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There's really no reason why he would have done that interview, all i'm reading into it is that he's finally accepted that he'll never make a success of it here, Rafa is essentially last throw of the dice. Essentially he's putting it out there that he'll listen to offers for the club, regardless of whether we stay up or not.

 

Letting the club fail would cost him a hell of a lot more than than funding us back up (if relegated) so he'll have to make the money available. If we do stay up, the club would be a far more attractive proposition if Rafa was putting a decent squad together.

 

I think this is positive.. end game is in sight finally.

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The ridiculous thing is he's not saying anything any of us didn't know already and yet the media make it out like his comments are some sort of revelation! We've known he hates the club, hates the fans and wishes he'd never bought us for years!

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:lol: He "only picks the board".

 

You gave Charnley, Carr and Moncur the responsibility of running a Premier League football club you utter cretin.

 

He's desperately trying to absolve himself of any blame - through the club's official media partner - and it won't f***ing wash.

 

He also should've been asked to expand on why we're stuck with him.

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  On 21/03/2016 at 22:31, Darth Crooks said:

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3 seasons or more without premier league involvement and he's likely to sell. If you're going to assume it's on a single years basis like before then of course he won't. The act of relegation isn't the cause; it's the aftermath.

 

Amazing insight!

 

Well my passive aggressive chum, someone seems to be arguing the opposite.

 

No offence. I totally agree with you.

 

I don't care if we end up as other 'Leeds or Portsmouth' (yawn) - I just want my club back.

 

As long as that fat c*** is owner, we're going nowhere. Except down the way.

 

Guarantee we could get 45,000 in the Conference with competent people at the helm who actually care about the club, fans, etc.

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He just randomly speaks when he fucking feels like it, don't ever trust a word that fat cunt has ever said. Since he's taken over he's done nothing but ruin our club. When we have a team finishing 5th, we don't kick on; we liquidate. We struggle, we never sack Pardew, we nearly fall with Carver with unprecedented losses; somehow we stay up. How do we correct this? We throw a ton of money into players + Steve McClaren. We leave it far too late and now we have Rafa basically trying to do an epic salvage job...insane. 

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Nothing new in these words. He says he won't sell but we know he will if a good bid comes in, as was always the case. And of course he regrets buying the club.

 

The only interesting part is his pessimism about staying up.

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Why do people use the 'he didn't sell us when we went down last time' line knowing full well that when we went down he put us up for sale? I'm not saying one thing equals the other, but the evidence is more in favour of him selling than not.

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Him not selling/no one buying last time surely supports the idea that we'll be stuck with him if we go down again?

 

That being said, who knows if that is even a yardstick now, given how the financial landscape has the changed in six years (but more poignantly will do in the years to follow)?

 

I think it's impossible to predict what will happen if we go down, other than the material things like losing players and inevitably the manager.

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  On 21/03/2016 at 22:50, Dave said:

He said: “I have virtually nil affect on Newcastle United, in reality, because I only pick the board.”

 

:lol:

 

And I'm sure the club came to plaster us in Sports Direct and the Wonga sponsor without any input from Ashley. Pure coincidence.

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  On 22/03/2016 at 06:06, Darth Crooks said:

Don't know why people take so much credence in the won't sell line. The blokes a fucking liar.

He is but, barring a multi-tier drop, I get the feeling he won't sell at a non-extortionate price, e.g. 400m+. It's not a good deal unless someone else is getting fucked over.
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  On 22/03/2016 at 07:19, JH said:

The fact he is giving this interview now, shows how little he cares about the club.

 

What a stupid f***ing time to start speaking.

 

Exactly. Some positivity albeit slim is back and this poisonous oaf decides to open his mouth.  F*** off.

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  On 22/03/2016 at 07:14, Darth Crooks said:

Oh for sure, it's just people take the I win sell for any price as bond - certainly not whilst the gravy train is still rolling.

 

If someone offers a price he is happy with , then he will sell. It really is that simple. He is a businessman not a football man.

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  On 22/03/2016 at 07:19, JH said:

The fact he is giving this interview now, shows how little he cares about the club.

 

What a stupid fucking time to start speaking.

 

Totally agree.

 

The question I've got is why now and what is the actual message? Forget what he's saying and ask what he's actually meaning to convey.

 

It's clearly an attempt to absolve himself because (and I said this yesterday after watching him on SSN) he fancies us to go down. Watch the interview on YT or wherever and you can tell he thinks it's a massive long shot that we'll survive.

 

Does anyone remember that story from last season about him having analysts working on whether we'd survive or not? Basically predicting the likelihood of staying up/going down. You have to wonder whether they're doing the same exercise this season and they don't like what they're seeing/hearing.

 

I don't buy that he's just shooting from the hip. I just don't think that's him. He's always been hugely wary of the media so I really don't think he gives them this, for nothing, he's certainly getting something out of it. The question is what?

 

NUFC Fan sympathy? Not going to happen.

Wider empathy? Perhaps but even he must see that that ship has sailed.

Is it an indirect message to Rafa about money? Very possibly. Once thing is for sure, RB would not appreciate the owner coming out like that.

Is it a message to potential buyers? Also, very possibly. There's something in the wording of 'we're stuck with each other' that almost infers, I've tried to flog'em, I can't, we're stuck together that almost invites interest/cold enquiries.

 

The headlines this morning of 'I wish I'd never bought NUFC' (from his preferred media partner btw) are so unhelpful, so damaging that you have to wonder how he's completely missed the point with us. It was so simple. If he'd told his board (:lol: btw) that they should appoint a manager with serious credibility from day one then we'd never be where we are, the fans would be relatively happy sitting in mid-table knowing that they'd actually started to invest properly and he'd be generating even more profit thanks to the TV deal etc.

 

He's made a real job of this. It's actually quite hard to get it this wrong but he has. All of the absolution in the world won't get away from the fact that it's not easy to fuck it up this badly.

 

The message, the tone, everything has changed so dramatically from the May2015 interview, especially given he's not had any stick at really since, makes me think he's got an agenda surrounding this interview and I can only conclude it's to either smoke out some interest from buyers or to manage expectations should we drop.

 

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