Lush Vlad Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 IYAM this is all down to him trying to win some public sympathy for himself and SD - he is trying to portray an image where is he is the innocent victim - those nasty MPs and the media hounding him for answers and damaging the reputation of SD and the NUFC personnel making mistakes with which he has no involvement yet is still blamed for. Surely it is because of the NUFC connection that there is increased interest in how he is running SD. He maybe trying to absolve himself of any culpability with our failings as a club but there are too many similarities in the way both SD and we are run for anyone to believe that he has no involvement. He is certainly responsible for the current system that is in place and if he wants to disassociate himself from that then he needs to go out and hire the best Football Administrator/CEO he can and let them run NUFC as they see fit. The fact that he admits that he is only responsible for who is on the board is surely an admission that the failure of NUFC is his responsibility as he is not appointing staff who are fit for purpose and they have up until now been running the club according to his blueprint. SD have not had a Financial Director for a couple of years now - and that is one of the many gripes SD investors have but as far as I am aware we have not yet replaced John Irving who resigned last year. I guess that would be Ashley's responsibility as that was previously a board position - another example of Ashley being somewhat disingenuous. The fact he is giving this interview now, shows how little he cares about the club. What a stupid f***ing time to start speaking. Totally agree. The question I've got is why now and what is the actual message? Forget what he's saying and ask what he's actually meaning to convey. It's clearly an attempt to absolve himself because (and I said this yesterday after watching him on SSN) he fancies us to go down. Watch the interview on YT or wherever and you can tell he thinks it's a massive long shot that we'll survive. Does anyone remember that story from last season about him having analysts working on whether we'd survive or not? Basically predicting the likelihood of staying up/going down. You have to wonder whether they're doing the same exercise this season and they don't like what they're seeing/hearing. I don't buy that he's just shooting from the hip. I just don't think that's him. He's always been hugely wary of the media so I really don't think he gives them this, for nothing, he's certainly getting something out of it. The question is what? NUFC Fan sympathy? Not going to happen. Wider empathy? Perhaps but even he must see that that ship has sailed. Is it an indirect message to Rafa about money? Very possibly. Once thing is for sure, RB would not appreciate the owner coming out like that. Is it a message to potential buyers? Also, very possibly. There's something in the wording of 'we're stuck with each other' that almost infers, I've tried to flog'em, I can't, we're stuck together that almost invites interest/cold enquiries. The headlines this morning of 'I wish I'd never bought NUFC' (from his preferred media partner btw) are so unhelpful, so damaging that you have to wonder how he's completely missed the point with us. It was so simple. If he'd told his board ( btw) that they should appoint a manager with serious credibility from day one then we'd never be where we are, the fans would be relatively happy sitting in mid-table knowing that they'd actually started to invest properly and he'd be generating even more profit thanks to the TV deal etc. He's made a real job of this. It's actually quite hard to get it this wrong but he has. All of the absolution in the world won't get away from the fact that it's not easy to f*** it up this badly. The message, the tone, everything has changed so dramatically from the May2015 interview, especially given he's not had any stick at really since, makes me think he's got an agenda surrounding this interview and I can only conclude it's to either smoke out some interest from buyers or to manage expectations should we drop. Deserves to be on the new page. Good posts from Wallace and Minhosa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Looks like he could go if we are relegated, God knows where we'll be this time next year in the championship with no rafa and only the dregs of a squad left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Looks like he could go if we are relegated, God knows where we'll be this time next year in the championship with no rafa and only the dregs of a squad left A lot of people would take this scenario in a heartbeat I imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Club's going to be wound up within a few years I feel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 It's basically it a "I think we're going down and when we do, there isn't any money to rebuild so don't expect any. PS it's not my fault" How quickly the media have forgotten 'The buck stops with me' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Blokes a pathological liar and a fucking sociopath. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 It's basically it a "I think we're going down and when we do, there isn't any money to rebuild so don't expect any. PS it's not my fault" How quickly the media have forgotten 'The buck stops with me' Yes. And him too by the sounds of it. Can't wrap my head around this at all but, know for sure, that this is not without agenda. