Gabriel Obertan signs for Anzhi

[Jack Flash]

It's up to the manager to play inform players no matter who they are whilst dropping more favoured ones when they are off the boil. It's something Pardew has never really got right unless it's a striker, but the results are easier to see when a striker is on form as you get goals.

 

Obertan does deserve a run out, it's a good sign to the rest of the squad that places can be hah should you take your chance when you get it. Problem will be when he doesn't play well and Pardew plays him no matter what (see goof)

 

 

 

You're giving him too much credit I think. He's only playing because there's nobody else, due to Cabella being the latest scapegoat. Obertan and Ameobi are all that's left in the "fret" department and 1 is injured.

 

Cabella has been nothing short of awful, sammy has looked good and for me another player who deserves to win a spot. Obertan's form won't last long if at all, it never does, take the opportunity to milk it and show the players everyone has a chance to play...then its back on the bench/reserves when the pressure gets too much to him.

 

Cabella just hasn't clicked yet, no point playing him till he's up to speed and making a difference as all we are doing right now is ruining his confidence. Price tag doesn't matter. playing him every game just because he was bought as a 1st team player isn't going to help when he's struggling to make an impact (for whatever reason)

 

 

 

 

He has undoubtedly been shit, but playing him for only 1 minute in the last 2 games won't help him. He should have been right back in after Swansea to try and help Cisse keep his goals coming (at home vs Leicester) imo because if you don't play him yesterday you don't play him at all. If he starts against Tottenham he'll not see the ball and will end up back on the bench.

[triggs]

It's up to the manager to play inform players no matter who they are whilst dropping more favoured ones when they are off the boil. It's something Pardew has never really got right unless it's a striker, but the results are easier to see when a striker is on form as you get goals.

 

Obertan does deserve a run out, it's a good sign to the rest of the squad that places can be hah should you take your chance when you get it. Problem will be when he doesn't play well and Pardew plays him no matter what (see goof)

 

 

 

You're giving him too much credit I think. He's only playing because there's nobody else, due to Cabella being the latest scapegoat. Obertan and Ameobi are all that's left in the "fret" department and 1 is injured.

The reason Cabella has been dropped is because he's played fucking horribly in most games he's played not because he's been made a scapegoat

 

[Jack Flash]

It's up to the manager to play inform players no matter who they are whilst dropping more favoured ones when they are off the boil. It's something Pardew has never really got right unless it's a striker, but the results are easier to see when a striker is on form as you get goals.

 

Obertan does deserve a run out, it's a good sign to the rest of the squad that places can be hah should you take your chance when you get it. Problem will be when he doesn't play well and Pardew plays him no matter what (see goof)

 

 

 

You're giving him too much credit I think. He's only playing because there's nobody else, due to Cabella being the latest scapegoat. Obertan and Ameobi are all that's left in the "fret" department and 1 is injured.

The reason Cabella has been dropped is because he's played fucking horribly in most games he's played not because he's been made a scapegoat

 

 

Who hasn't played horribly in most games?

[triggs]

It's up to the manager to play inform players no matter who they are whilst dropping more favoured ones when they are off the boil. It's something Pardew has never really got right unless it's a striker, but the results are easier to see when a striker is on form as you get goals.

 

Obertan does deserve a run out, it's a good sign to the rest of the squad that places can be hah should you take your chance when you get it. Problem will be when he doesn't play well and Pardew plays him no matter what (see goof)

 

 

 

You're giving him too much credit I think. He's only playing because there's nobody else, due to Cabella being the latest scapegoat. Obertan and Ameobi are all that's left in the "fret" department and 1 is injured.

The reason Cabella has been dropped is because he's played fucking horribly in most games he's played not because he's been made a scapegoat

 

 

Who hasn't played horribly in most games?

Obertan, Tiote, Cisse, Janmaat, Aarons, Perez anyway. Look I hate Pardew as much as anyone but on form Obertan had to start ahead of Cabella. Obviously Gouffran shouldn't be starting but I think if we had Cristiano Ronaldo available Gouffran would still start ahead of him on the left wing

[mrmojorisin75]

pardew just got lucky as he's want to do from time to time, had obertan not scored that out of very little on his own and we'd not won he'd have been rightly vilified by everyone for the decision to place his entire strategy on a man who is a proven failure at PL level and was told to find another club in summer

 

it's just a ticking clock, when we lose the next 3 on the bounce he'll be hanging obertan out to dry as well

[mrmojorisin75]

anyone who thinks cabellas non-performances are entirely down to cabella need fucking help, and probably need to take up another sport to watch tbh

[Dave]

Tidy goal.

