TRon Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I've said most of the season though that I don't rate him. Lazy cross field passes that almost get cut out, poor positioning and fuck all in the final third. I guess today may have amplified all I these problems in my mind but he does my tits in. At least Haidara looks like he can cross a ball. Technically he is awful. Rarely even kicks it well never mind his dubious defensive qualities at times I disagree, he carries the ball quite well and is comfortable on the ball. But he does nothing with it at the end of the day except cut inside and pass it sideways. So ultimately he's not much use at either end of the pitch, but he's ok in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I've said most of the season though that I don't rate him. Lazy cross field passes that almost get cut out, poor positioning and fuck all in the final third. I guess today may have amplified all I these problems in my mind but he does my tits in. At least Haidara looks like he can cross a ball. Technically he is awful. Rarely even kicks it well never mind his dubious defensive qualities at times I disagree, he carries the ball quite well and is comfortable on the ball. But he does nothing with it at the end of the day except cut inside and pass it sideways. So ultimately he's not much use at either end of the pitch, but he's ok in the middle. So the actual point in where he requires some form of technique(or technical ability if you will) he suffers? Yeah thats not disagreeing like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Just seen that 2nd goal where he made a half-hearted challenge to block Johnson's tap in - if it was up to me I'd drop him from the first 11 just for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Krul should have dropped the soft little cunt. Agreed. Second goal was entirely preventable if Santon had just used his fucking left foot instead of trying to put it on his right. Was even more preventable if Steven Taylor had done his job properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 well pardew can drop him now - and taylor and shola. nowt to play for and we're unlikely to get relegated so grow some balls and try something different. I'd even a reserve team striker than shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I said earlier in this thread that his issue is a lack of urgency- both in attack and defence. I'm not convinced he'll ever be suited to English football because of that. Haidara on the other hand, while a lesser player, is far more dynamic and better suited. As we're playing for f*** all now, I'd give Haidara the rest of the season and move santon on in the summer. He plays like a lazy winger. I've said before I hate his 'passive' style. He's the type if man to cruise through life without great effort or determination. I said against City he was the only one that didn't rise or seem heated after the disallowed goal. 'Tempo' or urgency - he has none. I've never seen him out in a tough tackle. I missed the game but I know what to expect of a Santon performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Those flat chipped crosses are embarrassing. He's not the only one who attempts them mind, they're a long standing theme of our game. That was the worst aspect of our game today. Dummett got beyond his man twice today and fizzed it across the area, one won a corner and the other a scramble which could have gone anywhere. That's what I would prefer to see more often than not; the fucking chipped back stick crosses should be summat like one in every eight or nine to mix it up a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Krul should have dropped the soft little cunt. Agreed. Second goal was entirely preventable if Santon had just used his fucking left foot instead of trying to put it on his right. Was even more preventable if Steven Taylor had done his job properly. Definitely. Was like watching Danny Simpson mk2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Piss poor for the second. Unforgivable really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 His defending often looks tentative to me, and the second goal was another example of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Debuchy was as bad today IMO I love debuchy, but he got skinned by Borini over and over. Fucking Borini. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Pure drivel. Might as well not have a def there. Never looked around to see who was behind him...Just jogging back as he usually does. I've never actually ever seen him run back at full pace. Loves himself and now to make things worse hanging around dead ball situations. Barely kick a ball straight. Haidara for me now - all the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Him and Krul squared up? Yeah, Krul was fuming. Never seen him as mad as that before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Him and Krul squared up? Yeah, Krul was fuming. Never seen him as mad as that before Krul often bawls out his defenders. I wish he'd cut it out, and concentrate more on his own game, which has slipped a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Him and Krul squared up? Yeah, Krul was fuming. Never seen him as mad as that before If Krul and Santon had a fight it would go on for 15hrs...Hairdressers would be on red alert. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Krul would spark him clean out in about 20 seconds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Krul would definitely one bomb him like, no doubt about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Krul would destroy him man. His inability to bust a gut when he's running back to our goal on defense is fucking shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Santon would go to hit him with his left fist but then decide to tamely slap him with his right hand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Personally think he's a very shakey full back who positionally is all over the place quite frequently. I think he can burst forward well but his end product is pretty limited. Dont mind him, but doesnt look as good as we'd hoped he would be, although that could be the Pardew effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 It's clear Gouffran's been making him look much more solid for a while by doing most of his defensive work for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 It's clear Gouffran's been making him look much more solid for a while by doing most of his defensive work for him. Couldn't be more correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 It's clear Gouffran's been making him look much more solid for a while by doing most of his defensive work for him. This - nail on head absolutely. Santon is a poor defender and we would do well to sell him back to Italy if we can find a suitable buyer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Him and Debuchy can't handle the pressure of big games and make silly mistakes, give away fouls etc... Santon's defending has always been mediocre and while some people say he makes up for that going forward he rare whips in a good cross and can't hit the target when he cuts inside. Dunno what he's good at. I said the other day that we really needed Grenier just to take our setpieces cos I don't think I can stand another one from Santon What an absolute load of bollocks. Debuchy was great against Spurs, Chelsea, Man Yoo, Liverpool, Arsenal and the recent narrow loss to Man City. But aye he can't handle the pressure of big games because he's s*** in the derby. Playing a better team in the League isn't as pressurising as a derby or playing a Cup game (especially against a lesser team) I'll let you know. Are we ever favourites to beat those teams you mentioned ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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