Minhosa Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 On the plus side at least we wouldn't have to listen to Pardew try and flog him in every press conference he gives. It'll be someone else next. I am absolutely 100% convinced AP is on a bonus for % profit on transfers. I really would love to know where this daft notion came from apart from ridiculous paranoia Here's where it comes from................ AP is pretty much the worst paid manager in the top tier. MA pays all of his key staff bonuses based on performance in every single one of his businesses. It has been widely reported that MA has given AP an 'incentives' based contract - Llambias said so when he was in charge in his programme notes. Given that we know the top 4 is a pipe dream and unrealistic the next best thing is Europa league which we know the club don't want. So what is AP's target? Finish as close to, but not in, the Europa League every year and he'll get what? A sports direct mug? If MA's incentive is to tick the business over in as positive a financial state as humanly possible to attract a buyer at a premium, AP is absolutely vital in that. Which other managers would accept their best players being sold from under them and be completely complicit in it? What is the incentive for AP? Can only be financial. Call that paranoia if you wish. I'll call it reality. he has nothing at all to do with transfers so why in gods name would Ashley pay him for one? and as for the bold, anyone not in the champions league, its not nice I don't like it but the gap between the haves and the have nots is huge and only getting bigger. Of course he's got something to do with transfers.............he's the daft cunt telling the press how 'readily available' they are. We are not a 'have not' we are a 'choose not to have' and there's a world of difference. Get that right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I like the way everyone has concluded that this is a done deal that's how negative the club has become. It doesn't look good but, you never know what is happening. From what I can see it came from a 20/21 year old on twitter. Why are you questioning it? Not unless a load of other random people are in on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 You know what's going to happen. We wont pay enough for Cabella so that'll fall through. Then we'll still sell Cabaye as we're safe. God that could be true couldn't it :'( We wont get Cabella in first, and the Montpellier bosses would be falling over themselves to fuck us over. Could be fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 s*** anyway. and hideously ugly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Enrique went because of ambition too but he got slagged to fuck for it. Aye but he went to play for fucking Kenny Dalglish at a shite Liverpool. Who finished below us and now sit only 6 points above us. Didn't work out that well. http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01460/JoseEnrique_532x53_1460891a.jpg FIN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Believe this is bullshit, not a chance we are making sure we've got a replacement in place before selling someone. Far too logical for my liking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Can we have a new owner, please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I like the way everyone has concluded that this is a done deal that's how negative the club has become. It doesn't look good but, you never know what is happening. From what I can see it came from a 20/21 year old on twitter. Why are you questioning it? Not unless a load of other random people are in on it. Because they have French sounding names? I suppose Jean Micloud and Pierre Sossison are more reputable than those who retweet Colin Warris's tweets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Still within touching distance of Europe and if true we are looking to offload our best player. Sums up this club. Thing is, we aren't good enough to qualify for the Champions League (or at least there are better/more consistent teams up there), and they clearly don't fancy another stint in the Europa League (Fatigue, etc), so whats left to achieve this season, other than the 'top 10 finish', which seems to be all they (Ashley at least) want? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 You know what's going to happen. We wont pay enough for Cabella so that'll fall through. Then we'll still sell Cabaye as we're safe. God that could be true couldn't it :'( We wont get Cabella in first, and the Montpellier bosses would be falling over themselves to fuck us over. Could be fun. Not the word i'd choose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 You know what's going to happen. We wont pay enough for Cabella so that'll fall through. Then we'll still sell Cabaye as we're safe. God that could be true couldn't it :'( We wont get Cabella in first, and the Montpellier bosses would be falling over themselves to fuck us over. Could be fun. Won't matter. We'd still walk away from any deal not on our terms. 16th place finish would do NUFC, so why should they give a fuck? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Never rated him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 On the plus side at least we wouldn't have to listen to Pardew try and flog him in every press conference he gives. It'll be someone else next. I am absolutely 100% convinced AP is on a bonus for % profit on transfers. I really would love to know where this daft notion came from apart from ridiculous paranoia Here's where it comes from................ AP is pretty much the worst paid manager in the top tier. MA pays all of his key staff bonuses based on performance in every single one of his businesses. It has been widely reported that MA has given AP an 'incentives' based contract - Llambias said so when he was in charge in his programme notes. Given that we know the top 4 is a pipe dream and unrealistic the next best thing is Europa league which we know the club don't want. So what is AP's target? Finish as close to, but not in, the Europa League every year and he'll get what? A sports direct mug? If MA's incentive is to tick the business over in as positive a financial state as humanly possible to attract a buyer at a premium, AP is absolutely vital in that. Which other managers would accept their best players being sold from under them and be completely complicit in it? What is the incentive for AP? Can only be financial. Call that paranoia if you wish. I'll call it reality. It's utter bunkum. We know quite a bit about Pardew and all the staff and players bonus schemes. There is absolutely sod all evidence for what you're suggesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Believe this is bullshit, not a chance we are making sure we've got a replacement in place before selling someone. Far too logical for my liking. That's the only thing we can cling to, we wouldn't be waiting for a replacement if we had a deal worked out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I am curious about any actual journalistic sources to this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Without lapsing into 'body language' I did wonder if him giving his shirt to the fans at the end meant anything. I think that was just because he was getting so much love from the fans with the nonstop singing of his name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 My concern here is whether this €26m really IS dependent on Cabella signing, or whether we'll sell anyway. If Cabella joins and he goes then fair enough, just as long as we don't get a Carroll situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 On the plus side at least we wouldn't have to listen to Pardew try and flog him in every press conference he gives. It'll be someone else next. I am absolutely 100% convinced AP is on a bonus for % profit on transfers. I really would love to know where this daft notion came from apart from ridiculous paranoia Here's where it comes from................ AP is pretty much the worst paid manager in the top tier. MA pays all of his key staff bonuses based on performance in every single one of his businesses. It has been widely reported that MA has given AP an 'incentives' based contract - Llambias said so when he was in charge in his programme notes. Given that we know the top 4 is a pipe dream and unrealistic the next best thing is Europa league which we know the club don't want. So what is AP's target? Finish as close to, but not in, the Europa League every year and he'll get what? A sports direct mug? If MA's incentive is to tick the business over in as positive a financial state as humanly possible to attract a buyer at a premium, AP is absolutely vital in that. Which other managers would accept their best players being sold from under them and be completely complicit in it? What is the incentive for AP? Can only be financial. Call that paranoia if you wish. I'll call it reality. It's utter bunkum. We know quite a bit about Pardew and all the staff and players bonus schemes. There is absolutely sod all evidence for what you're suggesting. Tell me what you know about Pardew and the staff's bonus schemes......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Know what this happens every year. Just have to deal with it and move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Can we have a new owner, please? Unless a new owner was an Arab multi-billionare, would a new owner really make a difference? The sums needed to repeatedly break into the top four are now vast, and the second tier of Europe is an utter joke. It's only natural any top class play aspires to play in a Champs League club. That's where the money and prestige is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I like the way everyone has concluded that this is a done deal that's how negative the club has become. It doesn't look good but, you never know what is happening. From what I can see it came from a 20/21 year old on twitter. Why are you questioning it? Not unless a load of other random people are in on it. Because they have French sounding names? I suppose Jean Micloud and Pierre Sossison are more reputable than those who retweet Colin Warris's tweets. Because they were watching Canal+ too at the time. https://twitter.com/antnparis/status/424991323645833216 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Darren Lewis from the Mirror said on the radio earlier that he had interviewed Cabaye after he game yesterday and he had some interesting quotes. He wouldn't expand on it but I don't think it will be anything particularly noteworthy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Can we have a new owner, please? Unless a new owner was an Arab multi-billionare, would a new owner really make a difference? The sums needed to repeatedly break into the top four are now vast, and the second tier of Europe is an utter joke. It's only natural any top class play aspires to play in a Champs League club. That's where the money and prestige is. I'd like an owner that would spend some of the clubs cash and run it professionally. An arab owner wouldn't be needed for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I like the way everyone has concluded that this is a done deal that's how negative the club has become. It doesn't look good but, you never know what is happening. From what I can see it came from a 20/21 year old on twitter. Why are you questioning it? Not unless a load of other random people are in on it. Because they have French sounding names? I suppose Jean Micloud and Pierre Sossison are more reputable than those who retweet Colin Warris's tweets. Because they were watching Canal+ too at the time. https://twitter.com/antnparis/status/424991323645833216 And Caj is down <a href="http://reactiongifs.com/?p=15225"><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/slammed.gif"></a> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merseyside Mag Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I like the way everyone has concluded that this is a done deal that's how negative the club has become. It doesn't look good but, you never know what is happening. From what I can see it came from a 20/21 year old on twitter. Why are you questioning it? Not unless a load of other random people are in on it. Because they have French sounding names? I suppose Jean Micloud and Pierre Sossison are more reputable than those who retweet Colin Warris's tweets. Let's just see what happens. Social media is the devil, yet I'll search high and low through it all the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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