Interpolic Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 There's so much intent like, it's lovely to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 There's so much intent like, it's lovely to see. Top of the Intent League Bottom of the form League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 but we've put in... wait, was that sarcastic or not? I'm lost. God I wish one of these deals would just come off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 i took it more negatively than that, "aggressive" in terms of haggling over price asking what they wanted and offering the lowest price that is possible to get away with. Paying for things in full and in one go will only get you so much off but we feel that this approach will get millions and millions off the asking price. All in the pursuit of value which really is a subjective thing anyway as one player to some club could be deemed a luxury while others it is essential as to how they are going to play and take the side forward. We don't seem to recongnise that at all. Agreed - if you have a good asset, worth a lot of money, you are not going to sell it for a pittance especially if you have more than 1 person wanting to buy it.. The clowns running NUFC seem to think they are above all the normal laws of supply and demand... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 But then the club would be far shitter and less valuable... I just can't see relegation under any circumstances being something that might seem worth the risk, even if he did think we'd come straight back up. Which we wouldn't if we sold everyone I can see what you're getting at, I just don't think it's very realistic I agree, but when did Mike Ashley do common sense? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 You can tell by Pards desperation that there isn't that much going on that looks promising....Simple. Think we started with about 5 enquiries and am not sure how much more we have on the serious list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/mike-ashley-gets-hands-on-in-newcastle-s-search-for-signings-1-5332832 Some absolutely shocking Pardew quotes in there. He clearly doesn't trust Mike & Derek to deliver what he requires anymore either and is trying to get the fans on his side for the inevitable backlash: Mike Ashley gets hands-on in Newcastle’s search for signings AGGRESSIVE ... Derek Llambias and Mike Ashley. By MILES STARFORTH Published on Saturday 19 January 2013 10:00 MIKE Ashley’s taken a hands-on role in Newcastle United’s transfer business – with the club’s Premier League status on the line. Toon boss Alan Pardew’s desperate for two more signings. Newcastle were just two points above the relegation zone ahead of this afternoon’s home game against Reading. And Pardew says Ashley is acutely aware that he has a “weak” hand until further reinforcements arrive. However, Pardew – who isn’t involved directly in transfer negotiations – refused to make any promises to supporters, mindful of his pledge to keep hold of striker Andy Carroll, who left the club two years ago. “They’ve had enough false promises from managers here in the past, even from myself with the Andy Carroll situation,” Pardew told the Gazette. “I’m not going to fall into that trap. “All I will say is that since I have been at the club – which is all I can talk about, my history here – we’re the most aggressive I’ve ever seen us in terms of the people who do the negotiations. “Mike, Derek (Llambias) and Lee Charnley have been aggressive in the market. “They know that I’m weak, and they want to strengthen my hand. I thank them for that. Hopefully, they get the players.” United lost out on Loic Remy this week, with the striker opting to join basement club Queens Park Rangers, who tabled a more lucrative offer to the 26-year-old. That left fans – who saw leading scorer Demba Ba join Chelsea last month – frustrated. But Pardew believes the right calibre of player can be signed within the financial boundaries set by Ashley. While a striker and a centre-half are the top priorities, Newcastle have had a £2m bid accepted by Nancy for left-back Massadio Haidara, and the club is discussing personal terms with the 20-year-old’s representative. “Our financial position’s so much stronger than it has ever been,” added Pardew. “But we find ourselves in a position where we need to invest in the team – I think that’s fairly obvious. We’re going to do that, but within the boundaries that have been set out. “They aren’t boundaries that I’ve set – they’re boundaries that the owner has set. “I have to abide by them. At the same time, I’ll still push for the best possible players I can get. Hopefully, the negotiations, that aren’t done by me, bear fruit.” With a new £5bn three-year Premier League TV deal to kick in next season, the consequences of relegation are unthinkable. And the cost of a couple of signings pales into insignificance when compared with the financial hit the club would take by dropping down a division. “This club has already been relegated not so long ago,” said Pardew. “To be fair to Mike, he was in a position where he could keep the team together. “If you keep the team, you go back up. “But we don’t want to be in that scenario. The last person who wants that position is Mike Ashley. “He doesn’t want to go back to that. We’re aggressive, but we can’t be overly aggressive. We have to do what we think is right for the club.” Remy yesterday claimed he joined QPR for footballing, and not financial, reasons. The France international said he was “excited by the QPR project”. On the proposed Remy deal, Pardew went on: “We made the right offer (to Olympique Marseille), and it was accepted. “We made the player an unbelievable offer. The attraction for him and us was that he was French. It would have made him very easy for him to integrate. “I was very surprised by his decision, and I don’t know what swayed that decision.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 What I see/hear is a man already thrown in the towel and is doing what he can to cover his own arse. As I have said before I have no sympathy for him because he 100% knew what he was getting into. