Sylvain Marveaux - arrested

[DJ_NUFC]

Bang on, JJ7.

 

Mole, I understand we've only sold Perchinho so far, but I was referring to how every single rumour of a player's departure has some fan or another saying "oh aye not good enough anyweh..." As if we have a neverending list of players at our disposal and Barca's squad, money and attraction for better replacements. We need to stop selling, and actually ADD to this team. Otherwise we're actually freaking doomed for the coming season. In that regard, I agree with you.

[DJ_NUFC]

Andrea Purrluv would be seated on the bench in Pards' team anyway, or would be craning his neck as balls were continuously hoofed over him in the center of the park.

[toontownman]

Will be truly gutted if we let Marv go. He absolutely brings something different to the team when he plays, injuries and Pardew have been a road block, that he seemed to be starting to overcome. One of the very few players capable of creating something from nothing and was easily one of our best players post Christmas.

[Unbelievable]

There was little wrong with Marveaux's fitness last year but he doesn't fit the style of the team. The style is dictated by the manager and he doesn't fancy him. I think Pardew probably has a fair appreciation of what Marveaux can do but he's also extremely concious of what he can't. Marveaux isn't Pardew's kind of player, plain and simple. Pointless him taking up wages for the odd sub appearance.

 

I'm just speculating here, because I find it hard to believe Pardew would consistently overlook Marveaux despite the player proving to be invaluable on the pitch when space is tight, but maybe Marveaux' fitness wasn't as good as we think? Throughout his career he's been plagued with injuries, mostly muscular if memory serves, so what's to say the medical staff hasn't indicated to Pardew that he should be used very sparingly to avoid long layoffs due to muscle injury, i.e. not to push him too hard and consider him a luxury player from the bench only? I know it's fashionable to mock Pardew and our medical staff, so this will no doubt be laughed down, but it's possible, isn't it? It ties in with the fact he was a pacy winger early in his career, and now most often deployed centrally if at all, where bursts of pace and the likes are less often required. We've been crying out for somebody with a bit of pace and creativity on the left wing all season, and not once has Pardew tried Marveaux there.

 

Argh, who am I kidding? Pardew is an idiot who can't see what we all can.

[Lotus]

There was little wrong with Marveaux's fitness last year but he doesn't fit the style of the team. The style is dictated by the manager and he doesn't fancy him. I think Pardew probably has a fair appreciation of what Marveaux can do but he's also extremely concious of what he can't. Marveaux isn't Pardew's kind of player, plain and simple. Pointless him taking up wages for the odd sub appearance.

 

I'm just speculating here, because I find it hard to believe Pardew would consistently overlook Marveaux despite the player proving to be invaluable on the pitch when space is tight, but maybe Marveaux' fitness wasn't as good as we think? Throughout his career he's been plagued with injuries, mostly muscular if memory serves, so what's to say the medical staff hasn't indicated to Pardew that he should be used very sparingly to avoid long layoffs due to muscle injury, i.e. not to push him too hard and consider him a luxury player from the bench only? I know it's fashionable to mock Pardew and our medical staff, so this will no doubt be laughed down, but it's possible, isn't it? It ties in with the fact he was a pacy winger early in his career, and now most often deployed centrally if at all, where bursts of pace and the likes are less often required. We've been crying out for somebody with a bit of pace and creativity on the left wing all season, and not once has Pardew tried Marveaux there.

 

Argh, who am I kidding? Pardew is an idiot who can't see what we all can.

 

It's possible. Defo. As for being good in tight spaces. Just don't think that's our game. Our game is quick ball that turns the defence around, not playing it about looking for openings.

And another thing, Pardew gives a very high priority to what a player does without the ball. Where midfield is concerned i think he sees it as more important than what a players can do with it. And given we don't control the ball through the midfield it's a fair worry for him to have.

[The College Dropout]

He tried Marveaux wide a good few times and those brought his worst performances. Everton and Spurs away spring to mind.

[Ronaldo]

Yeah, he's no wide player. So much better through the middle.

[Guest taps01]

Yeah, he's no wide player. So much better through the middle.

 

Yeah I've come round to this...he has to be played in the middle for me. We would bennifit as a team massively if he was given a long stint in there.  Someone who can actually create and I'd also trust him to pop up with his fair share of goals.  Who would you play behind him though?

[Ronaldo]

I'd play Sissoko alongside him and Cabaye deeper.

