Mole_Toonfan Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Never mind Monday, he won't play many more games if he performs like he did tonight. Are we still criticising individuals then? Let's be fair, there's something deep-rooted and intrisically wrong with our preparation, tactics and general attitude to matches that has left even our best players looking poor this season. I don't even feel like picking on players when collectively there is so much wrong with the team. Look how much better people like Marveaux and Anita were on Monday when we played even marginally more like a football team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 A negative, his performance. A positive, another 90 minutes of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 i dont think we can have ago at the players too much versus Bordeaux, they didn't have a set mentality going in this unimportant game from the manager. Was going to come on here after the Wigan game to say people needed to calm down about Marveaux but didn't want to tempt fate. He's still got a long way to go before he can be trusted out on the wings. In middle he can get away with it with some games. He didnt look too clever in the middle tonight, but neither did anyone in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Honestly whether he's inconsistent is irrelevant really.... without Cabaye in the middle we lack any creativity at all and thus he's very important till January and we buy someone or February when Cabaye comes back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 he's not ready for the prem yet, he needs time and space on the ball, wigan gave him that as they went down to 10 men. he needs to two defensive midfielders behind him to do the donkey work so he can express himself like vs Wigan, he is certainly not ready to play on the wings. I do have hopes for him though. Rubbish. The most impressive part of his game on Monday was getting through tight gaps/situations and being able to keep the ball/create something. yeh against 10 men Wigan. Not exactly known for their tough tackling and tanacity. Dunno like, soon as Tiote got the ball in the centre circle he got closed down and clattered early doors. Looked like he'd been targeted to be wound up as it happened a couple of times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I think Marveaux need players about who he can pass the ball to for him to lool effective. Given he had Shola as a point of attack, Sammy and Ranger, none of them making clever runs i wasn't surprised he looked somewhat bereft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Really hope he lines up with Ben Arfa on Monday, it'd really send out the right messages. Positivity. Let a team worry about us for a change instead of us always being scared of other teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 The only thing he's going to be consistent with here is consistently being on the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 To be honest its very hard for any midfield player to shine when we are playing it long for 90 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest loven Mag 11 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Come and help Hatem tear these a new one please, Ta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest loven Mag 11 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Dear Marv, kill Jonas and Pardew and your a first team player every week, jobs a good'un. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Done enough to warrant a start in the team but will not get it because of Jonas. I love the guy but he's useless in the team now, no legs and no confidence whereas Marv looks fit and sharp. Shocking how late he was put on today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Have to start this guy, hes one of few who offers an actual attacking threat for us from midfield. He was one of our standout players in our last win, shouldnt be near the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Looks so natural on the ball. He needs to start like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Have to start this guy, hes one of few who offers an actual attacking threat for us from midfield. He was one of our standout players in our last win, shouldnt be near the bench. Agree, but he is on the bench because he is a pedestrian at the best of times. Was the same at points in the Bordeaux game we were attacking down the left wing, approaching the box and he was walking from the halfway line when he should have been busting a gut to get into the box. He was even worse today, not tracking back and watching the Man City players run past him to out number our defenders. Granted he looks like a deeper set playmaker when playing in the middle but he has to work a lot harder for the team imo. If he did he would be as valuable as Ben Arfa. He clearly has the talent, calm on the ball and eye for a killer pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Did well but i didn't like his non effort at getting back when he lost the ball right near the end. Simpson gets stick for it and so should Marv. I like Marv a lot by the way and think he should play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Have to start this guy, hes one of few who offers an actual attacking threat for us from midfield. He was one of our standout players in our last win, shouldnt be near the bench. Agree, but he is on the bench because he is a pedestrian at the best of times. Was the same at points in the Bordeaux game we were attacking down the left wing, approaching the box and he was walking from the halfway line when he should have been busting a gut to get into the box. He was even worse today, not tracking back and watching the Man City players run past him to out number our defenders. Granted he looks like a deeper set playmaker when playing in the middle but he has to work a lot harder for the team imo. If he did he would be as valuable as Ben Arfa. He clearly has the talent, calm on the ball and eye for a killer pass. We need players who are capable up front and Marveaux is more than capable. We started with 4 defensive midfielders at home today and that is a disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I'm not counting Anita as DM anymore, he far more than that from what i've seen in the last few games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I'm not counting Anita as DM anymore, he far more than that from what i've seen in the last few games. Tiote needs to be anchoring a midfield of Anita, Marveaux and Ben Arfa right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I'm not counting Anita as DM anymore, he far more than that from what i've seen in the last few games. Tiote needs to be anchoring a midfield of Anita, Marveaux and Ben Arfa right now. Absolutely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Have to start this guy, hes one of few who offers an actual attacking threat for us from midfield. He was one of our standout players in our last win, shouldnt be near the bench. Agree, but he is on the bench because he is a pedestrian at the best of times. Was the same at points in the Bordeaux game we were attacking down the left wing, approaching the box and he was walking from the halfway line when he should have been busting a gut to get into the box. He was even worse today, not tracking back and watching the Man City players run past him to out number our defenders. Granted he looks like a deeper set playmaker when playing in the middle but he has to work a lot harder for the team imo. If he did he would be as valuable as Ben Arfa. He clearly has the talent, calm on the ball and eye for a killer pass. We need players who are capable up front and Marveaux is more than capable. We started with 4 defensive midfielders at home today and that is a disgrace. Yet we looked the most dangerous we have looked all season. Up until today I would have agreed. We are clearly capable when organized and motivated. Jonas needs replacing certainly but until Marveaux changes his game to involve helping out without the ball then he isn't the answer. I would still be tempted to give it a go mind. Guti is done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Looks so natural on the ball. He needs to start like. Looks like he can and wants to play football. Best keep him on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Yet we looked the most dangerous we have looked all season. Up until today I would have agreed. We are clearly capable when organized and motivated. Jonas needs replacing certainly but until Marveaux changes his game to involve helping out without the ball then he isn't the answer. I would still be tempted to give it a go mind. Guti is done. It was Anita plus others today and he couldn't do everything on his own when trying to drive forward. I just think we missed somebody who could do something different and provide a spark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I dont think it matters if he comes on and plays like Messi or Pele. Jonas starts however shit he is/has/was/will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Did well but i didn't like his non effort at getting back when he lost the ball right near the end. Simpson gets stick for it and so should Marv. I like Marv a lot by the way and think he should play. I wasn't impressed by that. If you lose it at least make an attempt to get it back. Maybe that's what's stopping him get a starting position in the team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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