Disco Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Must have a clause in his contract preventing any future involvement. How many appearances has he made? 51 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Byker Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 He had a silky eye and a good leg on him. Farewell, old chum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Nobody will ever convince me that he's not better than some of the players who have had game time since he last did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Technically he is amongst the best at the club. His close control and use of the ball is first class. He would have featured much more under a more attack minded manager. On a much smaller degree marveaux and Ben Arfa are in the same position Robert was under Souness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Technically he is amongst the best at the club. His close control and use of the ball is first class. He would have featured much more under a more attack minded manager. On a much smaller degree marveaux and Ben Arfa are in the same position Robert was under Souness. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I've asked Caulkin about him, he's gonna try and get some quotes from Pardew this week, it fucking baffles me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Too nice a player, the fact he doesn't run and tackle like Julian Dicks means Pardew doesn't want to know. Not much point in giving Pardew any players with a bit of flair, they'll only be on the bench. Flair players are no good for containment now are they. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Northern Echo Sport @TNEchoSport 56s [sPORT] Marveaux challenged to produce a training-ground improvement: ALAN PARDEW insists he has not closed th... http://bit.ly/L8pUy3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 It's not about training ground improvement. It's about Pardew preferring defensively minded players. Same reason Ben Arfa isn't playing. Marveaux's useful in the nr. 10 role, we could do with him in home games. I think someone like Martinez would get the best out of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 He mentions Sammy deserving just as much chance as Marv does, and i agree. However there's simply no need for Obertan to be getting on ahead of both. Against Man City, i thought the first two subs should have been Ben Arfa/Gouffran Cabaye/Marv...would have still been able to keep hold of our formation but we could have added a couple more creative match winners to the side to unlock City. A midfielder for a striker wasn't negative but it seemed more of a desperate change for a goal than a clever one. Marv is on a decent wage here and with his injury record and lack of first team opportunities, i think it's clear he won't be around much longer and it's a bit of a shame as i really believe he's more than good enough to have impact in our current squad if used correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Theres a slightly increased chance of him coming on in the 80th with loads of pressure when the containment plan goes tits topside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 He mentions Sammy deserving just as much chance as Marv does, and i agree. However there's simply no need for Obertan to be getting on ahead of both. Against Man City, i thought the first two subs should have been Ben Arfa/Gouffran Cabaye/Marv...would have still been able to keep hold of our formation but we could have added a couple more creative match winners to the side to unlock City. A midfielder for a striker wasn't negative but it seemed more of a desperate change for a goal than a clever one. Marv is on a decent wage here and with his injury record and lack of first team opportunities, i think it's clear he won't be around much longer and it's a bit of a shame as i really believe he's more than good enough to have impact in our current squad if used correctly. Agree entirely regarding the subs, that's my biggest beef with Pardew, he doesn't seem to have the intelligence to turn a game around during the 90. He seems to rely entirely on his week long preparation and if that goes down the pan, he's fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 He mentions Sammy deserving just as much chance as Marv does, and i agree. However there's simply no need for Obertan to be getting on ahead of both. Against Man City, i thought the first two subs should have been Ben Arfa/Gouffran Cabaye/Marv...would have still been able to keep hold of our formation but we could have added a couple more creative match winners to the side to unlock City. A midfielder for a striker wasn't negative but it seemed more of a desperate change for a goal than a clever one. Marv is on a decent wage here and with his injury record and lack of first team opportunities, i think it's clear he won't be around much longer and it's a bit of a shame as i really believe he's more than good enough to have impact in our current squad if used correctly. Agree entirely regarding the subs, that's my biggest beef with Pardew, he doesn't seem to have the intelligence to turn a game around during the 90. He seems to rely entirely on his week long preparation and if that goes down the pan, he's fucked. Seems to, seems fucking to.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 alright he's a cunt, you know that and I know that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Marveaux is so ridiculously over-rated on here. He's got flattering to deceive down to a fine art. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 alright he's a cunt, you know that and I know that. That's better, it's calm in the force now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Marveaux is so ridiculously over-rated on here. He's got flattering to deceive down to a fine art. I duno I think people see him for what he is, a player that keeps things simple and can unlock the door, but who disappears way too often Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Marveaux is so ridiculously over-rated on here. He's got flattering to deceive down to a fine art. I duno I think people see him for what he is, a player that keeps things simple and can unlock the door, but who disappears way too often Apparently disappears way too often in training too... It's disappointing that we don't see more of him, but equally there has to be some onus on the player himself to give the manager less choice in the matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Marveaux is so ridiculously over-rated on here. He's got flattering to deceive down to a fine art. Played 10 last season, in a horrible period, got 1 goal and 4 assists. s****, like. He played 22 last season matey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Marveaux is so ridiculously over-rated on here. He's got flattering to deceive down to a fine art. Played 10 last season, in a horrible period, got 1 goal and 4 assists. s****, like. He played 22 last season matey Think he means in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 So do I Santoon has conveniently removed 12 substitute appearances from the equation though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Stats are stats I suppose - and obviously Marveaux is a talented player but his application, effort and spirit are some of the worst i've seen from a Newcastle player. I've expanded on that a while back in this thread. Either way the truth will probably be somewhere in the middle but he has to get past the first level of looking like a coked up Vinnie Jones in training or whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Marveaux is so ridiculously over-rated on here. He's got flattering to deceive down to a fine art. I duno I think people see him for what he is, a player that keeps things simple and can unlock the door, but who disappears way too often Apparently disappears way too often in training too... It's disappointing that we don't see more of him, but equally there has to be some onus on the player himself to give the manager less choice in the matter. How hard do you have to train to sit on the bench? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Marveaux is so ridiculously over-rated on here. He's got flattering to deceive down to a fine art. I duno I think people see him for what he is, a player that keeps things simple and can unlock the door, but who disappears way too often Apparently disappears way too often in training too... It's disappointing that we don't see more of him, but equally there has to be some onus on the player himself to give the manager less choice in the matter. How hard do you have to train to sit on the bench? Harder than the other players who are in contention Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Marveaux is so ridiculously over-rated on here. He's got flattering to deceive down to a fine art. I duno I think people see him for what he is, a player that keeps things simple and can unlock the door, but who disappears way too often Apparently disappears way too often in training too... It's disappointing that we don't see more of him, but equally there has to be some onus on the player himself to give the manager less choice in the matter. How hard do you have to train to sit on the bench? About as hard as he has been doing apparently. Maybe he can stop being so irrepressibly 'but i am le tired' and one day force his way back onto the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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