[The College Dropout]

anyone who thinks cabellas non-performances are entirely down to cabella need f***ing help, and probably need to take up another sport to watch tbh

And it's not entirely down to Pardew. As the man is desperate for a result - he's going to pull him out.

[Guest firetotheworks]

Credit where credit's due, none from me, you're still an absolute coward of a player and would be nowhere near this squad if we had a decent manager.

[Minhosa]

Credit where credit's due, none from me, you're still an absolute coward of a player and would be nowhere near this squad if we had a decent manager.

 

Yup.

[triggs]

It's up to the manager to play inform players no matter who they are whilst dropping more favoured ones when they are off the boil. It's something Pardew has never really got right unless it's a striker, but the results are easier to see when a striker is on form as you get goals.

 

Obertan does deserve a run out, it's a good sign to the rest of the squad that places can be hah should you take your chance when you get it. Problem will be when he doesn't play well and Pardew plays him no matter what (see goof)

 

 

 

You're giving him too much credit I think. He's only playing because there's nobody else, due to Cabella being the latest scapegoat. Obertan and Ameobi are all that's left in the "fret" department and 1 is injured.

The reason Cabella has been dropped is because he's played fucking horribly in most games he's played not because he's been made a scapegoat

 

 

Who hasn't played horribly in most games?

Obertan, Tiote, Cisse, Janmaat, Aarons, Perez anyway. Look I hate Pardew as much as anyone but on form Obertan had to start ahead of Cabella. Obviously Gouffran shouldn't be starting but I think if we had Cristiano Ronaldo available Gouffran would still start ahead of him on the left wing

 

How is Cabella supposed to get used to the league then?

Well if you're Pardew and you haven't won a game in the league are you going to start a guy who needs to get used to the league who probably won't play well or somebody who is in decent form

[TRon]

pardew just got lucky as he's want to do from time to time, had obertan not scored that out of very little on his own and we'd not won he'd have been rightly vilified by everyone for the decision to place his entire strategy on a man who is a proven failure at PL level and was told to find another club in summer

 

it's just a ticking clock, when we lose the next 3 on the bounce he'll be hanging obertan out to dry as well

 

This pretty much. He did okay and took his goal well, but there are two major issues for me with him as a wide player. Despite that goal yesterday his shooting is generally feeble so he's not going to provide many goals. Secondly, he doesn't seem to be able to lift the ball when he's crossing into the penalty box. While the ball being rolled back across the area is not a bad option, a wide player should be able to put in a few decent crosses that the striker can have a go at heading in as well. His best attribute seems to be bringing the ball out and running with it like for the first chance that Coloccini missed.

[Guest firetotheworks]

You're talking about Alan Pardew ffs.

 

Rational logic would tell you that everything would be different anyway without having to resort to the 'decent form' of Gabriel fucking Obertan.

[DJ_NUFC]

It's up to the manager to play inform players no matter who they are whilst dropping more favoured ones when they are off the boil. It's something Pardew has never really got right unless it's a striker, but the results are easier to see when a striker is on form as you get goals.

 

Obertan does deserve a run out, it's a good sign to the rest of the squad that places can be hah should you take your chance when you get it. Problem will be when he doesn't play well and Pardew plays him no matter what (see goof)

 

 

 

You're giving him too much credit I think. He's only playing because there's nobody else, due to Cabella being the latest scapegoat. Obertan and Ameobi are all that's left in the "fret" department and 1 is injured.

The reason Cabella has been dropped is because he's played fucking horribly in most games he's played not because he's been made a scapegoat

 

 

Who hasn't played horribly in most games?

Obertan, Tiote, Cisse, Janmaat, Aarons, Perez anyway. Look I hate Pardew as much as anyone but on form Obertan had to start ahead of Cabella. Obviously Gouffran shouldn't be starting but I think if we had Cristiano Ronaldo available Gouffran would still start ahead of him on the left wing

 

How is Cabella supposed to get used to the league then?