[Lotus]

I'd play Sissoko alongside him and Cabaye deeper.

 

Christ, how porous would that be...

[Tiresias]

We'd conceed less free kicks in dangerous places from stupid tiote tackles and would hold onto the ball a lot better. May be outmuscled by teams though. Sissoko would have to do some defending.

[Unbelievable]

Yeah, he's no wide player. So much better through the middle.

 

Back at Rennes he was most definitely primarily a wide player. I actually believe we are using him centrally and sparingly to some extent to avoid him getting injured.

[Mole_Toonfan]

I can't remember who said it but i remember someone on here saying when he was at Rennes he was a lot quicker and has lost pace due to all the injuries so had to adapt his game.

 

Might explain why he's had more joy in the middle rather than out wide.

[Ronaldo]

Yeah, he's no wide player. So much better through the middle.

 

Back at Rennes he was most definitely primarily a wide player. I actually believe we are using him centrally and sparingly to some extent to avoid him getting injured.

 

Different league, different country. Apparently Gouffran survived as a winger over there for almost a decade, which says it all.

[Ameritoon]

I didn't think he played wing there at all? Always thought he was strictly a striker until us.

[Mole_Toonfan]

I didn't think he played wing there at all? Always thought he was strictly a striker until us.

 

Nah he was always a left winger in France, from my understanding.

[LRD]

I didn't think he played wing there at all? Always thought he was strictly a striker until us.

 

Played on the wings until a couple of seasons ago.

[Ronaldo]

Played RW didn't he?

[Ameritoon]

[Segun Oluwaniyi]

Yeah, he's no wide player. So much better through the middle.

 

Back at Rennes he was most definitely primarily a wide player. I actually believe we are using him centrally and sparingly to some extent to avoid him getting injured.

 

Different league, different country. Apparently Gouffran survived as a winger over there for almost a decade, which says it all.

Gouffran definitely has the capabilities to survive as wide player in any league. I think he is more suited to it despite his good goal record as a centre forward. Not necessarily in a flat 4-4-2, but I doubt he would be deployed that way.

[LRD]

http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/yoan-gouffran/leistungsdaten/spieler_23825_2012.html

http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/yoan-gouffran/leistungsdaten/spieler_23825_2011.html

 

We are talking Gouffran, not Marveaux?

 

Started on the wing then played mainly as a striker in his last seasons at Bordeaux.

[Ronaldo]

Yeah, he's no wide player. So much better through the middle.

 

Back at Rennes he was most definitely primarily a wide player. I actually believe we are using him centrally and sparingly to some extent to avoid him getting injured.

 

Different league, different country. Apparently Gouffran survived as a winger over there for almost a decade, which says it all.

Gouffran definitely has the capabilities to survive as wide player in any league. I think he is more suited to it despite his good goal record as a centre forward. Not necessarily in a flat 4-4-2, but I doubt he would be deployed that way.

 

He's not creative at all and can't really beat a man.

[Tooj]

Yeah, he's no wide player. So much better through the middle.

 

I think he'd work well on the left but given roam to float inside, quite like the role that David Silva plays. He's a total waste of space playing on the right-wing though.

[Unbelievable]

http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/yoan-gouffran/leistungsdaten/spieler_23825_2012.html

http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/yoan-gouffran/leistungsdaten/spieler_23825_2011.html

 

We are talking Gouffran, not Marveaux?

 

Started on the wing then played mainly as a striker in his last seasons at Bordeaux.

 

If that is meant to underline Gouffran was mainly a winger in France as Ronaldo suggests, then so is Cisse. He has played the odd game out wide, but certainly not consistently. Marveaux on the other hand did. We bought a winger and transformed him into a central midfield player.

[LRD]

http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/yoan-gouffran/leistungsdaten/spieler_23825_2012.html

http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/yoan-gouffran/leistungsdaten/spieler_23825_2011.html

 

We are talking Gouffran, not Marveaux?

 

Started on the wing then played mainly as a striker in his last seasons at Bordeaux.

 

If that is meant to underline Gouffran was mainly a winger in France as Ronaldo suggests, then so is Cisse. He has played the odd game out wide, but certainly not consistently. Marveaux on the other hand did. We bought a winger and transformed him into a central midfield player.

 

Chill out. It was solely a factual reply to this:

 

I didn't think he played wing there at all? Always thought he was strictly a striker until us.