ponsaelius Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Aren't the mackems sponsored by an organisation that facilitates neo-colonialism in Africa? I don't think there's a morally sound sponsor in the Premier League. I'm more annoyed because it looks tacky tbh, and the fact it doesn't seem to be too lucrative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 As long as the deal is financially better for the club than the one we have with Virgin I don't have too many objections other than the fact that Wonga is a lame name. Wonga provide a service that is optional for anyone to take them up on, and as far as I can tell, they give good information of what their service will cost in total, including consequences if repayment is not made. It is a crappy situation to be in if you need money ugrently, but if you know the fix is only temporary, and that you will not be able to pay back within the given time limit coming off worse than you started off, then why loan the money in the first place? What should Wonga do about it? Just write the debt off because they feel sorry for the people that couldn't pay back and go pro bono? They do financial background checks on all people before giving out a loan, and if it is deemed that they are able to pay back the loan (which parameters I assume is not governed by Wonga), why should they get the wrong end of the stick when people are not able to pay back? People are too quick to victimise themselves. If you take up a loan you cannot pay back for whatever reason - tough luck, and try to deal with it as best as you can. Try to broker a repayment scheme with Wonga, get a long term loan from the bank/social services (if that is something they provide in UK) to repay Wonga, loan from family, friends etc. I understand the sentiment expressed here and I agree with you on the self-victimisation point. However first of all Wonga is essentially a Shylock business. If you went to a mate because you were desperate and they offered you the same terms you would think they were a terrible human being. Secondly a significant proportion of the people who find themselves reliant on these services don't possess competent skills of judgement in the first place and therefore any business that takes advantage of that is pretty shameful. In my personal experience the background checks performed are negligible too. There is a point to be made about the inequality of bargaining power as regards to whats fair. That being said we are talking about football sponsorship. There is a fair bit of moral bankruptcy present in football. Wonga's proposed sponsorship is a drop in the Ocean compared to all the other things that are wrong in the game. Also its capitalism at the end of the day. Most business make their money through exploitation. Im certain that a lot of what I am wearing right now has come from people who were exploited. We just choose to shut our eyes to it and pick up on little bits and pieces once in a while, like a little virtuous valve that says we're still good people. At the end of the day its a rubbish name that will look bad on shirts and as football fans that's all we ought to be bothered about. If you went round a mates house, they gave you a bottle of beer then charged you £3.50 for it you would think they are a cunt as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toondave Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Aren't the mackems sponsored by an organisation that facilitates neo-colonialism in Africa? I don't think there's a morally sound sponsor in the Premier League. I'm more annoyed because it looks tacky tbh, and the fact it doesn't seem to be too lucrative. Yeah exactly it's look shid that is everyone's argument they just want to saddle up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Name me a capitalist organisation that's morally sound? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Simon O'Rourke @sorourkeITV #NUFC it's about to become official. Wonga are Newcastle's new shirt sponsor. Details about to be revealed. pic.twitter.com/ysqfa7n0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I hope it doesn't include naming rights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Crap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I can't wait to see the offers, if your a season ticket holder you can get a loan for only 3000%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Oh fuck, this is the worst one yet. At least sportsdirect is related to sport. Wonga is a fucking horrible, scum company. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I'm not too bothered about the shirt sponsorship, the Wonga stadium would be a different matter though imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 GTFI Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 fucking hell how tacky have we become. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Worse than being sponsored by an alcohol brand tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Oh f***, this is the worst one yet. At least sportsdirect is related to sport. Wonga is a f***ing horrible, scum company. and sport direct aint. At the end of the day, it's more money in the bank. We can naff all about it so just suck it up and get on with it. Yes i'm well aware that the money may go to ashley's pocket to lower the debt. Who knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Oh, and will I fuck be buying this kit I liked last years one anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I hope the Wonga puppets used in the adverts give the press conference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 It is scum like, I know a lot of companies are but loan agencies, especially wonga leave a sick taste in my mouth. Just another divisive move. I like the idea of more cash coming in but its such a shame it'll be to those dicks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mackem Logic Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 O'Rourke appears to have deleted that tweet??!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Oh f***, this is the worst one yet. At least sportsdirect is related to sport. Wonga is a f***ing horrible, scum company. and sport direct aint. At the end of the day, it's more money in the bank. We can naff all about it so just suck it up and get on with it. Yes i'm well aware that the money may go to ashley's pocket to lower the debt. Who knows. If it goes into Ashley's pocket then it's a few quid closer to him pissing off, so if you're an ardent Ashley-outer there is still a plus side. Horrible looking bloody logo though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 O'Rourke appears to have deleted that tweet??!! Probably broken an embargo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 He has deleted it, weird. But yeah, probs what Sewelly said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 As long as it's not on the next batch of onesies I'm calm tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Are they just gonna wheel Pardew out for this press conference as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 And the people who never even dealt with them and still end up with ruined credit and baliffs at their door because of Wonga's dubious business practices brought it on themselves as well, fucking scum. IMAWT! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 How is that possible Bluestar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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