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At the risk of derailing the topic further, if a player had extremely strong beliefs against companies like Wonga but was a flag waving athiest could they get away with wearing a Wonga free shirt? And if not why not?

 

Nope, and because we rather stupidly give far too much respect to religions.

Well said. We look the other way at extremism and say it ISN'T the religion, when it damn well IS - and almost put the thoughts into the minds that whatever they do, it's "understandable"

Same applies here. People with NOTHING to do with football are - quite literally - telling certain players to "rebel"

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In all honesty, what annoys me more than what Lee Ryder says and writes is what he doesn't say and write.

 

Him and the Chronicle are still far too cosy with the club. There should be far more searching questions about the failed transfer window, poor start to the season and chronic under performances.

 

I've regularly flicked through the Manchester Evening News over the last few years and noted there are far more willing to criticise when it feels it necessary. It irritates me how the paper still kow-tows to the club.

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In all honesty, what annoys me more than what Lee Ryder says and writes is what he doesn't say and write.

 

Him and the Chronicle are still far too cosy with the club. There should be far more searching questions about the failed transfer window, poor start to the season and chronic under performances.

 

I've regularly flicked through the Manchester Evening News over the last few years and noted there are far more willing to criticise when it feels it necessary. It irritates me how the paper still kow-tows to the club.

 

the Chronicle is a shit paper, especially compared to the MEN, thats the top and bottom of it.  What's on the front pages is just as shoddy as whats on the back.

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In all honesty, what annoys me more than what Lee Ryder says and writes is what he doesn't say and write.

 

Him and the Chronicle are still far too cosy with the club. There should be far more searching questions about the failed transfer window, poor start to the season and chronic under performances.

 

I've regularly flicked through the Manchester Evening News over the last few years and noted there are far more willing to criticise when it feels it necessary. It irritates me how the paper still kow-tows to the club.

 

The Chronicle is completely at the mercy of the club, they literally can't afford to fall out with them.

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Loan danger: Fury as Newcastle prepare to sign "financial predators" as sponsors

by Which one of you is Simon Bird?

 

Local MP Ian Lavery has pledged to send his season tickets back if, as expected, the sponsorship deal goes through imminently.

 

Lavery, Labour MP for Wansbeck, has vowed to return his two platinum club tickets and break off all ties with the club.

 

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastles-wonga-shirt-sponsors-spark-1367970

 

labour MP with a pair of platinum tickets. 

 

what a c*** he sounds, complaining about this deal.

 

aye, spending his wage on something he likes, what a c*** :lol:

 

Ian Lavery's a total joker:

 

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How does Wonga even work so fast anyway, is there no clearing time for the bank transfer? It's usually something like 3 working days isn't it? I was reading earlier that apparently Wonga do it in like 6 minutes :lol:

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Manager Pardew said: “I’m a romantic. The stadium name hurt me and it hurt the team. It’s one of those business decisions which you can’t get your head round at times as a football person, so to have it back to St James’ Park is great.

 

“I have already said that the same sign should go back up – not a new one, the old one. I am absolutely overjoyed.”

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Manager Pardew said: “I’m a romantic. The stadium name hurt me and it hurt the team. It’s one of those business decisions which you can’t get your head round at times as a football person, so to have it back to St James’ Park is great.

 

“I have already said that the same sign should go back up – not a new one, the old one. I am absolutely overjoyed.”

 

Puppet. :hmm:

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Loan danger: Fury as Newcastle prepare to sign "financial predators" as sponsors

by Which one of you is Simon Bird?

 

Local MP Ian Lavery has pledged to send his season tickets back if, as expected, the sponsorship deal goes through imminently.

 

Lavery, Labour MP for Wansbeck, has vowed to return his two platinum club tickets and break off all ties with the club.

 

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastles-wonga-shirt-sponsors-spark-1367970

 

labour MP with a pair of platinum tickets. 

 

what a c*** he sounds, complaining about this deal.

 

aye, spending his wage on something he likes, what a c*** :lol:

 

Ian Lavery's a total joker:

 

 

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Newcastle shied away from revealing the exact figures yesterday, but Llambias confirmed it was the club’s biggest sponsorship deal, and said that quoted figures of £8million per year over four years of the deal were “not far off”.

 

The Journal: http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2012/10/10/61634-32001249/#ixzz28tAAJYp5

 

Why doesn't he just come out with the figures? Ridiculous. It's basically about around 6m a year which will make f*** all difference to our ability to compete with the top 4/5 clubs, regardless of all the spin about competing with them coming from the management inc Pardew and his 'champions league' quotes.

 

Putting the questionable moral debate aside, it's a very poor deal for the image of the club and it's marketability in England and Europe. No other partners are going to be excited about being part of a 'leper' brand franchise. This deal will do short term and long term damage to the club and all for a couple of million more than Virgin were paying. Ashley has proven to be astute when it comes to managing player wages and general cost cutting and with things like that he deserves credit. But for the long term building of the club they remain self-serving, clueless and gutless.

 

Futhermore Newcastle United have a resonsabitlity to the wider community and should in all cases pursue ventures that add value and bring positive impact to the supporter and the public. This deal does neither. Infact this deal is such a bad message to the city it is almost surreal.

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To argue that this deal is self serving etc overlooks completely the argument that the top four clubs have the big bucks sponsorship deals are exclusive to them.  The only way to gain a toe hold into the top four is if you can find a sponsor willing to join forces in trying to gain a mutual foothold in the top four.  If Wonga can help us do that then where is the harm?

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