Altamullan Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Understand and share (some of) the skepticism, but this is good news and potentially turns this enjoyable period (Rafa, winning Championship, Rafa, solid start and performances in PL, Rafa...) into an awesome time to be a Newcastle fan. Long overdue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Dream scenario: Consortium in with Keegan in a director of football/chief transfer negotiator type role. Ambitious plans in place with stadium expansion, new shops to open around the area bringing the club closer to the fans as well as an honest plan to improve year on year. Realistic scenario: Ashley to take club off market at the end of January when the window closes due to the world financial issues or brexit crap. No thank you. The Keegan ship has sailed a long time ago imo. Time to move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Waddle must have been given a little nudge off Keith Bishop. :-( As has been said previously, there’s going to be lots of Ashley revisionism in the media over the next few days! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk People credit Keith Bishop with far too much, man. Nah fam. He's the cockney goebbells Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Could be that Ashley has already received an offer for the club but he considers it derisory, so he's put out the statement to unearth other interested parties or encourage the existing offerer to up their bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Dream scenario: Consortium in with Keegan in a director of football/chief transfer negotiator type role. Ambitious plans in place with stadium expansion, new shops to open around the area bringing the club closer to the fans as well as an honest plan to improve year on year. Realistic scenario: Ashley to take club off market at the end of January when the window closes due to the world financial issues or brexit crap. Not sure how any director of football would be a good ideal given how hands on Rafa is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Could be that Ashley has already received an offer for the club but he considers it derisory, so he's put out the statement to unearth other interested parties or encourage the existing offerer to up their bid. If other interested parties need an installment plan I wouldn't want them and I hope they wouldn't be tempted anyway. IMO groups/businesses who could buy the club outright wouldn't have needed prompted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 These types of deals aren't done by sticking an ad on gumtree ffs. It's pure PR, nothing more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Could be that Ashley has already received an offer for the club but he considers it derisory, so he's put out the statement to unearth other interested parties or encourage the existing offerer to up their bid. If other interested parties need an installment plan I wouldn't want them and I hope they wouldn't be tempted anyway. IMO groups/businesses who could buy the club outright wouldn't have needed prompted. From Ashley's point of view though, £380m in instalments is better than £250m in one payment. If they choose to pay in instalments it doesn't necessarily mean they're skint, maybe they'd want a structured payment plan so they can continue to accrue interest on the millions in the bank. I'm no financial expert but i'm sure there are other benefits to paying in instalments as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Dream scenario: Consortium in with Keegan in a director of football/chief transfer negotiator type role. Ambitious plans in place with stadium expansion, new shops to open around the area bringing the club closer to the fans as well as an honest plan to improve year on year. Realistic scenario: Ashley to take club off market at the end of January when the window closes due to the world financial issues or brexit crap. Why would they put Keegan in place above Rafa and why would that be the dream scenario? Sounds awful to me. We have the dream scenario in terms of management already, the new owners just need to back them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Could be that Ashley has already received an offer for the club but he considers it derisory, so he's put out the statement to unearth other interested parties or encourage the existing offerer to up their bid. If other interested parties need an installment plan I wouldn't want them and I hope they wouldn't be tempted anyway. IMO groups/businesses who could buy the club outright wouldn't have needed prompted. From Ashley's point of view though, £380m in instalments is better than £250m in one payment. If they choose to pay in instalments it doesn't necessarily mean they're skint, maybe they'd want a structured payment plan so they can continue to accrue interest on the millions in the bank. I'm no financial expert but i'm sure there are other benefits to paying in instalments as well. I don't know like. Yeah it's better for Ashley (more money) but if a group fails to have the financial clout to buy outright and would rather overspend on installments doesn't that bode poorly for their capacity to invest substantially and move the club forward? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Nobody can sell the club as well as Keegan. If I were Ashley I'd be on the phone to him and offer him a selling fee, we'd be gone in days. But no, manager needs absolute power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Dream scenario: Consortium in with Keegan in a director of football/chief transfer negotiator type role. Ambitious plans in place with stadium expansion, new shops to open around the area bringing the club closer to the fans as well as an honest plan to improve year on year. Realistic scenario: Ashley to take club off market at the end of January when the window closes due to the world financial issues or brexit crap. Dont want Keegan anywhere near footballing decisions when Rafa Benitez is here thank you very much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Rafa and Keegan have completely different footballing philosophies so I couldn't see it working at all. Keegan in an ambassadorial role would be a nice touch though. I'd love to see him as Head of the academy but again, I think his and Rafa's footballing differences would cause problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 People banging on about wanting Keegan back is part of the reason we get ridiculed by the media and other fanbases. Yes it was great but that was over 20 years ago, time to move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 People banging on about wanting Keegan back is part of the reason we get ridiculed by the media and other fanbases. Yes it was great but that was over 20 years ago, time to move on. Aye it's ludicrous to suggest for a moment that we would want someone with the club's best interests at the heart of decision making. And I couldn't give two shits what other fans think and certainly not the media. However, Keegan is a non starter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Dream scenario: Consortium in with Keegan in a director of football/chief transfer negotiator type role. Ambitious plans in place with stadium expansion, new shops to open around the area bringing the club closer to the fans as well as an honest plan to improve year on year. Realistic scenario: Ashley to take club off market at the end of January when the window closes due to the world financial issues or brexit crap. Why would they put Keegan in place above Rafa and why would that be the dream scenario? Sounds awful to me. We have the dream scenario in terms of management already, the new owners just need to back them. This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Toon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Cant see how wanting a club legend here in an honest role to improve the club is a reason for us to be mocked. I agree, maybe not in a role that conflicts with Rafa but for someone to have both played and managed us and completely 'get' what we all want, it's a no brainer. He could do Charnley's role in his sleep for one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 What competence does Keegan have to work as a director of football exactly? Is your view that director of football is just some figure head for the club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 If we are going to appoint a club ambassador, I'd rather it was Shearer than Keegan. He's far more current, a lot of younger players won't have a clue who Keegan is. But only as a club ambassador with no executive authority Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Toon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 What competence does Keegan have to work as a director of football exactly? Is your view that director of football is just some figure head for the club? Ive explained what I meant by saying more like a Charnley role although not in making the teas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I mean, could he? Not deciding the players, just negotiating for them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Toon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 If we are going to appoint a club ambassador, I'd rather it was Shearer than Keegan. He's far more current, a lot of younger players won't have a clue who Keegan is. But only as a club ambassador with no executive authority Id say the same applies to many of the fans. Keegan was the first coming of what Rafa has brought in the past year and a bit but on a much bigger scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Talkshite talkin bout is this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 What competence does Keegan have to work as a director of football exactly? Is your view that director of football is just some figure head for the club? Ive explained what I meant by saying more like a Charnley role although not in making the teas. As managing director? So what compentence does he have for that role? Just because Ashley has hired incompetent people in important roles doesn't mean that's the only way to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Has Keegan ever expressed interest in a DoF type role? Genuine question, I haven't seen any reports indicating it. And I ask because, not having seen the affirmative, would he even want a role like that? Would he be comfortable not running things the way he sees fit on the pitch as well? He very well might do fine as one but my thoughts are he'd rather be on the touchline than the directors box and it would be hell for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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