Trev Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I haven't read the whole thread, so apologies if this has been mentioned, but... If KK was appointed to appease potential Arab buyers then all those reassurances at the time that Ashley wasn't looking for a quick buck but was in it for the long haul were bull! The Arab buyers are just another one of their lies. If it were true and they (the Arab buyers) wanted KK as manager then why the fuck did Ashley and Mort try to lure Harry Redknapp form Portsmouth? It was only when Redknapp knocked us back we went for KK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I haven't read the whole thread, so apologies if this has been mentioned, but... If KK was appointed to appease potential Arab buyers then all those reassurances at the time that Ashley wasn't looking for a quick buck but was in it for the long haul were bull! The Arab buyers are just another one of their lies. If it were true and they (the Arab buyers) wanted KK as manager then why the f*** did Ashley and Mort try to lure Harry Redknapp form Portsmouth? It was only when Redknapp knocked us back we went for KK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 The condoning of the "facts" spouted by this fucktart on these boards is possibly more infuriating than anything this asshole did. It just goes to show why cretinous politicians and public figures retain their powers year after year because it seems if you lie long enough, if you throw enough shit against the wall, some of it is undoubtedly going to stick. Let's break these "facts" down: 1) Keegan. To quote the post in here that started it all, "correct." In what fucking delusional, bizarro-world is his assessment of the situation with Keegan in any way "correct?" DL said "his fucking head was all over the place." Eh? Appointed to appease Arabs? WTF ? Ashley and Co. were found guilty in a court of law by a Judge who made sure to include in the tribunal that they also constantly lied about Keegan's tenure here, and did everything they could to tarnish his reputation. Yet, people are still actually believing a word this fucking neanderthal says. Unbelievable, and a point enough to get one seething on its own. 2) Shearer. Also to quote the poster before, "correct." How on earth was only Shearer responsible for our relegation? How can you pass judgment on his ability to manage a football team EVER? DL and some of the posters on here are so fucking deluded, blindfolded and downright pathetic, that they not only pretend to be future-telling sages on how a human being will pan out as a manager in the future, but actually believe giving someone 8 games to stave of relegation is enough to banish them as human beings to the dustbin "foreva innit, mate." We, as both a team and a club, were absolutely fucked long before Shearer was brought in that season. Not a single fan who has anything but a half-decent memory can argue with that. It was disaster after disaster brought on by Ashley, it was nothing but a sinking ship on which these fuckheads chose to find a lamb to take the blame -- in the form of a former club hero -- and amazingly, it worked! You fuckheads who're blaming only Shearer for our relegation are probably the same wankers who would purchase a bottle of snakeoil and then go and vote for George Bush in the same afternoon. Get your fucking heads checked. Shit. Sticks. To. Walls. 3) Chris Hughton. They're practically gloating about sacking a nice guy. "I don't want a manager under me who can't argue." He needs a cunt like him underneath to deal with his own flapping cunt lips. CH may not have been the right person to "lead us forward," wherever that may be -- I don't credit them 100% for our recent upturn in fortune -- the way they treated him was downright pathetic, embarrassing for the club, and a horrible way to treat a genuinely nice guy and a pretty decent manager and coach. They rattled the ship then once again when things were finally looking stable, and have done so once again this week with the renaming and now this. 4) Andy Carroll. Okay fine, you wankers can have that one, $35M was definitely overpaying for him. Still they lied about the whole "Andy handed in a transfer request, we had no choice, blah blah" and this recent bollocks only pushes that story aside. Absolutely pissed, to be honest, by how easy it is for people to downright lie to the public and how many in the public are willing to be covered in the urine deemed holy water. His final quote is the nail in the coffin, no matter what you believe the facts to be: "You have no idea how fucking horrible we can be." Whether we all agree or not on what has gone on regarding the aforementioned points, that quote alone needs to see him sacked, and sacked soon. That's unforgivable, filled with nothing but venom, and the wanton flaunting of power that only comes from those who think they're untouchable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Llambias is a classless prick, but the running across the pitch naked one proved that already. Recording equipment is everywhere these days, so talking about the club in that manner with students (Students! FFS!!) in a casino is naive and stupid and most important of all, potentially destructive for the club. We all know what the press are like. Maybe he's got no mates he can have private dinner parties with. At one of them he can say what he fucking well likes. This episode simply suggests to me that he's a billy no mates out to impress any sad fucker that will listen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Recording equipment is everywhere these days, so talking about the club in that manner with students (Students! FFS!!) in a casino is naive and stupid and most important of all, potentially destructive for the club. We all know what the press are like. He was in a gastro-pub for goodness sakes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Recording equipment is everywhere these days, so talking about the club in that