AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I think he's a really talented player and I'd be frustrated if he left - but I can't see how it would be a massive loss. Pardew doesn't know how best to use him so I'm not exactly sure what we'd be losing. His level of performance has varied because he hasn't held down a role which is most beneficial for the team. I blame the manager for that, even if the player has under-performed on occasion. Him leaving, having never fulfilled his potential, would just typify the evolution of the squad under this manager. It's out-grown him, simple as that. This expresses my opinion in a far better way than I ever could. I know what you're saying, but I think it's a bit silly to accept the sale of all our best players just because Pardew is the manager. What do you mean by 'accept'? At best, the fans have an extremely minor influence on what happens at the club. Galvanising the players on a match-day is about the extent of the influence we have. The only other way is to boycoutt, but that will never happen on a scale to force the owners to take notice. I'd be gutted if Cabaye left but we'd have to 'accept' it. Just as we do with every single decision that is made. I mean, not consider it a loss. That seemed to be what you were suggesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I think he's a really talented player and I'd be frustrated if he left - but I can't see how it would be a massive loss. Pardew doesn't know how best to use him so I'm not exactly sure what we'd be losing. His level of performance has varied because he hasn't held down a role which is most beneficial for the team. I blame the manager for that, even if the player has under-performed on occasion. Him leaving, having never fulfilled his potential, would just typify the evolution of the squad under this manager. It's out-grown him, simple as that. This expresses my opinion in a far better way than I ever could. I know what you're saying, but I think it's a bit silly to accept the sale of all our best players just because Pardew is the manager. What do you mean by 'accept'? At best, the fans have an extremely minor influence on what happens at the club. Galvanising the players on a match-day is about the extent of the influence we have. The only other way is to boycoutt, but that will never happen on a scale to force the owners to take notice. I'd be gutted if Cabaye left but we'd have to 'accept' it. Just as we do with every single decision that is made. I mean, not consider it a loss. That seemed to be what you were suggesting. There would be a loss to some extent, but I wouldn't see it having a major effect. Any effect he has on the team is totally diluted by the fact he's never played in the right position. I'm just repeating myself now, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 If he leaves, it will give us loads of £££. Think about all the fantastic players JFK can manage to get in with his unparalleled international network of scouts and managers + MA`s backing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I think he's a really talented player and I'd be frustrated if he left - but I can't see how it would be a massive loss. Pardew doesn't know how best to use him so I'm not exactly sure what we'd be losing. His level of performance has varied because he hasn't held down a role which is most beneficial for the team. I blame the manager for that, even if the player has under-performed on occasion. Him leaving, having never fulfilled his potential, would just typify the evolution of the squad under this manager. It's out-grown him, simple as that. This expresses my opinion in a far better way than I ever could. I know what you're saying, but I think it's a bit silly to accept the sale of all our best players just because Pardew is the manager. Would YOU want to work for a boss who you thought was a dickhead, or who couldn't use all the abilities of you and your fellow-workers..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I think he's a really talented player and I'd be frustrated if he left - but I can't see how it would be a massive loss. Pardew doesn't know how best to use him so I'm not exactly sure what we'd be losing. His level of performance has varied because he hasn't held down a role which is most beneficial for the team. I blame the manager for that, even if the player has under-performed on occasion. Him leaving, having never fulfilled his potential, would just typify the evolution of the squad under this manager. It's out-grown him, simple as that. This expresses my opinion in a far better way than I ever could. I know what you're saying, but I think it's a bit silly to accept the sale of all our best players just because Pardew is the manager. Would YOU want to work for a boss who you thought was a dickhead, or who couldn't use all the abilities of you and your fellow-workers..? Course not, but what evidence is there that Pardew thinks that? And even if he does, how does that effect whether or not PSG will bid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 If his sale allowed us to buy say McCarthy or Hughes and a centre half to replace Moke then I'd be reluctantly ok with it. I've no doubt the money wouldn't be reinvested though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Dawg UK Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 In fairness none of us know what goes on behind the scenes ... You would like to think with his best mate living and playing alongside him it would influence his decison to stay/leave, but as with most the lure of financial reward, better job prospects usually wins in the end ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 In fairness none of us know what goes on behind the scenes ... You would like to think with his best mate living and playing alongside him it would influence his decison to stay/leave, but as with most the lure of financial reward, better job prospects usually wins in the end ! They haven't even bid though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 In fairness none of us know what goes on behind the scenes ... You would like to think with his best mate living and playing alongside him it would influence his decison to stay/leave, but as with most the lure of financial reward, better job prospects usually wins in the end ! They haven't even bid though. In fairness none of us know what goes on behind the scenes ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Even with loads of money PSG at some point have to bring sense in to the equitation. So maybe they are wondering if they even need him, they certainly aren't desperate if so he'd be there. Also he might not be their number one target. Thei interest could be like ours with bent only we need a striker more than they need a midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I think he's a really talented player and I'd be frustrated if he left - but I can't see how it would be a massive loss. Pardew doesn't know how best to use him so I'm not exactly sure what we'd be losing. His level of