SEMTEX Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I was more referring to Deuce's original unnecessary bringing up of video replays. But whatever you say, ping pong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Tbf, it's made a non event of a game massively interesting. Prefer this utter farce to a 5 minute commercial break. Video referees ffs, just get refs that aren't braindeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 The linesman and 4th official have been dropped until further notice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I would absolutely love to hear what was said between the officials there like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 When did encroaching during penalties stop being a reason to retake it? Really bugs me how refs never enforce this, this was Burton's penalty against Wolves at the weekend. The keeper saves the penalty and one of the players who has encroached then clears the ball. What is the ref looking at there? What is he doing? That's Keith Stroud as well isn't it? You could tell the ref was going to be annoying last night the way he wanted every throw in to be taken to the exact inch where the ball went out and no leeway. Didn't think he'd be that bad though I thought so too, but having looked it up it's actually some chap called James Adcock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Forgot to mention this earlier, but when the idiot gave the free kick all of the players lined up as if the penalty was about to re-taken. It takes them a good few seconds to realise that the ref is an imbecile at which point the Burton players start sneaking away up the pitch. When the ref was chatting to the 4th official and it became clear that he wasn't going to change his mind Clough was doing all he could to get his keeper to take the free kick as he clearly knew that the ref had dropped a huge bollock and he was worried he'd suddenly remember the correct rule. Twenty Four hours on and I'm still in disbelief. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Forgot to mention this earlier, but when the idiot gave the free kick all of the players lined up as if the penalty was about to re-taken. It takes them a good few seconds to realise that the ref is an imbecile at which point the Burton players start sneaking away up the pitch. When the ref was chatting to the 4th official and it became clear that he wasn't going to change his mind Clough was doing all he could to get his keeper to take the free kick as he clearly knew that the ref had dropped a huge bollock and he was worried he'd suddenly remember the correct rule. Twenty Four hours on and I'm still in disbelief. Aye .com mentioned this too: http://i.imgur.com/i0DRQtj.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Texas Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Penalties are intended to replace the Goal Scoring Opportunity within open play that was denied by the foul/handling etc, so they have a place in the game but I think the process needs to be redefined. The current rules give too much advantage to the shooter (lets play a game of ideas that sound good but a probably crap) First, I would make the Penalty a one shot deal (with no follow up allowed). Resolves all the encroachment issues. Second, I would remove "feinting" during the kick/run-up from the process - you never see a player feint like that in a regular play as the keeper is free to challenge the shot, so why allow it in the penalty when the keepers movement is artificially restricted. Third , I would allow the keeper to move as soon as the player starts his run up (They can always take a smaller runup). And make the penalty shot more like a regular one-on-one play. I'd settle for just removing feinting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Penalties are intended to replace the Goal Scoring Opportunity within open play that was denied by the foul/handling etc, so they have a place in the game but I think the process needs to be redefined. The current rules give too much advantage to the shooter (lets play a game of ideas that sound good but a probably crap) First, I would make the Penalty a one shot deal (with no follow up allowed). Resolves all the encroachment issues. Second, I would remove "feinting" during the kick/run-up from the process - you never see a player feint like that in a regular play as the keeper is free to challenge the shot, so why allow it in the penalty when the keepers movement is artificially restricted. Third , I would allow the keeper to move as soon as the player starts his run up (They can always take a smaller runup). And make the penalty shot more like a regular one-on-one play. I'd settle for just removing feinting No problem with the feint/stutter, it's just like giving the keeper the eyes, body shape etc to sell him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Penalties are intended to replace the Goal Scoring Opportunity within open play that was denied by the foul/handling etc, so they have a place in the game but I think the process needs to be redefined. The current rules give too much advantage to the shooter (lets play a game of ideas that sound good but a probably crap) First, I would make the Penalty a one shot deal (with no follow up allowed). Resolves all the encroachment issues. Second, I would remove "feinting" during the kick/run-up from the process - you never see a player feint like that in a regular play as the keeper is free to challenge the shot, so why allow it in the penalty when the keepers movement is artificially restricted. Third , I would allow the keeper to move as soon as the player starts his run up (They can always take a smaller runup). And make the penalty shot more like a regular one-on-one play. I'd settle for just removing feinting No problem with the feint/stutter, it's just like giving the keeper the eyes, body shape etc to sell him. Beardsley has practically an entire YouTube showreel of feinting keepers and making them look like idiots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Penalties are intended to replace the Goal Scoring Opportunity within open play that was denied by the foul/handling etc, so they have a place in the game but I think the process needs to be redefined. The current rules give too much advantage to the shooter (lets play a game of ideas that sound good but a probably crap) First, I would make the Penalty a one shot deal (with no follow up allowed). Resolves all the encroachment issues. Second, I would remove "feinting" during the kick/run-up from the process - you never see a player feint like that in a regular play as the keeper is free to challenge the shot, so why allow it in the penalty when the keepers movement is artificially restricted. Third , I would allow the keeper to move as soon as the player starts his run up (They can always take a smaller runup). And make the penalty shot more like a regular one-on-one play. I'd settle for just removing feinting No problem with the feint/stutter, it's just like giving the keeper the eyes, body shape etc to sell him. Beardsley