ponsaelius Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 All they had to fucking do was sign a striker. They didn't have to be a worldbeater, they didn't have to cost £20 million. Just buy one of the many strikers we've been endlessly linked to and suddenly this transfer window looks competent. Hell, even if they'd done what Sunderland have done and brought in Bendtner with an option to buy. Even that would have been better than nowt. They've made us all look like fucking mugs. 7 months and £35 million to spend and no striker. An absolute disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 We got Ba in, who's a striker, but I get your point and agree with you really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I do think Pardew is for the most part a separate entitity to those two and ultimately they've made him look like a mug too by promising the fans we would have one. Hardly think he's chuffed to have to stick with what he's got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Completely agree, I think the whole Barton fiasco backs that up as well. He was clearly willing to play him if he stayed, and wanted him in the team, whereas Ashley and Llambias wanted rid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Even on reflection after last night I maintain my belief we've done ok, not to say I'm pissed off we've not got Maiga/Roux/Ruiz/Gignac plus Ridgewell and Situ. Still not worthy of the doom and gloom on here that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 It has been a good window frfom the point of view that we have: signed some good players for way below their market value New players are younger and hungry for success New players are more skillful and talented Players who have left were money hungry and limited and expensive We will play a better standard of football The debt owed to the owner is diminishing Money will be avaailable in january if the need arises We are not being held to ransom by greedy players and agents Once new players gell, you will see such a change in our football Kids are being given a chance This made me lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rainforest Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 It has been a good window frfom the point of view that we have: signed some good players for way below their market value New players are younger and hungry for success New players are more skillful and talented Players who have left were money hungry and limited and expensive We will play a better standard of football The debt owed to the owner is diminishing Money will be avaailable in january if the need arises We are not being held to ransom by greedy players and agents Once new players gell, you will see such a change in our football Kids are being given a chance This made me lol. If the need arises? Looking at our squad-sheet right now - it would be akin to observing the starvation disaster at Cape Hope and make a note to self about food rations "if the need arises". Yes, its that bad - tasteless as the comparison is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 All they had to f***ing do was sign a striker. They didn't have to be a worldbeater, they didn't have to cost £20 million. Just buy one of the many strikers we've been endlessly linked to and suddenly this transfer window looks competent. Hell, even if they'd done what Sunderland have done and brought in Bendtner with an option to buy. Even that would have been better than nowt. They've made us all look like f***ing mugs. 7 months and £35 million to spend and no striker. An absolute disgrace. We have already got a number of pretty average strikers and a couple of raw prospects. We needed a proper Number 9 to hang our hat on. It needn't have cost £20m but the type of player we needed to replace Carrol was going to cost a fair bit, maybe up to £15m. We seemed to have a very narrow shortlist of players, mainly based around Ligue 1, what about players plying their trade in other European leagues? South America? Once our supposed preferred options were unavailable we needed to cast the net wider instead of working down the list until we got to Maiga and Roux. In the end Ashley didn't want to spend the money and another opportunity to move forward and break into the top 6-8 goes begging. As for Pardew, if he had any integrity he would resign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I do think Pardew is for the most part a separate entitity to those two and ultimately they've made him look like a mug too by promising the fans we would have one. Hardly think he's chuffed to have to stick with what he's got. "Judge me on September the 1st" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rainforest Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Thing is though, how do we express our disgust? Would not going to the games help? A half-full St-James park with 25.000 empty seats would surely get the message across? I`d feel sorry for the players as they havent done anything wrong, but in a war I guess there will always be casualities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vinkent Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Anyone else also have the feeling that the pull of playing for NUFC no longer has the effect it used to for attracting potentially good talent from abroad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Anyone else also have the feeling that the pull of playing for NUFC no longer has the effect it used to for attracting potentially good talent from abroad? Nope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Anyone else also have the feeling that the pull of playing for NUFC no longer has the effect it used to for attracting potentially good talent from abroad? No, if anything we are attracting more exciting players than in recent years. £5 for Cabaye is better than £15m for Luque, or whatever it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Anyone else also have the feeling that the pull of playing for NUFC no longer has the effect it used to for attracting potentially good talent from abroad? No, if anything we are attracting more exciting players than in recent years. £5 for Cabaye is better than £15m for Luque, or whatever it was. £9.5m, but what's the difference in £5.5m in misrepresenting the dealings of the previous board while defending the current. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Anyone else also have the feeling that the pull of playing for NUFC no longer has the effect it used to for attracting potentially good talent from abroad? No, if anything we are attracting more exciting players than in recent years. £5 for Cabaye is better than £15m for Luque, or whatever it was. £9.5m, but what's the difference in £5.5m in misrepresenting the dealings of the previous board while defending the current. I honestly didn't know the figures, my point was that we're not attracting any worse players from abroad than in recent years really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 1 good striker away from a 10 I scored it a 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Anyone else also have the feeling that the pull of playing for NUFC no longer has the effect it used to for attracting potentially good talent from abroad? No, if anything we are attracting more exciting players than in recent years. £5 for Cabaye is better than £15m for Luque, or whatever it was. £9.5m, but what's the difference in £5.5m in misrepresenting the dealings of the previous board while defending the current. I honestly didn't know the figures, my point was that we're not attracting any worse players from abroad than in recent years really. Aye - I was just having a troll moment anyway (you've probably guessed that). If anything I'd probably say that the current financial limitations have flushed out the shysters, malignerers and hangers on from the squad (not just foreigners) and left us with players who actully want to play football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 What Fat Bastard doesn't understand is that it was bad business NOT to bring another striker in. To fail at building upon the early, low budget transfers actually devalues those transfers. He's failed to maximize the potential of those transfers by not spending some of the Carroll money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Barton & Routledge out Obertan in Enrique out Santon in Nolan out Cabaye in Ba & Marveaux in Piss poor tbh, pretty much what I expected though. Can't wait for the next one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 What Fat Bastard doesn't understand is that it was bad business NOT to bring another striker in. To fail at building upon the early, low budget transfers actually devalues those transfers. He's failed to maximize the potential of those transfers by not spending some of the Carroll money. Nailed it right there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delima Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Why is it fat bastard's fault ? I can't believe that Mike is personally involve in negotiating. Surely he allocates a certain amount of money, and let Llambias and Pardew work it out how to use it. It is evident that we have some money to spend, despite not much. If we can identify good players who are young, with potential, and cheap (seems to be around 5M mark) then we would bring them in. It is Llambias and Pardew and the scouting network's fault for not bringing in a striker. Perhaps Llambias for not being swift enough, scouts for not able to identify suitable target, and Pardew for prioritising midfielders over striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rainforest Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Why is it fat b******'s fault ? I can't believe that Mike is personally involve in negotiating. Surely he allocates a certain amount of money, and let Llambias and Pardew work it out how to use it. It is evident that we have some money to spend, despite not much. If we can identify good players who are young, with potential, and cheap (seems to be around 5M mark) then we would bring them in. It is Llambias and Pardew and the scouting network's fault for not bringing in a striker. Perhaps Llambias for not being swift enough, scouts for not able to identify suitable target, and Pardew for prioritising midfielders over striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocksammy Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Going to need all our players to chip in with goals now, bit of magic from HBA and marveaux and the season can still be great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rainforest Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 is marveaux injured or what is the deal with not being on the bench vs Fukham? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Restart this pool one month later please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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