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Blokes a pathological liar and a fucking sociopath. This totally. There he was speaking yesterday inviting mp's to sports direct hq to show them that it isn't really a modern day sweatshop that treats its employees with utter contempt, but a modern day employee utopia where everything is fantastic and staff are treated like gods The bloke needs fucking put down like a stricken horse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Mike Ashley's mouth knocks another 8% off Sports Direct share price as founder tells paper profits will fall this year Read more: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-3504233/Mike-Ashley-s-mouth-knocks-8-Sports-Direct-share-price-founder-tells-paper-profits-fall-year.html#ixzz43dSHgGJh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Ashley says he won't sell but also that we're reluctantly wedded together? In other words, he'd like to sell if a bid came in. Just like it's always been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 It reads as if Newcastle has been emptying his pockets but the reality of it is, its all his own piss poor decision making that cost him money. Ashley is obviously feeling the media heat so has started making public statements in his defence. Keep the pressure on fat man, keep it right up. I feel Newcastle United is now at a massive cross roads, we either stay up and build or the most likely scenario is us going down and not returning for a long time as the club struggles with his reckless half arsed ownership in the championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Will be interesting what happens with Sports Direct shares should Jonas win his case against the club. I'm not 100% sure how all this works but I suspect the media will use this as further justification that he is in fact an unjust owner of any business should Jonas win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Will be interesting what happens with Sports Direct shares should Jonas win his case against the club. I'm not 100% sure how all this works but I suspect the media will use this as further justification that he is in fact an unjust owner of any business should Jonas win. Indeed, his failure at running us half competently is coming back to haunt him with SD. If Jonas wins his case, it makes mistreatment of staff at SD more credible and those employees are not in a position to fight back . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 It's basically it a "I think we're going down and when we do, there isn't any money to rebuild so don't expect any. PS it's not my fault" Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Mike Ashley's mouth knocks another 8% off Sports Direct share price as founder tells paper profits will fall this year Read more: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-3504233/Mike-Ashley-s-mouth-knocks-8-Sports-Direct-share-price-founder-tells-paper-profits-fall-year.html#ixzz43dSHgGJh Good to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Talksport talking about him now. Reckon we've spent our money badly, pointed out we didn't buy defenders or strikers. Also said Ashley has put £80m of his own money in this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Ashley says he won't sell but also that we're reluctantly wedded together? In other words, he'd like to sell if a bid came in. Just like it's always been. He bought the club to promote SD and our ground is still covered with SD adverts so he's doing what he always planned. Don't see how there's any evidence he actually wants to sell. He says loads of shit (or gets others to do it) to keep fans pacified and clearly it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Also said Ashley has put £80m of his own money in this season. Such blatant WUMs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Also said Ashley has put £80m of his own money in this season. Such blatant WUMs Wasn't even them, it was their NE correspondent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Oh for sure, it's just people take the I win sell for any price as bond - certainly not whilst the gravy train is still rolling. If someone offers a price he is happy with , then he will sell. It really is that simple. He is a businessman not a football man. This is true to some extent. The problem is that, as things stand, he's getting free (global) SD adverts for the next few decades. It's going to take a massive offer to convince him. If fans want him out they're going to have to force it and make SD's association with NUFC toxic. This is easier in the Championship, which is why a lot of people want/wanted us relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I don't think it's simple as naming a price. He'll want conditions attached to any sale that tie our retail/advertising arm in with his company for years, as he has done with Rangers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Also said Ashley has put £80m of his own money in this season. Such blatant WUMs Wasn't even them, it was their NE correspondent For goodness sake. That's tragic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Thread title change tbh for those not keeping track of this thread - Mike Ashley regrets buying Newcastle United - BBC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DonaldGrump Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Ashley says he won't sell but also that we're reluctantly wedded together? In other words, he'd like to sell if a bid came in. Just like it's always been. More like he knows he wont get the money he wants for the club so he wont sell on the cheap and would rather run it into the ground than do so. We are royally fucked, I said from the minute the Keegan affair blew up that he was bad news and that the club would be ruined, yet there were so many fools blindly believing otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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