talk about ambition and playing for winning teams, but not if they have to take a pay cut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 His wage would have gone up substantially when he signed for PSG, and unless we are going to match what he's now getting this is not happening. Players talk about ambition and playing for winning teams, but not if they have to take a pay cut. Do you think Palace will offer him more?! He'll have to take a cut if his options are us or them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Not convinced either us or Palace are an option for him, who knows if either are interested or can afford it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Strange how his career's turned out, like. I never would've had him down for top class but it's been a real let down when you consider how good his right foot is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 It could only be a very minor setback, depends where he ends up next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 He'll be 30 this time next year and his best option appears to be Crystal Palace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 He's slow though. Getting around the pitch is hard for him and it's only going to get harder. He also struggles when under pressure. He's good at a lot of roles but doesn't excel at the highest level in any. His ceiling is a good squad player for a top side. Or a regular in a top 8 PL side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 He'll be 30 this time next year and his best option appears to be Crystal Palace. Well we don't really know that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I never was massively impressed with him here. Yes he was good but IMO rarely ran a game. He would go missing in large parts of games. He seemed to me a player who has moments in matches. Not a dominant midfielder, which we haven't had since Speed. Would I have him back? Of course but he shouldn't be priority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 That's true. He played his best football in the final months of his time here in an advanced role. As a midfielder he never really controlled the game the way the likes of Carrick do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Mainly due to the style of play we employed IMO, for France at major international tournaments he looked great in a deeper role i don't see why he couldn't for someone in the Premier League if the coach wasn't a moron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 That's true. He played his best football in the final months of his time here in an advanced role. As a midfielder he never really controlled the game the way the likes of Carrick do. With respect I'd disagree. They're two different players. If argue that Cabaye was a hell of lot more capable of providing a killer ball or a goal than Carrick. Carrick is consistent in breaking up play and putting the ball to a more creative player but Cabaye is definitely more of an attacking force. I'd argue with anyone who thinks Carrick "controlled" a game. He may have disrupted another teams attack but he's never pulled the strings like Cabaye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Mainly due to the style of play we employed IMO, for France at major international tournaments he looked great in a deeper role i don't see why he couldn't for someone in the Premier League if the coach wasn't a moron. If Cabaye was so stifled by Pardew he wouldn't have so many good things to say about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 That's true. He played his best football in the final months of his time here in an advanced role. As a midfielder he never really controlled the game the way the likes of Carrick do. With respect I'd disagree. They're two different players. If argue that Cabaye was a hell of lot more capable of providing a killer ball or a goal than Carrick. Carrick is consistent in breaking up play and putting the ball to a more creative player but Cabaye is definitely more of an attacking force. I'd argue with anyone who thinks Carrick "controlled" a game. He may have disrupted another teams attack but he's never pulled the strings like Cabaye. Which is why he'll finish up with the far better career. Carrrick's been 'pulling the strings' in PL games for a decade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Cabaye played in a counter attacking team with us though. We rarely set out to dominate matches. We often where outnumbered in central midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 If Cabaye was so stifled by Pardew he wouldn't have so many good things to say about him. I don't think he was stifled either though. For decent parts of his time here it worked. Cabaye was the main man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Mainly due to the style of play we employed IMO, for France at major international tournaments he looked great in a deeper role i don't see why he couldn't for someone in the Premier League if the coach wasn't a moron. If Cabaye was so stifled by Pardew he wouldn't have so many good things to say about him. He let him do what he wants so i'm not that surprised, doesn't mean it was right though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Mainly due to the style of play we employed IMO, for France at major international tournaments he looked great in a deeper role i don't see why he couldn't for someone in the Premier League if the coach wasn't a moron. If Cabaye was so stifled by Pardew he wouldn't have so many good things to say about him. He let him do what he wants so i'm not that surprised, doesn't mean it was right though. Depends if we think Cabaye has any ambition. Top players don't want to work with coaches who don't improve them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 That's fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Mainly due to the style of play we employed IMO, for France at major international tournaments he looked great in a deeper role i don't see why he couldn't for someone in the Premier League if the coach wasn't a moron. If Cabaye was so stifled by Pardew he wouldn't have so many good things to say about him. He let him do what he wants so i'm not that surprised, doesn't mean it was right though. Depends if we think Cabaye has any ambition. Top players don't want to work with coaches who don't improve them. Don't think it's ambition in that light. It was said Cabaye would come into training early and stay late and practice more because he felt the training was very short. He probably see's the improvement on the training field as a personal thing. And he seems determined in that aspect. What Pardew gives him is someone that builds a team around him on a Saturday, someone that thinks he's top class and someone who he played his best football under. He's not Timothy Krul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 That's true. He played his best football in the final months of his time here in an advanced role. As a midfielder he never really controlled the game the way the likes of Carrick do. With respect I'd disagree. They're two different players. If argue that Cabaye was a hell of lot more capable of providing a killer ball or a goal than Carrick. Carrick is consistent in breaking up play and putting the ball to a more creative player but Cabaye is definitely more of an attacking force. I'd argue with anyone who thinks Carrick "controlled" a game. He may have disrupted another teams attack but he's never pulled the strings like Cabaye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Carrick doesn't just give the ball to a better player beside him like a pure holding midfielder though. His range of passing, including forward, is superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 He was ace together with Tiote the season we ended 5th. They definitely controlled games, Manure at home springs to mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 He was ace together with Tiote the season we ended 5th. They definitely controlled games, Manure at home springs to mind. I'd say we controlled games defensively not offensively, not necessarily Cabaye's fault though everyone knows the limitations of a flat 442. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 He's basically perfected in a midfield three with two runners. People should stop making out like he's got the pace of Laurent Blanc in has last playing days; Cabaye covered a hell of a lot ground and he played for a team that had 4-6 game charges of excellence followed by 8-12 games of utter disgusting football. He's still a top top player and he'd walk straight Into our team. He's no world class cm but he def an excellent player just under the world class bracket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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