manner with students (Students! FFS!!) in a casino is naive and stupid and most important of all, potentially destructive for the club. We all know what the press are like. He was in a gastro-pub for goodness sakes! The bastard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Recording equipment is everywhere these days, so talking about the club in that manner with students (Students! FFS!!) in a casino is naive and stupid and most important of all, potentially destructive for the club. We all know what the press are like. He was in a gastro-pub for goodness sakes! The b****** Must say I heard the remark "WTF is a gastro-pub?" a few times yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Colocho Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 The man is a disgrace. This will be brushed under the carpet like everything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 The man is a disgrace. This will be brushed under the carpet like everything else. Howay man, Gastropubs aren't that bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 The man is a disgrace. This will be brushed under the carpet like everything else. Howay man, Gastropubs aren't that bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 as a side though, is it not all bollocks? thinking about it, what is the likelyhood of llambias coming out with all of these convenient soundbites about every manager since keegan in a pub within earshot of someone/a few people who 'just happened to know a reporter from the daily mirror'? By sounds of things it was recorded, the guy who recorded it wasn't sure what to do with it and was advised to give it to the papers and so offered it to the mirror. Can't imagine the Mirror would stick it in the paper as fact and quotes from Derek without being able to back it up otherwise they'd be taken to court. Where was this posted? Would be curious to know who 'advised' him to 'give' it to the papers... Wasn't posted here I don't think. Steve Wraith (I know I know) was asked for advice on what to do with it. He didn't reply to the person in question but appears pleased with there choice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 as a side though, is it not all bollocks? thinking about it, what is the likelyhood of llambias coming out with all of these convenient soundbites about every manager since keegan in a pub within earshot of someone/a few people who 'just happened to know a reporter from the daily mirror'? By sounds of things it was recorded, the guy who recorded it wasn't sure what to do with it and was advised to give it to the papers and so offered it to the mirror. Can't imagine the Mirror would stick it in the paper as fact and quotes from Derek without being able to back it up otherwise they'd be taken to court. Where was this posted? Would be curious to know who 'advised' him to 'give' it to the papers... Wasn't posted here I don't think. Steve Wraith (I know I know) was asked for advice on what to do with it. He didn't reply to the person in question but appears pleased with there choice I'm just really wanting to know where it was posted before news of the story broke this week - surely someone must've mentioned it (even if it was a friend of a friend repeating a rumour). Nowt on TT or TF from what I can see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 as a side though, is it not all bollocks? thinking about it, what is the likelyhood of llambias coming out with all of these convenient soundbites about every manager since keegan in a pub within earshot of someone/a few people who 'just happened to know a reporter from the daily mirror'? By sounds of things it was recorded, the guy who recorded it wasn't sure what to do with it and was advised to give it to the papers and so offered it to the mirror. Can't imagine the Mirror would stick it in the paper as fact and quotes from Derek without being able to back it up otherwise they'd be taken to court. Where was this posted? Would be curious to know who 'advised' him to 'give' it to the papers... Wasn't posted here I don't think. Steve Wraith (I know I know) was asked for advice on what to do with it. He didn't reply to the person in question but appears pleased with there choice I'm just really wanting to know where it was posted before news of the story broke this week - surely someone must've mentioned it (even if it was a friend of a friend repeating a rumour). Nowt on TT or TF from what I can see. I dont think it was. He wasn't sure what to do asked around and sent it to the papers. Noubt to say the person who recorded it was a poster on forums like this or twitter etc so no reason why it had to make it online before the papers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 as a side though, is it not all bollocks? thinking about it, what is the likelyhood of llambias coming out with all of these convenient soundbites about every manager since keegan in a pub within earshot of someone/a few people who 'just happened to know a reporter from the daily mirror'? By sounds of things it was recorded, the guy who recorded it wasn't sure what to do with it and was advised to give it to the papers and so offered it to the mirror. Can't imagine the Mirror would stick it in the paper as fact and quotes from Derek without being able to back it up otherwise they'd be taken to court. Where was this posted? Would be curious to know who 'advised' him to 'give' it to the papers... Wasn't posted here I don't think. Steve Wraith (I know I know) was asked for advice on what to do with it. He didn't reply to the person in question but appears pleased with there choice I'm just really wanting to know where it was posted before news of the story broke this week - surely someone must've mentioned it (even if it was a friend of a friend repeating a rumour). Nowt on TT or TF from what I can see. I dont think it was. He wasn't sure what to do asked around and sent it to the papers. Noubt to say the person who recorded it was a poster on forums like