Well if you're Pardew and you haven't won a game in the league are you going to start a guy who needs to get used to the league who probably won't play well or somebody who is in decent form

 

Or kept the players who were used to the fucking league and could have us pushing the top ten places. Oh right, loan those lazy cunts out as they don't put in a 'tacko.'

[Tachikoma]

Why is it Obertan's fault that Cabella isn't getting game time?

[HawK]

Why is it Obertan's fault that Cabella isn't getting game time?

 

Wow :/

[Guest]

Obertan should be ahead of Gouffran at the minute with Cabella in the side also imo. I'd be going with something like Tiote, Anita & Sissoko with those two playing around Cisse on current form.

[themanupstairs]

Obertan should be ahead of Gouffran at the minute with Cabella in the side also imo. I'd be going with something like Tiote, Anita & Sissoko with those two playing around Cisse on current form.

 

This. It's not rocket science. It just continues to re-affirm that Pardew is a cowardly impostor who will play his favorites no matter what, putting his ego ahead of what's best for the team.

[mrmojorisin75]

cabella's learning how to impress the boss mind, he put in that good tackle in the short time he was on the pitch the other day

[Guest firetotheworks]

Why is it Obertan's fault that Cabella isn't getting game time?

 

It isn't. It's Pardew's fault, but then it's Obertan's fault that he's a shit coward. The two things are intrinsically linked.

[Consortium of one]

Like a new signing.

[steve_69]

It was clear that his pace caused problems for Leicester throughout the game, especially on the break. Pace is something we've been sorely missing for a long time. Unfortunately 9 times out of 10 he did something daft like leave the ball behind, mis-control it or not release it quickly enough.  Having said that, I'd be happy enough for him to stay in the first team if he keeps causing the opposition problems but I reckon he'll retreat back into his shell again once we play someone decent.

 

Of course the ideal scenario would be for Pardew to get the boot and us to recruit a manager who can get our team of international players to play a decent brand of football so we don't need to have the likes of Obertan anywhere near the first team. Pipe dream.....

[mrmojorisin75]

It was clear that his pace caused problems for Leicester throughout the game, especially on the break. Pace is something we've been sorely missing for a long time. Unfortunately 9 times out of 10 he did something daft like leave the ball behind, mis-control it or not release it quickly enough.  Having said that, I'd be happy enough for him to stay in the first team if he keeps causing the opposition problems but I reckon he'll retreat back into his shell again once we play someone decent.

 

Of course the ideal scenario would be for Pardew to get the boot and us to recruit a manager who can get our team of international players to play a decent brand of football so we don't need to have the likes of Obertan anywhere near the first team. Pipe dream.....

 

exactly, he's one of the shittest players in the league at using his pace so the way he uses it is only ever likely to work against the shittest teams in the division and why he's never scored against anyone good for us and probably never will

[Guest n4e]

Alan Pardew has warned Premier League defences that Gabriel Obertan can be “unplayable” this season - if he retains his current levels of confidence.

 

The Toon manager revealed that he has been privately working on the former Bordeaux and Man United winger’s morale.

 

And he feels that after seeing him grab the winner against Leicester City he can prove to be a thorn in the side of Tottenham Hotspur on Sunday (1.30pm kick off).

 

Pardew is delighted to see him bounce back but admitted that he was up for sale last season.

 

He said: “Let’s just say that events last year when we weren’t winning and he wasn’t in the team were such that we might have listened to offers for him.

 

“But when he came back in pre-season and we’d assembled a new squad, I knew he could be part of it – I told him that. From the moment we set foot into pre-season I have been trying to build his confidence.”

 

Pardew felt that Obertan was a key man in the season when the Magpies finished fifth.

 

He saw him as the outlet on the wing who could take some of the pressure away from his side.

 

Pardew reflected: “This is a player that played a big part in the season when we finished fifth.

 

“He’s not been the same since that year because he’s had injuries and he’s in and out. He’s a confidence player.

 

“When he has confidence he can be unplayable at times. He’s created the moments for us at times.”

[Pilko]

He was shit even in that unbeaten run at the start of 2011/12, I can remember everyone dying to see Marveaux given a game because Obertan had been so poor.