Bish Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 £5.3m I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 the fuck? people are talking about starting Raylor in midfield? the fuck? midfield's the position we're we've got the most depth, he should never be playing there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Don't think anyone wants him there but some think that Pardew will want to keep him in the team at the moment to reward him for his goals before phasing him out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 ridiculous imo, we can't afford to be sentimental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 ridiculous imo, we can't afford to be sentimental. There is a difference between sentimentality and man management... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Must start. Absolutely must. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 ridiculous imo, we can't afford to be sentimental. There is a difference between sentimentality and man management... such insight. raylor's had a decent start, he's scored two free kicks but other than that been ok at the job he's there to do primarily. if you want to reward him leave him in the position he's had a decent start in, or put him at right back where simpson's been poor. don't weaken our midfield needlessly just to keep his spirits up, it's counter-productive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Don't think anyone wants him there but some think that Pardew will want to keep him in the team at the moment to reward him for his goals before phasing him out. Exactly. Raylor is not going to be a mainstay in the side but he does deserve a place at the moment. It will certainly be interesting to see if AP has the balls to make a big decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Don't think anyone wants him there but some think that Pardew will want to keep him in the team at the moment to reward him for his goals before phasing him out. Exactly. Raylor is not going to be a mainstay in the side but he does deserve a place at the moment. It will certainly be interesting to see if AP has the balls to make a big decision. He does, but playing him in midfield would be criminal. Santon also has to play meaning he should only get a place in the side at RB which I'd be happy to see happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 ridiculous imo, we can't afford to be sentimental. There is a difference between sentimentality and man management... such insight. raylor's had a decent start, he's scored two free kicks but other than that been ok at the job he's there to do primarily. if you want to reward him leave him in the position he's had a decent start in, or put him at right back where simpson's been poor. don't weaken our midfield needlessly just to keep his spirits up, it's counter-productive. Raylor has been used at right midfield before, Pardew might well see him as a possible replacement for Barton. Might be worth a shot as he wouldn't be playing too far forward in a 3 man midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 ridiculous imo, we can't afford to be sentimental. There is a difference between sentimentality and man management... such insight. raylor's had a decent start, he's scored two free kicks but other than that been ok at the job he's there to do primarily. if you want to reward him leave him in the position he's had a decent start in, or put him at right back where simpson's been poor. don't weaken our midfield needlessly just to keep his spirits up, it's counter-productive. I guess that is where Pardew earns his coin, by using the information he gets on a daily basis at training and using that as best he can to get the 3points. In terms of mobility and physical presence I don't see a massive difference between Barton and Taylor, Taylor is probably the closest thing we have to a direct 'replacement' for Barton on the right wing. Won't take people on, has a decent cross on him, will pick up dodgy bookings and likes to take a set piece. Oh and he's scouse as well, so you'll never know when he'll randomly get sent off. Would be a pretty awful partnership with Simpson though. Didn't we have Raylor RB, Simpson RW at one point (or was it saylor?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Don't think anyone wants him there but some think that Pardew will want to keep him in the team at the moment to reward him for his goals before phasing him out. Makes sense actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Don't think anyone wants him there but some think that Pardew will want to keep him in the team at the moment to reward him for his goals before phasing him out. Exactly. Raylor is not going to be a mainstay in the side but he does deserve a place at the moment. It will certainly be interesting to see if AP has the balls to make a big decision. He does, but playing him in midfield would be criminal. Santon also has to play meaning he should only get a place in the side at RB which I'd be happy to see happen. Im of the same opinion mate. I just dont think AP will drop Simpson. I hope he does. It would give him the kick up the arse that he needs. Simpson is marginally better than Raylor @ RB but Raylor deserves his spot more than Simpson. Best possible decision in my opinion is to drop DS, put RT at RB, give Santon his debut @ LB. This really is an opportunity for both of them to really make RB theirs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 ridiculous imo, we can't afford to be sentimental. Exactly - it's £45 a ticket, not taking into account any of the other costs - we shouldn't have to turn up and see Santon, who has been signed to be first choice left back, on the bench just because Raylor has put a couple of freekicks on target. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Has anyone said that? If R.Taylor is to play at all I reckon it'll be in place of Loven with Obertan or Ba with Best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 That shouldn't happen either, he simply shouldn't be in the first 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Saw nowt of him in the press confrence clips on nutv. Has Santon even been training with us yet? If not, or at least not much, I'd be amazed if he made the starting 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Saw nowt of him in the press confrence clips on nutv. Has Santon even been training with us yet? If not, or at least not much, I'd be amazed if he made the starting 11. He has been away with Italy U21, so guess he was back in Newcastle yesterday or today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Has anyone said that? If R.Taylor is to play at all I reckon it'll be in place of Loven with Obertan or Ba with Best. Would be silly as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 He's been away with the Italy U21's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertCommunicator Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Krul Raylor Saylor Colo Santon Is the painfully obvious answer. Nailed on that Pardew will play: Elliott Perch Loven Ranger Smith Or something equally as shite not involving Santon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 If he doesn't start on Monday then it's a bad move on Pardew's part, but I reckon he'll definitely start against Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I'd be very worried if he didn't like, Sifu! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Maybe it's a case of easing him into the side (like Ben Arfa last year)? Not that I agree with that, he should definitely start on Monday - we signed him as a left back so it's only logical that he starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 None of you lads have seen him training. Could be miles behind his team-mates for all we know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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