Colocho Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Strange one this, especially when you compare Maiga's injury record to Marveaux's. Ashley is a gambler, and perhaps he considers a 'free' transfer with a highly-incentivised contract to be less of a risk than a £6m player with a supposed injury problems? Saying that Maiga isn't a player known for difficulties with injuries, and has started more league games in the last two years or so than Marveaux has in his entire career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Was surprised we were still pursuing this one tbh. He seemed a bit similar to what we have already. I think what we need is pacy guy who makes clever runs. Kind of like Sturridge at Bolton (although undoubtedly excellent for Chelsea he seems to play wider there than at Bolton). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Ashley is a gambler, and perhaps he considers a 'free' transfer with a highly-incentivised contract to be less of a risk than a £6m player with a supposed injury problems? Think you've just answered your own question, free transfer on 30-40k/week is always going to be less of a risk than £6m initial fee plus 30-40k/week Although you saying Ashley is a gambler means he would surely of gone for Maiga & not Ba/Marv, he's not a gambler with any of businesses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Ashley is a gambler, and perhaps he considers a 'free' transfer with a highly-incentivised contract to be less of a risk than a £6m player with a supposed injury problems? Think you've just answered your own question, free transfer on 30-40k/week is always going to be less of a risk than £6m initial fee plus 30-40k/week Although you saying Ashley is a gambler means he would surely of gone for Maiga & not Ba/Marv, he's not a gambler with any of businesses. He's a gambler, but an astute one. A free transfer (£2m) after fees + £35,000 a week (only £20,000 when not playing) presents less risk than a £6m player on say £30,000 a week... I'm suggesting that Ashley and Del Boy may have seen Marveaux as less of a risk in financial terms - obviously they didn't see that he is a 25 year-old who has started 54 league games in his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 It should never have got out that he'd failed a medical, I hope that we didn't release the information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Well he didn't sign, so people would easily work out the reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Well he didn't sign, so people would easily work out the reason. We could have said that we'd failed to agree wages or something, the club lies when it wants to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 tbf didnt the quotes come from his agent? we've said nowt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 tbf didnt the quotes come from his agent? we've said nowt I hope that's the case, we tried to siign John Salako years ago and he failed a medical, Keegan told him to claim that he had decided that he didn't want to move so far North. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 It should never have got out that he'd failed a medical, I hope that we didn't release the information. Of course the club released the information! His party (or even Sochaux for that matter) wouldn't want him to appear to be damaged goods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Was surprised we were still pursuing this one tbh. He seemed a bit similar to what we have already. I think what we need is pacy guy who makes clever runs. Kind of like Sturridge at Bolton (although undoubtedly excellent for Chelsea he seems to play wider there than at Bolton). Way better then our current lot, except Demba. He's more direct and pacy then Demba though. Would suit us perfectly. So disappointed about how this has turned out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I heard he was as you wanted, Lotus. Often played off the shoulder, very physically orientated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Becoming a parody now Colocho. His agent was the first person to mention a failed medical not us. In fact, I don't even remember the club mention his name at all the past week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 i think maybe the club had a sudden brainstorm and figured, having two of your strikers away for month in the African cup of nation, maybe a bad idea. im actually glad we not signing another african cup of nation player tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 i think maybe the club had a sudden brainstorm and figured, having two of your strikers away for month in the African cup of nation, maybe a bad idea. im actually glad we not signing another african cup of nation player tbh. If you are thinking long term then that tournament shouldn't really be much of a consideration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 the club has never even acknowledged we were in for Maiga never mind leaking info he failed a medical, they say fuck all on transfers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 i think maybe the club had a sudden brainstorm and figured, having two of your strikers away for month in the African cup of nation, maybe a bad idea. im actually glad we not signing another african cup of nation player tbh. If you are thinking long term then that tournament shouldn't really be much of a consideration. yes but the short term is with two of your first team strikers gone for more than a month, thats not going to bode well for the rest of the current season, and what happens this season will affect the next season. in a way abandoning this signing is an actual long term view imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Maïga is not a big loss...seriously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 tbf didnt the quotes come from his agent? we've said nowt I hope that's the case, we tried to siign John Salako years ago and he failed a medical, Keegan told him to claim that he had decided that he didn't want to move so far North. Yep... And we ended up with Ginola... Hoping a similar situation will arise here as I've never wanted Maiga from the beginning... Too similar to what we've got from what I've saw of him... And never a fan of any player striking for a move... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Was surprised we were still pursuing this one tbh. He seemed a bit similar to what we have already. I think what we need is pacy guy who makes clever runs. Kind of like Sturridge at Bolton (although undoubtedly excellent for Chelsea he seems to play wider there than at Bolton). Way better then our current lot, except Demba. He's more direct and pacy then Demba though. Would suit us perfectly. So disappointed about how this has turned out. Fair do's. I haven't seen him play, just the usual Youtube stuff and tbh, didn't overly impress me but if he was as you've described him then it sounds like a loss. Have to say, didn't think going to a player who'd be off on a tournament the same time as Ba would've been good planning though. Maybe that started to belatedly factor into their decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Becoming a parody now Colocho. His agent was the first person to mention a failed medical not us. In fact, I don't even remember the club mention his name at all the past week. Bloody hell, I was being facetious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Yep... And we ended up with Ginola... Assisted by our threat to report PSG after they messed us around for George Weah! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 what about a loan deal? try him out.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 what about a loan deal? try him out.... Ashley isn't particularly keen on loans though. (I know Ben Arfa was signed on loan initially but he was an exceptional talent!). Pretty much safe to say this will never materialise, be it a loan or permanent transfer. Have to pursue other targets now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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