this or twitter etc so no reason why it had to make it online before the papers. I'm sure the person recording isn't/wasn't a forum member, but immediately after the story was printed someone on another forum was claiming it was his friend from uni - just seems odd that no friends of this alleged uni student have commented on it between the spurs game and this week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross magoo Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Fuckin gastro-boozer my hairy beanbag. That's just a pub that sells cheese toasties. Pretentious cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 as a side though, is it not all bollocks? thinking about it, what is the likelyhood of llambias coming out with all of these convenient soundbites about every manager since keegan in a pub within earshot of someone/a few people who 'just happened to know a reporter from the daily mirror'? By sounds of things it was recorded, the guy who recorded it wasn't sure what to do with it and was advised to give it to the papers and so offered it to the mirror. Can't imagine the Mirror would stick it in the paper as fact and quotes from Derek without being able to back it up otherwise they'd be taken to court. Where was this posted? Would be curious to know who 'advised' him to 'give' it to the papers... Wasn't posted here I don't think. Steve Wraith (I know I know) was asked for advice on what to do with it. He didn't reply to the person in question but appears pleased with there choice I'm just really wanting to know where it was posted before news of the story broke this week - surely someone must've mentioned it (even if it was a friend of a friend repeating a rumour). Nowt on TT or TF from what I can see. I dont think it was. He wasn't sure what to do asked around and sent it to the papers. Noubt to say the person who recorded it was a poster on forums like this or twitter etc so no reason why it had to make it online before the papers. I'm sure the person recording isn't/wasn't a forum member, but immediately after the story was printed someone on another forum was claiming it was his friend from uni - just seems odd that no friends of this alleged uni student have commented on it between the spurs game and this week. what you hoping to find stu? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I'm guessing he's hoping it's tabloid trash which would make a nice change rather than the board sticking there foot in it again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 reporting it as fact on the Legends....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thenorthumbrian Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I haven't read the whole thread, so apologies if this has been mentioned, but... If KK was appointed to appease potential Arab buyers then all those reassurances at the time that Ashley wasn't looking for a quick buck but was in it for the long haul were bull! The Arab buyers are just another one of their lies. If it were true and they (the Arab buyers) wanted KK as manager then why the f*** did Ashley and Mort try to lure Harry Redknapp form Portsmouth? It was only when Redknapp knocked us back we went for KK. It almost seems the current owners of Newcastle United are so arrogant they think that they can treat the fans as utter mugs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Love a good gastro pub me like. The quality of the Yorkshire puddings is usually so much more palatable than from your average pub grub boozer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 it's a not a gastropub like. crappy take on a north american sports bar that happens to serve food, but where doesn't these days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I agree with a lot of what you say there, drunken ranting is no way for an employee to go on much less a Managing Director, but on "a point of order" the bit I bolded, he didn't (the "Judge"). The oft quoted statement (5.2 The Club admitted to the Tribunal that it repeatedly and intentionally misled the press, public and the fans of Newcastle United). is from KK's legal team's statement NOT the tribunal itself as it has been portrayed in the press and seems to be believed by many. Fron the Tribunal. 26. The Club’s explanation for these statements, which, on their case, were simply untrue, was that they were nothing more than an exercise in public relations carried out so as not to undermine Mr Keegan’s position and made necessary, in the first place, by statements made by Mr Keegan himself to the press. We found this explanation to be profoundly unsatisfactory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 what you hoping to find stu? That it is in fact possible for the oft-despised MD of Newcastle United to be stood in a fairly public gastropub/casino/bar in the heart of NE1, spouting off an incendiary diatribe against local heroes that are adored and respected throughout the region, like Alan Shearer and Kevin Keegan, not to mention dismissing the character of a man who did so much to rebuild the club's reputation in the 18months following relegation and not have any of it find it's way into local conversation until a national newspaper happens to run it as the Sunday exclusive almost a month later. If this is how it actually happened, then I'm genuinely impressed - this city of ours is never normally known for keeping quiet. [tinhat] Good to see that the supporters are directing their chat towards the owner and his stooge, rather than continuing to get excited at the amazing start we've made to the season. There's no way on earth this has been an orchestrated media ploy by that fucktard DL and MA to draw attention away from the team and let them get on with the job without the headlines. [/tinhat] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I see your Dilema Stu- to believe a lying press or a lying DL MA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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