Gallowgate Toon Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Sissoko Cabaye Ben Arfa Marveaux Gouffran Cisse I think this works well *on paper*. There's a good balance to that team (offensively and defensively) and they all work hard, but in different ways. For example Marveaux presses high up the pitch very well but isn't good at the more physical aspects. Sissoko's a raw player still, I sympathise with him a lot because he really does lack support but his decision-making can be sketchy. I think he's a pretty decent passer of the ball, he's shown some glimpses of it in open games but he lacks vision when there's less space. I think he'd benefit from having more options around him (ahead especially), he's good at passing and moving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Need a big performance from this gentleman today. Hopefully we can get him on the ball in useful areas of the pitch too, which is my only real concern about whether he'll perform for us. If he's camped in our half for most of the match you know it's going to be ugly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Sissoko Cabaye Ben Arfa Marveaux Gouffran Cisse I think this works well *on paper*. There's a good balance to that team (offensively and defensively) and they all work hard, but in different ways. For example Marveaux presses high up the pitch very well but isn't good at the more physical aspects. Sissoko's a raw player still, I sympathise with him a lot because he really does lack support but his decision-making can be sketchy. I think he's a pretty decent passer of the ball, he's shown some glimpses of it in open games but he lacks vision when there's less space. I think he'd benefit from having more options around him (ahead especially), he's good at passing and moving. I'd love to see that but there's no way Pardew will do it, it's just too attacking for his liking, one or even two of Jonas, Tiote or Perch would have to play in his eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I'd argue we need a big performance from everyone ! But i definitely agree, especially if we are to keep the ball a lot better he will be vital, i know what Pardew said about keeping the ball was utter bullshit but having said that it still will be important in key moments to keep possession and Marveaux is probably our best available player in that regard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I'd argue we need a big performance from everyone ! But i definitely agree, especially if we are to keep the ball a lot better he will be vital, i know what Pardew said about keeping the ball was utter bullshit but having said that it still will be important in key moments to keep possession and Marveaux is probably our best available player in that regard. Those 6 players Gallowgate Toon has put up there are all about movement and keeping the ball surely. You would think that Pardew might have a inkling about it too. Sadly i just don't think he has the foresight and courage to use them in that way. He just can't shake off his defensive mindset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Tbf Gouffran and Ben Arfa are not available but in the main i agree, if we had an actual style of play that front 6 would be great but alas Pardew doesn't seem to be able to coach the team properly for it to work under him Going back to the Dortmund discussion of last night, but if Pardew had similar ideals that front 6 could work very very easily.... so very frustrating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Tbf Gouffran and Ben Arfa are not available but in the main i agree, if we had an actual style of play that front 6 would be great but alas Pardew doesn't seem to be able to coach the team properly for it to work under him Going back to the Dortmund discussion of last night, but if Pardew had similar ideals that front 6 could work very very easily.... so very frustrating I actually think it's in him, but it's taking the risks he just can't bring himself to do. And that is why he's a limited, bang average manager and not a expansive good one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 A real quality footballer but just does not do anywhere near enough in a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Yes he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Good game today. Bench for him on Sunday, then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Yes he does. Don't think he imposes himself anywhere near as much as he should. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 He consistently creates chances and is pretty much the only fit player we have that does that. Of course he does enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Thought he was excellent. Didn't deserve to be taken off for Pardew's favourite 'plan B'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 When he gets the ball, he's really good but doesnt get it nearly enough in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I never understand pardews subs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Thought he was good but I didn't know who else could have come off either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 When he gets the ball, he's really good but doesnt get it nearly enough in the game. True. Created 2-3 great moves/chances though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Was one of our best players IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 When he gets the ball, he's really good but doesnt get it nearly enough in the game. That's because most of our players are in our own half. I think he's the type of player who needs to be in the opposition half more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I don't really see why he was taken off, needs to start on Sunday. He's got so much in his locker but just does not use it enough, i.e his dribbling ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 If he creates around 3 great chances a game then I don't think it's easy to argue with his selection - no matter what he does with the rest of the time. Especially when we don't have HBA available. He does drift out of the game but he also does things that no other player can do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 If he creates around 3 great chances a game then I don't think it's easy to argue with his selection - no matter what he does with the rest of the time. Especially when we don't have HBA available. He does drift out of the game but he also does things that no other player can do. Erm, this isn't the Lauren Robert thread Ian and it's not 2002.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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toontownman Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I don't really see why he was taken off, needs to start on Sunday. He's got so much in his locker but just does not use it enough, i.e his dribbling ability. Coming back from injury..and we need him for the Fulham game. Annoying but made sense to me. Looks magic when he gets the ball. Still a few silly mistakes like not threading Cisse through for our second which would have killed the game. Will look back at that among many other things if we go out next week. Certain goal if he had just passed but he took it on himself against all odds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Tried his hardest tonight defensively too. Not a natural in that sense but improving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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