has practically an entire YouTube showreel of feinting keepers and making them look like idiots. I seem to remember John Aldridge being one of the first to do the deliberate 'stop' in his run up, just before he took the kick. Not sure if he started doing that after that miss/save in the cup final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Penalties are intended to replace the Goal Scoring Opportunity within open play that was denied by the foul/handling etc, so they have a place in the game but I think the process needs to be redefined. The current rules give too much advantage to the shooter (lets play a game of ideas that sound good but a probably crap) First, I would make the Penalty a one shot deal (with no follow up allowed). Resolves all the encroachment issues. Second, I would remove "feinting" during the kick/run-up from the process - you never see a player feint like that in a regular play as the keeper is free to challenge the shot, so why allow it in the penalty when the keepers movement is artificially restricted. Third , I would allow the keeper to move as soon as the player starts his run up (They can always take a smaller runup). And make the penalty shot more like a regular one-on-one play. I'd settle for just removing feinting No problem with the feint/stutter, it's just like giving the keeper the eyes, body shape etc to sell him. Beardsley has practically an entire YouTube showreel of feinting keepers and making them look like idiots. I seem to remember John Aldridge being one of the first to do the deliberate 'stop' in his run up, just before he took the kick. Not sure if he started doing that after that miss/save in the cup final. He was definitely doing it before then. It started late 70s as i recall but can't remember the first. I do remember it being on On the Ball though, which was ITVs version of Football Focus. I also know that Platini, Boniek and Hugo Sanchez did it regularly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Penalties are intended to replace the Goal Scoring Opportunity within open play that was denied by the foul/handling etc, so they have a place in the game but I think the process needs to be redefined. The current rules give too much advantage to the shooter (lets play a game of ideas that sound good but a probably crap) First, I would make the Penalty a one shot deal (with no follow up allowed). Resolves all the encroachment issues. Second, I would remove "feinting" during the kick/run-up from the process - you never see a player feint like that in a regular play as the keeper is free to challenge the shot, so why allow it in the penalty when the keepers movement is artificially restricted. Third , I would allow the keeper to move as soon as the player starts his run up (They can always take a smaller runup). And make the penalty shot more like a regular one-on-one play. I'd settle for just removing feinting No problem with the feint/stutter, it's just like giving the keeper the eyes, body shape etc to sell him. Penalties are intended to replace the Goal Scoring Opportunity within open play that was denied by the foul/handling etc, so they have a place in the game but I think the process needs to be redefined. The current rules give too much advantage to the shooter (lets play a game of ideas that sound good but a probably crap) First, I would make the Penalty a one shot deal (with no follow up allowed). Resolves all the encroachment issues. Second, I would remove "feinting" during the kick/run-up from the process - you never see a player feint like that in a regular play as the keeper is free to challenge the shot, so why allow it in the penalty when the keepers movement is artificially restricted. Third , I would allow the keeper to move as soon as the player starts his run up (They can always take a smaller runup). And make the penalty shot more like a regular one-on-one play. I'd settle for just removing feinting It's already banned as you take the penalty, only allowed in the run up before you reach the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 anyone got a link to a clip of a pundit saying (roughly quoting from memory here), the referee has got it, 'horribly, terribly awfully, completely, incomprehensibly wrong" i saw it on twitter yesterday but cannot seem to find it anywhere... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 It was Jeff Stelling who said it on SkySports if that helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 It was Jeff Stelling who said it on SkySports if that helps. yes! thank you https://twitter.com/rdjacko007/status/849717279742971904/video/1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 He's been dropped for the game he was meant to be refereeing this weekend Should be sacked, not dropped. Rubbish, hopefully you will make a mistake a work and get sacked them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 He's been dropped for the game he was meant to be refereeing this weekend Should be sacked, not dropped. Rubbish, hopefully you will make a mistake a work and get sacked them That happens for some people at work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I'd agree if his mistake wasn't tantamount to an Air Traffic Controller signalling a commercial jet into a lake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I'd agree if his mistake wasn't tantamount to an Air Traffic Controller signalling a commercial jet into a lake. If you keep making mistakes in any job, you could get sacked. The ref shouldn't be sacked but he should be severely reprimanded for such mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 In all seriousness he should be made to retake whatever test/exam they do before reffing another professional game. All officials involved in that game should. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 In all seriousness he should be made to retake whatever test/exam they do before reffing another professional game. All officials involved in that game should. Why the other officials? Referee ignored the 4th official's advice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Missed that, where was it said? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Missed that, where was it said? Sure I read in that match thread and somewhere else. That was the reason for the 5 minute talk they had, can't see why else they had such a long chat for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Watched the footage of it, ref is clearly some smug, clueless cunt. Looks like the linesman is saying that he knows it should be a retake so Lascelles, Perez and one of our coaches tells him to go and tell the ref. It takes over five and a half minutes from Gayle going down to them being allowed to take the free kick, over four and a half of which is after the penalty has been taken. Even if there were no other stoppages in that half, how in the actual fuck he gives just 3 minutes of stoppage time is almost as bad as the incident itself. Useless prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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