performance has varied because he hasn't held down a role which is most beneficial for the team. I blame the manager for that, even if the player has under-performed on occasion. Him leaving, having never fulfilled his potential, would just typify the evolution of the squad under this manager. It's out-grown him, simple as that. This expresses my opinion in a far better way than I ever could. I know what you're saying, but I think it's a bit silly to accept the sale of all our best players just because Pardew is the manager. Would YOU want to work for a boss who you thought was a dickhead, or who couldn't use all the abilities of you and your fellow-workers..? Course not, but what evidence is there that Pardew thinks that? And even if he does, how does that effect whether or not PSG will bid? Its not about what Pardew thinks - its about what Cabaye thinks of him. We are going to lose the best players over time because they know Pardew is a poor manager and we are going nowhere under him....look at Jonas' comments about fitness, and he is one of Pardew's favourites.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I think he's a really talented player and I'd be frustrated if he left - but I can't see how it would be a massive loss. Pardew doesn't know how best to use him so I'm not exactly sure what we'd be losing. His level of performance has varied because he hasn't held down a role which is most beneficial for the team. I blame the manager for that, even if the player has under-performed on occasion. Him leaving, having never fulfilled his potential, would just typify the evolution of the squad under this manager. It's out-grown him, simple as that. This expresses my opinion in a far better way than I ever could. I know what you're saying, but I think it's a bit silly to accept the sale of all our best players just because Pardew is the manager. Would YOU want to work for a boss who you thought was a dickhead, or who couldn't use all the abilities of you and your fellow-workers..? Course not, but what evidence is there that Pardew thinks that? And even if he does, how does that effect whether or not PSG will bid? Its not about what Pardew thinks - its about what Cabaye thinks of him. We are going to lose the best players over time because they know Pardew is a poor manager and we are going nowhere under him....look at Jonas' comments about fitness, and he is one of Pardew's favourites.... Absolutely zero indication that any player has any issue with him. Plenty of evidence to the contrary. Yet this line is still being bandied about. Jonas' comments were centred around training being 'too easy' due to the recovery sessions, post Europa games. Pardew agreed with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I think he's a really talented player and I'd be frustrated if he left - but I can't see how it would be a massive loss. Pardew doesn't know how best to use him so I'm not exactly sure what we'd be losing. His level of performance has varied because he hasn't held down a role which is most beneficial for the team. I blame the manager for that, even if the player has under-performed on occasion. Him leaving, having never fulfilled his potential, would just typify the evolution of the squad under this manager. It's out-grown him, simple as that. . Sadly, I think some people are only going to realise just how good some of our players are when they see them excelling in another team's colours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I think he's a really talented player and I'd be frustrated if he left - but I can't see how it would be a massive loss. Pardew doesn't know how best to use him so I'm not exactly sure what we'd be losing. His level of performance has varied because he hasn't held down a role which is most beneficial for the team. I blame the manager for that, even if the player has under-performed on occasion. Him leaving, having never fulfilled his potential, would just typify the evolution of the squad under this manager. It's out-grown him, simple as that. . Sadly, I think some people are only going to realise just how good some of our players are when they see them excelling in another team's colours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 That was meant to be happening this summer, wasn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Yep. Cabaye is probably brilliant but we'll never see that here. Not consistently and certainly not with 'him' in charge. Shame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 My bold prediction is that Cabaye will still be playing for us at the end of the transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 He's 27, in the middle of a 5 year contract and (I assume..............) he's pretty much at his peak value. The older he gets or the further his contract runs down the less cash we'll get for him. I can see where the temptation would come from to flog him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 That's fair enough but if they are thinking that then they should buy or have already lined up a replacement. Pardew is making sounds that it will be the Carroll situation all over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Looks pretty damn good when he plays for France like He's had more anonymous games than brilliant games for us mind and is also prone to the odd over the top nasty tackle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 A whole season? Under this manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 That's fair enough but if they are thinking that then they should buy or have already lined up a replacement. Pardew is making sounds that it will be the Carroll situation all over again. Agree with that Alex. No excuse for not having a replacement lined up. It's not like an extra CM would go amiss in the event any Cabaye sale fell through. Unfortunately not the way these guys think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 That's fair enough but if they are thinking that then they should buy or have already lined up a replacement. Pardew is making sounds that it will be the Carroll situation all over again. Agree with that Alex. No excuse for not having a replacement lined up. It's not like an extra CM would go amiss in the event any Cabaye sale fell through. Unfortunately not the way these guys think. I'd suspect the opposite tbh. Anita, Bigirimana, Cabaye, Tiote, Gosling, Sissoko all battling for 2 or 3 spaces. Expendable as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Out of interest isn't he the top scoring 'outside of the box' goalscorer in the league since he signed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 A whole season? Under this manager? Nah Looks pretty damn good when he plays for France like He's had more anonymous games than brilliant games for us mind and is also prone to the odd over the top nasty tackle. Don't know if I'd agree with that. Was consistently good the whole first season with us Colour me confused. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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