Belfast Mags Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Would anyone stomach relegation if it meant Ashley sold the club? Would make it less likely to be honest. If Mike was to get out, it would have to be at the top of the market (which makes this latest move even harder to understand) I admire the fact you're clutching at straws here crambling around in the dirt for anyway out. Fair play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannybagoftudor Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I would welcome relegation if it meant all of the rats involved with NUFC left - even more I am not sure that I could really cheer a domestic trophy (I know as if) - the lunatics are making it very difficult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 If he was going to sell, he should have sold on the back of the 5th place finish with a manager on a short-term contract and a young talented squad bought very cheaply; the likes of Tiote, Cisse, Ba, etc were all at the highest of their valuations as well. He probably could have had a case for the amount of money some could cost if they were traded and added that to his sale price. He could have earned his money back on a massive premium in my opinion. It was his absolute best and easiest time to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Would anyone stomach relegation if it meant Ashley sold the club? I would take starting over as a club, United of Newcastle, in the 17th tier of football at this point. At least we'd have our pride back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Has Kinnear actually been seen in public since all this? He claims he's never been fitter. Which admittedly means he's probably in a wheelchair and isn't allowed on Ryanair flights. Or he already died, but the stubborn cunt refuses to accept it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Surely this is MA just trying to drive AP out? And who better for the job....it's the only explanation I can think of the appointment is so ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Surely this is MA just trying to drive AP out? And who better for the job....it's the only explanation I can think of the appointment is so ridiculous. Drive AP out? Do you think he's unable to sack him if he wants to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 no way he gave him an 8 yr contract without a get out, surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Surely this is MA just trying to drive AP out? And who better for the job....it's the only explanation I can think of the appointment is so ridiculous. Drive AP out? Do you think he's unable to sack him if he wants to? Then it's pay-out time. It's either 1 of 3 things. 1) Ashley Believes JFK knows what he's talking about. ha ha ha 2) He's brought him in as the villain to deflect pressure off Pardew. 3) He's brought him in to help with the sickening off process so Pardew quits and gets bugger all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 no way he gave him an 8 yr contract without a get out, surely. There was an article not so long back on this board where it was claimed he was due the full lot if he got sacked. Obviously no one knows but it makes you wonder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Until now I would have thought Pardew's contract would have been stuffed with get out clauses. But using Kinnear to force him out is also mental, so take your pick really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 If it is some crackpot way to unite manager / fans / players then it's unbelievably bold. Really not sure what to believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 bold would be stapling his nutsack to his thigh. This is just daft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 bold would be stapling his nutsack to his thigh. This is just daft. Defiantly considering it's swinging off his forehead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Perhaps the most vindictive and sinister cunt of an owner I've ever heard of. There's incompetence from ownership, and then there's blatant spitefulness and disregard for an entire community. Marlins? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 no way he gave him an 8 yr contract without a get out, surely. There was an article not so long back on this board where it was claimed he was due the full lot if he got sacked. Obviously no one knows but it makes you wonder. If his basic is as low as its rumoured to be then surely it doesn't matter? I heard someone say today maybe he doesn't want to look stupid, but that boat sailed years ago tbh. They had that meeting a few weeks ago, a statement followed not long after which in a rather conspicuous manner left Pardew's name out. It could be that words were said at that meeting and Ashley secretly had enough, and this is the method to get rid of Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Perhaps the most vindictive and sinister cunt of an owner I've ever heard of. There's incompetence from ownership, and then there's blatant spitefulness and disregard for an entire community. Marlins? Perhaps, but nobody cares about the Marlins anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Perhaps the most vindictive and sinister cunt of an owner I've ever heard of. There's incompetence from ownership, and then there's blatant spitefulness and disregard for an entire community. Marlins? Perhaps, but nobody cares about the Marlins anyway. Loria got a free stadium and traded away all the good players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 As a fan of this club, you're trained to take the bad times. I can take that. What I can't take is having an amazing 2011-12, with a fantastic set of players and yet here we are 12 months later staring into oblivion. For no reason at all, just because Ashley feels like it. The bad times are bad, the good times quickly turn into a disaster.....honestly, what's the point? I see other owners who are good people, people that dream, people with good intentions. And to see ours deliberately shit on the fans at every possible opportunity, purely out of