Wilson Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 It remains to be seen whether a player who has been hankering for a move in the last two transfer windows finally leaves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual. Yep. It's pointless getting annoyed by it. For me, he hasn't acted like a prick. He's obviously keeping his options open, which he has the right to do. The latest interview, whilst undesirable, has been blown out of all proportion. If he stays, great. If he leaves, we move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual. Given his moves from Germany and how we got him its anything but surprising. You dont have the advisors or clause unless you have a desire to move on if better chances arrive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual. Especially when we buy them in the smoke and daggers way that we do, targeting permanently unsettled players and players on knock-off deals. They knew what they were getting when they bought Ba, both on and off-field. He turned up at West Ham after going on strike and had a very similar clause that we profited from. It's funny to see how the more rhetoric the club puts out the more turn against him, it's like all our sales recently. They're not daft lads are Dekka and Slim Mike. As long as he keeps playing well and scoring/creating goals I couldn't give a shit tbh, modern football is modern football unfortunately. Give me a mercenary producing the goods like Ba or Jose or Nolan over some slack jawed yokel loyal player like Taylor or Shola any day of the week. It's also weird how many people who are disgusted with Ba lap it up when a player throws some comments our way. You can't have it both ways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual. Its not unusual to have clubs after our top players no but it is to have a stupid £7.5m clause hanging over us transfer window after transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual. Yep. It's pointless getting annoyed by it. For me, he hasn't acted like a prick. He's obviously keeping his options open, which he has the right to do. The latest interview, whilst undesirable, has been blown out of all proportion. If he stays, great. If he leaves, we move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual. Its not unusual to have clubs after our top players no but it is to have a stupid £7.5m clause hanging over us transfer window after transfer window. True, but that's a detail. Even if there wasn't a clause his agent would be looking for a better deal for him and the press would be stirring it. It does make it more scary for us obviously, but I still think the deal for potential buyers isn't as sweet as it sounds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual. Its not unusual to have clubs after our top players no but it is to have a stupid £7.5m clause hanging over us transfer window after transfer window. What if the only way he would sign for us was to have that clause? Stupid £7.5m > Missing out on a quality striker. We werent the only ones in for him at the time so the chances are we didnt have a choice but accept if we wanted him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual. Especially when we buy them in the smoke and daggers way that we do, targeting permanently unsettled players and players on knock-off deals. They knew what they were getting when they bought Ba, both on and off-field. He turned up at West Ham after going on strike and had a very similar clause that we profited from. It's funny to see how the more rhetoric the club puts out the more turn against him, it's like all our sales recently. They're not daft lads are Dekka and Slim Mike. As long as he keeps playing well and scoring/creating goals I couldn't give a shit tbh, modern football is modern football unfortunately. Give me a mercenary producing the goods like Ba or Jose or Nolan over some slack jawed yokel loyal player like Taylor or Shola any day of the week. It's also weird how many people who are disgusted with Ba lap it up when a player throws some comments our way. You can't have it both ways. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual. Its not unusual to have clubs after our top players no but it is to have a stupid £7.5m clause hanging over us transfer window after transfer window. What if the only way he would sign for us was to have that clause? Stupid £7.5m > Missing out on a quality striker. We werent the only ones in for him at the time so the chances are we didnt have a choice but accept if we wanted him. As I said in the other thread, it might even be that Ba wanted the clause set at something like £5m, so we actually did OK to make him that bit less attractive to buyers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual. Its not unusual to have clubs after our top players no but it is to have a stupid £7.5m clause hanging over us transfer window after transfer window. What if the only way he would sign for us was to have that clause? Stupid £7.5m > Missing out on a quality striker. We werent the only ones in for him at the time so the chances are we didnt have a choice but accept if we wanted him. As I said in the other thread, it might even be that Ba wanted the clause set at something like £5m, so we actually did OK to make him that bit less attractive to buyers. That wouldnt be far wrong to suggest Ian tbh. He negotiated a FREE