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 It just seems like Ashley is playing a mega expensive game of Football Manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 It just seems like Ashley is playing a mega expensive game of Football Manager. Seems he is and we are ones who suffer the agony of lack of investment this summer has left us in this mess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 When is tollemache coming on to tell us all that we must wait until deadline day to sign someone to play instead of Shola and that that's acceptable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Even though it's blindingly obvious that it should happen, I just can't see Ashley showing Pardew the door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 With the flurry of targets in the last couple of days, are people starting to feel we might actually have been reasonably well prepared for this window? Still a while to go obviously Ultimately it doesn't make any difference how much we spend on new players in the next two weeks, if Pardew is still manager at the end of that period it will tell us far more about Ashley than any balance sheets will. Hughton was sacked supposedly for being a soft touch with the players despite our performances on the pitch which were far superior to what we are currently seeing, with much worse players. Appointing incompetent yes men is one thing, but to stubbornly leave them at the helm when the ship is sinking is beyond explanation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 If we go down, and miss out on this tv cash... We are fucked, properly properly fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Do we believe he is going to splash the cash on three players this week ? caught something on SSN this morning about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Do we believe he is going to splash the cash on three players this week ? caught something on SSN this morning about it It's pointless believing anything, it's just blind guesswork when dealing with Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Do we believe he is going to splash the cash on three players this week ? caught something on SSN this morning about it It's pointless believing anything, it's just blind guesswork when dealing with Ashley. Think it's pretty apparent that he's feeling the heat this window. I think this is about as close as we'll ever get to "total panic buy anything that moves" with Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Do we believe he is going to splash the cash on three players this week ? caught something on SSN this morning about it I think he might well offer cash for 3 players - whether it's enough and we actually sign them is another matter entirely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Do we believe he is going to splash the cash on three players this week ? caught something on SSN this morning about it It's pointless believing anything, it's just blind guesswork when dealing with Ashley. Think it's pretty apparent that he's feeling the heat this window. I think this is about as close as we'll ever get to "total panic buy anything that moves" with Ashley. Yeah I'd say even he is start to get a few fat sweats coming on at night looking at the table and the way Pardew ensured complete capitulation second half against Reading which I believe he saw with his own eyes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I feel he's on for an unusual big/quality spending spree this window. I really feel he's going to nail a bunch of transfers. I'm not pissed, either He's definitely willing to spend in this window, we've already bought Debuchy, probably a CB and narrowly missed out on Remy. I don't know how anyone can deny we're looking to sign people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Do we believe he is going to splash the cash on three players this week ? caught something on SSN this morning about it 3 players on Monday usually turns into 1 player by Friday, sick of hearing it to be honest surely its easier just to keep quiet instead of looking stupid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 When is tollemache coming on to tell us all that we must wait until deadline day to sign someone to play instead of Shola and that that's acceptable? Could happen at any point... sooner the better obviously, and it does look like we might be closing in on one or two in the next day or so, but if one or two of them take longer that's just the way it goes. I just don't think it's possible to click your fingers and insist everything gets done in 2 days unless you have enough money to render irrelevant any attempts by other clubs, agents and the players themselves to maximise their profits, so talking about whether our rate of progress is acceptable or not doesn't really work. We don't have insane amounts of money so if an agent wants to play silly buggers until deadline day, which they love to do, then we just have to play along. I haven't seen anything this window to suggest that we don't have a decent list of targets and we're going for them as quickly as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 When is tollemache coming on to tell us all that we must wait until deadline day to sign someone to play instead of Shola and that that's acceptable? Could happen at any point... sooner the better obviously, and it does look like we might be closing in on one or two in the next day or so, but if one or two of them take longer that's just the way it goes. I just don't think it's possible to click your fingers and insist everything gets done in 2 days unless you have enough money to render irrelevant any attempts by other clubs, agents and the players themselves to maximise their profits. We don't have that much money so if an agent wants to play silly buggers until deadline day, which they love to do, then we just have to play along. I haven't seen anything this window to suggest that we don't have a decent list of targets and we're going for them as quickly as possible. It'll be interesting to see the reaction if we do end up with a RB, CB and forward. Probably just be 'he should have done it sooner'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest strongbow69 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 When is tollemache coming on to tell us all that we must wait until deadline day to sign someone to play instead of Shola and that that's acceptable? Could happen at any point... sooner the better obviously, and it does look like we might be closing in on one or two in the next day or so, but if one or two of them take longer that's just the way it goes. I just don't think it's possible to click your fingers and insist everything gets done in 2 days unless you have enough money to render irrelevant any attempts by other clubs, agents and the players themselves to maximise their profits. We don't have that much money so if an agent wants to play silly buggers until deadline day, which they love to do, then we just have to play along. I haven't seen anything this window to suggest that we don't have a decent list of targets and we're going for them as quickly as possible. It'll be interesting to see the reaction if we do end up with a RB, CB and forward. Probably just be 'he should have done it sooner'. which would be a fair reaction in all honesty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I feel he's on for an unusual big/quality spending spree this window. I really feel he's going to nail a bunch of transfers. I'm not p*ssed, either He's definitely willing to spend in this window, we've already bought Debuchy, probably a CB and narrowly missed out on Remy. I don't know how anyone can deny we're looking to sign people. The cold hard fact is we have signed one player, nearly signed and probably signed don't count Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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