spite, tears me apart. I thought 'bad Ashley' was over and I feel betrayed. He hates people, he hates tradition and it looks like he hates making money - which is odd for a billionaire. But he must do, otherwise he wouldn't be doing this. To have the audacity to even think of removing us from Europe is despicable, he possesses an evil that even Hollywood writers couldn't create. The last 3 days have changed me. For years its been a love-hate relationship with the club but now I hate that I ever fell for his tricks. I've changed. There's no light at the end of the tunnel this time. I'm at my most miserable when thinking about this club and at my happiest when I'm far away from it. That's not healthy and, honestly, I don't think I have the energy or desire to suffer through this again. All the good work of the last 3 years has been undone in an instant. Being on Team Pardew is horrific but, incredibly, the alternative has far bleaker consequences. Ashley isn't thinking straight, his intentions are evil and he'll not stop until he's reduced this great club to nothing. Mission accomplished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Perhaps the most vindictive and sinister cunt of an owner I've ever heard of. There's incompetence from ownership, and then there's blatant spitefulness and disregard for an entire community. Marlins? Perhaps, but nobody cares about the Marlins anyway. Loria got a free stadium and traded away all the good players. Ashley's wet dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 As a fan of this club, you're trained to take the bad times. I can take that. What I can't take is having an amazing 2011-12, with a fantastic set of players and yet here we are 12 months later staring into oblivion. For no reason at all, just because Ashley feels like it. The bad times are bad, the good times quickly turn into a disaster.....honestly, what's the point? I see other owners who are good people, people that dream, people with good intentions. And to see ours deliberately shit on the fans at every possible opportunity, purely out of spite, tears me apart. I thought 'bad Ashley' was over and I feel betrayed. He hates people, he hates tradition and it looks like he hates making money - which is odd for a billionaire. But he must do, otherwise he wouldn't be doing this. To have the audacity to even think of removing us from Europe is despicable, he possesses an evil that even Hollywood writers couldn't create. The last 3 days have changed me. For years its been a love-hate relationship with the club but now I hate that I ever fell for his tricks. I've changed. There's no light at the end of the tunnel this time. I'm at my most miserable when thinking about this club and at my happiest when I'm far away from it. That's not healthy and, honestly, I don't think I have the energy or desire to suffer through this again. All the good work of the last 3 years has been undone in an instant. Being on Team Pardew is horrific but, incredibly, the alternative has far bleaker consequences. Ashley isn't thinking straight, his intentions are evil and he'll not stop until he's reduced this great club to nothing. Mission accomplished. Why does this feel like a Giggs Seriously though, it really really doesn't make any sense at all when you look at it logically, but perhaps, there's the answer already. I'd love to see this famed 5 year plan, I've been involved in forward planning though work over the years and at no point did "sure throw in a handgrenade" ever come up It just fucking bazaar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I actually don't think he's done it deliberately to spite the fans. Although he probably holds a grudge and enjoys the uproar, I think his actions are simply those of someone who's clueless about football and someone who doesn't give a shit about the consequences of his decisions from a moral viewpoint. As opposed to a constructed attempt to be 'evil', he's just careless, selfish and ignorant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Which one of you is Mike Ashley? You're a cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I actually don't think he's done it deliberately to spite the fans. Although he probably holds a grudge and enjoys the uproar, I think his actions are simply those of someone who's clueless about football and someone who doesn't give a s*** about the consequences of his decisions from a moral viewpoint. As opposed to a constructed attempt to be 'evil', he's just careless, selfish and ignorant. But Joe Kinnear though? If Ashley is that thick when it comes to football then help us all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 One of his best mates by all accounts. Regardless of the countless delusions Kinnear has, he has worked in football before - and that's more than Derek Llambias. It's eminently feasible that Kinnear has convinced Ashley that he could do something useful at the club. I can understand why people might think he's done it deliberately to spite us, but I just can't imagine he's sat there and gone "right, what can I do next to enrage the fuckers?" The whole situation has just been kindly gift-wrapped for Ashley; he knows a guy who (theoretically) is an upgrade on Llambias, but also provides a means of solving the most immediate problem - Pardew. It's a plot to shift the manager for less than what it would have cost to sack him, and I'm certain I'll be proved right on that when Pardew inevitably walks. And he's got his mate and a 'football man' that the club so badly needs at that level. Merry Christmas, Mike Ashley. Everything bad that Ashley's done has been intended for his own personal gain and/or based on total ignorance towards the sport (and its fans, obviously). I just don't think he's made a conceited attempt to be a cartoon villain - he's still got a business to run at the end of the day. None of this makes him any less of a cunt, btw - like I say: he's clueless, careless, selfish and ignorant. I'd say they are the adjectives best suited to the man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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