from West Ham on relegation so its not unlikely he wanted similar here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Aye tbh i'm always looking for a "come & get me" from our targets. Indeed that's what happened with Debuchy and others. Big Demba fan, if he leaves he leaves. Hopefully Cisse can stay injury free and find his scoring boots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is f***ing annoying but really it's not that unusual. Especially when we buy them in the smoke and daggers way that we do, targeting permanently unsettled players and players on knock-off deals. They knew what they were getting when they bought Ba, both on and off-field. He turned up at West Ham after going on strike and had a very similar clause that we profited from. It's funny to see how the more rhetoric the club puts out the more turn against him, it's like all our sales recently. They're not daft lads are Dekka and Slim Mike. As long as he keeps playing well and scoring/creating goals I couldn't give a s*** tbh, modern football is modern football unfortunately. Give me a mercenary producing the goods like Ba or Jose or Nolan over some slack jawed yokel loyal player like Taylor or Shola any day of the week. It's also weird how many people who are disgusted with Ba lap it up when a player throws some comments our way. You can't have it both ways. A lot of cloak & mirrors conjecture in your claims here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Hope we do a citeh /barton with him when he leaves. Well you may have a £7.5m release clause, and you may be entitled to half of it, but unless we receive £7.5m in full you are going nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Hope we do a citeh /barton with him when he leaves. Well you may have a £7.5m release clause, and you may be entitled to half of it, but unless we receive £7.5m in full you are going nowhere. Do you understand the legal implications of a contract? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Hope we do a citeh /barton with him when he leaves. Well you may have a £7.5m release clause, and you may be entitled to half of it, but unless we receive £7.5m in full you are going nowhere. Do you understand the legal implications of a contract? Do you understand what a flippant remark is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Hope we do a citeh /barton with him when he leaves. Well you may have a £7.5m release clause, and you may be entitled to half of it, but unless we receive £7.5m in full you are going nowhere. Do you understand the legal implications of a contract? I bet the fee has to be paid in full as part of the contract, no instalments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Hope we do a citeh /barton with him when he leaves. Well you may have a £7.5m release clause, and you may be entitled to half of it, but unless we receive £7.5m in full you are going nowhere. Do you understand the legal implications of a contract? I bet the fee has to be paid in full as part of the contract, no instalments. Aye. A release fee has usually to be deposited in full and with tax taken care of; most selling clubs end up negotiating installments and strategies to lessen the tax/fees burden but if NUFC want to resist the sale the club can go to the letter of the contract and the actual price for the purchasing club could increase to 10m+ easily (even if NUFC only gets 7.5m of it). That's what Spanish clubs do to resist "hostile" release fee activations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 As people have said before, the release clause can't be mega-attractive or someone would have already activated. With us probably asking for all the money at once, plus Ba's fitness history and dodgy/expensive agent(s), I bet it's not that clear cut that someone will be able to do a deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Not sure I'd dismiss are QPR so easily. Attraction of London goes a long way for foreign players, plus bigger wages, a good manager known for attacking football, some big name talents there already and the possibility of another lucrative release clause should they go down. And we're not exactly pissing on them so far this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TherealnorthernTOON Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Saw one raport not long ago. Said the clause was 7.5 to nufc and on top of that 7.5 to Ba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Not sure I'd dismiss are QPR so easily. Attraction of London goes a long way for foreign players, plus bigger wages, a good manager known for attacking football, some big name talents there already and the possibility of another lucrative release clause should they go down. And we're not exactly pissing on them so far this season. Makes the weekend a no-win game for Ba: He either doesn't play well, and he's sulking because he wants to move to QPR or he batters them and is trying to impress his prospective buyers! [/AshleyPress] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 QPR with Harry at the helm is a good shout although he has groomed Defoe for years sure he will test the water with Spurs for him first before looking at Ba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Aye 'Arry will come in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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